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post Jul 2, 2004 - 7:22 PM
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[QUOTE]Rjb23 Posted on Jul 2, 2004 - 6:36 PM
Hey here is a site that I found that might help out. It is on the st205 gt4 but it has wiring diagrams and a lot more.

http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/Technical.htm[/QUOTE]

defgeph Posted on Jul 1, 2004 - 10:28 PM

QUOTE (lagos @ Jul 1, 2004 - 10:26 PM)
as it stands right now, there is pretty much all the info you need out there on the net do make your own diagrams out of.

the main plug in your 5sfe fuse box is called EA-1. you need to take this plug from your 5sfe harness and splice the 3s harness into it.

on the 3sgte, the fuse box has more then one plug. these are called 2A, 2B, 2C.

seeing as we now know what each of the wires on the EA-1 plug does, we can now refer to http://www.gtfour.ca/ to see what the 3sgte plugs do and make up a chart that tells you how to rewire the fuse box.[/QUOTE]


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Double That Corona!.

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post Jul 2, 2004 - 11:43 PM
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Hopefully by the time I do my swap next summer this will all be well documented thanks to you fellas. Much love and a third corona out to Lagos! smile.gif
post Jul 3, 2004 - 4:54 PM
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Ok so it looks like the fuse box is taken care of but what about the wiring on the inside of the car?
post Jul 3, 2004 - 7:10 PM
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All this info needs to be stickied when it is done being gathered!
post Jul 3, 2004 - 7:32 PM
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The EA-1 fuse box diagrams that I posted are for the 97 GT. there are slight differences between years and models. I have diagrams for all and will eventually be tracing them all and posting the data.


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post Jul 4, 2004 - 11:31 AM
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Where are these EA1 diagrams posted? I would like to see what they say so i can help you guys to avoid bad info. I know the swap wiring pretty good since i did my own with some help from the qatar diagrams but did not go off of them 100%.
I made a better harness that avoids splicing into any major battery wires and alt wires. It is the best possible way to do the swap wireing but it takes a little longer that is the down side.
By the way there is almost no differences in the wireing from the gt to the st so the wire diagrams are about universal for both except for very few small differences.
Since Qatar is not making harnesses anymore and not responding to anyone he actually backed out of the deal i had with him ( for tech support and questions ) i am willing to help out as much as possible.

The only thing i will not do is post his wire diagrams online. That is just not right ...but i will help in any other way i can.

By the way the qatar diagrams are not 100% correct anyway!!!!!
I had to find that out the hard way if you know what i mean. and i know what had to be done to fix all the problems.
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Edit: A simple how to is not going to cut it when it comes to doing the swap wires. You need 100% good info for something like this.

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post Jul 4, 2004 - 11:42 AM
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post Jul 4, 2004 - 11:50 AM
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Also,
I just had to help a "former qatar harness person" with his harness problems cause he tried to contact qatar who made his swap harness. Guess what,,, he got no response.... so when he came here for me to help him figure out the wires...... man you should have seen the mess we had to straighten out. It is just not right what is going on here with all this swap stuff. The way the wires were put together just did not look like it was too safe either.
Everyone just needs to get together and take the time to put out some good info.
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I am going to try to get a meet together somewhere around the pennslyvania and ohio border sometime soon so look for a post in the general discussion area on that.
PS,S
The link still does not work for me????

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post Jul 4, 2004 - 11:55 AM
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DG_Performance,

would you be interested in helping me figure out this wiring so that together we could make a How To on it?

wiring for the swap has been a major gray area for way too long and i believe that it is hurting this community. if you take a look at the honda, nissan, and mitsu community, youll notice that the reason why they are so large is because everyone shares info and helps other out. the more we help one another out, the more turbo celicas will will have out on the road.

i will not ask you for any copywriten info. i just want to know what you have learned, on your own, while doing your wiring.

its time to declare our Independence Day!


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post Jul 4, 2004 - 12:04 PM
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Sounds like a good idea to me,
we should get together sometime and straighten this all out. after your car is done we should meet up (have a celica meet even!) with others from the celica community that want to help and make a great step by step swap how to or something.
I got most of the 3s info we need from the celica books and now that someone posted the ea1 info we should be able to do this!!!

Anyone else that is interested in this info should come to this meet with us and help out in whatever way. Even if you guys have no electrical skills you can order pizza for the rest of us to contribute biggrin.gif
Lets do this,
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post Jul 4, 2004 - 12:20 PM
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hey, i like this thread.. so bump for more wiring info.
post Jul 4, 2004 - 12:54 PM
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this is one small step for man...and one giant leap for the celica! ...lol

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post Jul 4, 2004 - 1:00 PM
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DG_Performance

The link is to info stored on my comp.... if the kids shut it off you get the Red x

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1997 GT


Excel file link

Please keep in mind that the above pinout information is for a 1997 GT. There are slight changes from year to year and between the GT and the ST.



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post Jul 7, 2004 - 9:28 PM
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I looked at that exel file and i dont think that applies to all celicas cause that is not how my ea1 connector is????
any other opinions on this?
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post Jul 8, 2004 - 7:44 PM
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DG, whats not the same about it? i gave it a quick look over and most of the stuff seems right.


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post Jul 11, 2004 - 4:44 PM
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the good thing is that all the colors are right
bad stuff:
#2 wire on EA1 does not go to the efi relay....it is suposed to go to the starter relay
#14 & 15 are supposed to both be alt wires
this is based on what i have seen when i did my swap harness
maybe wires on all celicas are not the same???
the rest seems to be ok but i am not 100% on that


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post Jul 14, 2004 - 9:11 PM
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I am not sure if this is a repost but I came across this website with 3sgte wiring diagrams tonight:

3sgte wiring diagrams


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Apr 27, 2005 - 2:13 PM
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hello there,
i has the st model i was just make is the Gt and the St has the same engine harness wire. Becuz i put a 3sge into my St it has no power and no light and no star... cuz i use my 7afe stock harness to my 3sge motor i try to star but it doesn't respond to has any power.. so what see is anyone over there can help me out... with the no power..
post Apr 27, 2005 - 2:43 PM
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holy blast from the past !

you have to fully rewire you engine bay harness using parts of you ST harness and parts of the 3sge harness. you also need the 3sge ecu. do you have a 3sge harness and ecu?


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post May 5, 2005 - 12:39 PM
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I'm just gonna bump this, cause its got alot of good info in it. I think we should make a sticky with this info in it.

Also, I'm about to do the swap. I'm kindof going after the wiring basically without too much knowhow. I've never swapped before, how long do you guys think it would take a novice like myself to complete this task?


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