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 Mar 6, 2004 - 10:49 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Oct 10, '03 From Wichita, KS Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%)  |
GT4 on Ebay.
Edit: Just cross referenced the vins of that car and truejiggas it's the same one. This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Mar 6, 2004 - 10:58 AM --------------------  Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete... |
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Mar 6, 2004 - 4:20 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I don't get it... did somebody buy his and is selling it again?...
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Mar 6, 2004 - 6:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
probably realized they couldn't legalize it
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Mar 6, 2004 - 6:52 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
...There just has to be a way. I think if I was to attempt it (and if I had more money and didn't already have 2 cars I love I would) I would find a pos celica that was on its last leg and swap the vin numbers. Many people say this is impossible, its not. Its not easy and you have to be very careful to do it all correctly but it can be done. Once you have done this you have to register it in a state with really lenient laws on inspections and the like. One you've registered it and have a title for it, you're home free. Its not 100% legal but it can be done. Getting the car into the US in one piece is the hardest part. Once its cleared the port, you're home free. Someone will do it. Soon.
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Mar 6, 2004 - 7:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well, I do think its possible, but I don't think many people are willing to break the law to do so, but as I am not neccesarily a law abiding citizen, I am confident I could do it, just the way you said spedtoe, I'm just to poor to do it now.
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Mar 6, 2004 - 8:02 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '03 From South Central Los Angeles and Long Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Well I'm not sure but i ryu13x from this site told me that there is a guy here in Los Angeles that has an actual st-205. Whether its legal I DOUBT. But according to him the car pulled up at his toyota dealer with a guy in an AE86. It was RHD and all. He didnt mention anything tho about this site so we wont be hearing from him any time soon. Wait if I'm not mistaken then i think that Ryu got his phone number. Ill check and try to get proof. Even better would be if i can get him to go to the SoCal meet. That way it wont sound like i was backing up my friend. David |
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Mar 7, 2004 - 1:35 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
There was an article in the current issue of HCI about a guy who bought an imported RHD Honda Integra XSi in SoCal, and lives in North Carolina.....He just said that he used a set of dealership plates that were at his disposal, because he either owned or worked at a body shop and had access to them.
I believe that thats what Truejigga had on that GT-4....I know he did, because somebody asked in his first thread why he had Georgia or Florida plates if the car was located in New York. Then he explained that his friend got him dealership tags to make it legal. Now, im not totally sure if anything else would need to be done, but i would think that you could find a way to get it on the street without much trouble if you did the reasearch.  Now if only i had 12 grand at my disposal....dammit. 
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Mar 7, 2004 - 11:05 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
its funny because everyone always talks smack about how they will import a real gt4, but now that there is one here, no one is buying it.
i think that if you buy this car and spend some money to make it lhd, then stick plates/vin form your current celica, then no one would ever clue in that it was an import. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Mar 7, 2004 - 11:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Making is LHD is very hard, and totally not worth it. My boss has a 2000 Austin Mini Cooper (not the BMW mini) that he imported from GB a couple years ago. Its RHD and I've driven it all over with no problems. Its much easier with minis because you just get the vin plates off an older one (in this case a '71) and put them on the new one. The body shells are essentially the same, so it would be difficult to argue that it wasn't really a '71). It might not be totally legal, but you're not gonna go to jail for it. The worst I can see happening is you lose the car, and something really really messed up would have to happen for that to even be a possibility. I really cannot believe that no one has bought this thing yet. I'm seriously considering taking out a loan.
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Mar 7, 2004 - 5:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i would be all over it if i didnt have my car.
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Mar 7, 2004 - 5:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 5, '03 From Grapevine, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you bring it to dallas, prepare to have my come to your house and demand a ride. For four hours. Into the middle of the desert. And you can't ask anything about the shotgun in my hands. Or bring a cellphone. |
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Mar 7, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Yeah....seriously somebody buy the damn thing already. If i wasnt in high school i would be holding down a payment on that thing....I mean its a once in a lifetime opportunity to own one, and im sure it would be totally possible to legalize it with some careful planning. If i had the means whatsoever it would be mine. Twice over now, since its been for sale twice!  Spedtoe, or somebody else worthy of it here...pleeeease buy it!! 
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Mar 8, 2004 - 2:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
i hate to bring this up, but there are PLENTY of people in this country who would like to import tons of different kinds of cars and drive them here, and there are also plenty of people with the money to do it, so if the system is beatable, wouldent you think you'd see, um lets say and EVO 5 or somthing driving around in LA or somthing? If you really could make a car that wasnt sold here legit, dont you think there would be a few rare cars, like skylines, evo's, the lotus elise, a handful of special 911's, and so on running around the country? This is why i dont think you can beat the system and make a GT4 street legal... just my opinion...
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Mar 8, 2004 - 7:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You're right....and wrong. There are businesses that do it, but generally they specialize in certain specific cars. For example Ameritech with the McLaren F1, GT Motorcars and MotoRex woth the Skyline GT-R. If you ever price a car with these guys you'll see that its quite expensive. Its a lot more than the sticker price of the car and shipping it over here. The cars these places bring in are squeaky clean. There is absolutely nothing about them that is not 100% legal. They may go in some roundabout ways to do it, but they're totally legal and could never be challenged or reversed. This is what the people with money and the desire do. If they have these two things, they're not going to screw around. They're going to get the baddest car you can get, which is generally the skyline. I bet you'd be surprised how many are in the us. I've seen 2 with my own eyes, and I don't exactly go looking for them. The GT4 sadly just isn't in quite the same league as the skyline. Anything much past that in price (except things like the mclaren) and you might as well get a porsche turbo or something similar. You get all the performance and looks of the hard to import cars, and its a lot less hassle. This page gives you an idea what it takes to do it yourself (legally): Some information on importing cars (not really GT-R specific) I've talked to people that have done this, not so legally, and they say that as long as you get get the car past the port thats 99% of the battle. Its very very possible (not quite easy, but close) to register it once that is done. I really think this GT4 is already home free if somebody will just cough up the dough and put some time and research into it. You'll likely have to buy a beater 6th gen, steal all its vin plates, and crush it (or turn it into a race car, we have several with no vins). Every single car you mentioned in your post has been imported into the US and is driving around right now. There may not be a lot of them, they may not be totally legal, but they're here. |
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Mar 9, 2004 - 2:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
but thats my point- i know they are here- but they either arent registered for street use, or they are not 100% compliant... when i say legit i mean all checks out, not just taking VINs and swapping them... and the difference with moto ex and the skyline is they paid to do the crash tests and stuff, so that they could import some... that isnt an option for the VAST majority of imports out there... -------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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Mar 9, 2004 - 3:27 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I dont get it guys.... If you want it to be able to drive, then get the damaged Celica GT with clear title, ge the VIN number plate, cut the number from the body of GT, then do the same with GT4, weld the body numbers from GT to GT4, put the GT VIN plate to the GT4, convert it to LHD repaint the engine bay and NO ONE WILL ever KNOW, cuz that car wount be stoled or anything... And to conver the car from RHD to LHD, its not that hard at all, my friend does this all the time, he just buy cars from GB imports them here, converts to LHD and sells them here. And its not that hard if you have parts, and in that case you will have GT standing next to your GT4...... i dont see much problems..... It wount be legal (but who cares, no one will now), and i dont think police in US actually offen checks the VIN number on the body and plates, and do the Cops know how have to look the reall GT or what engine should be itn that car??? Just my .2 cents....
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Mar 9, 2004 - 3:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 2, '03 From midwest Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
hey,
guys let me say for the 100th time .. anyone who buys this car will have to swap vins .. why? well unless you can get Toyota to sign a letter saying it complies with all the DOT and NHTSA regs then you can forget about legally titling using the oem gt4 numbers .. speaking of which there is no US number system on GT4 so you could not use GT4 anyway without a new assigned vin .. the kicker is Toyota will never I SAY NEVER give you the letter so forget about every getting full legal here .. even if you get title in a state with a lack DMV it will still never be fully legal .. i am going to LHD (75% sure) and i will let you assume how i am getting titled.. I can tell you story of a guy who bought a 96 rhd mr2 that was shipped with my GT4 and he was all about going legal well guess what a month later he realizes vins swap is only way to do it .. DMV even told him that a RHD swap does not need dash vin they will just use vin sticker on 1/4 or door and firewall chassis number to verify .. I am not saying do this but a vin swap done in a very proffesional way is not a big deal .. i know hot rods guys have been doing it for years swaping rusty bodies for clean ones.. derek - |
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Mar 9, 2004 - 3:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Whats your point? Your post doesn't make any sense to me.
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Mar 9, 2004 - 7:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 2, '03 From midwest Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
hey,
my POINT is everyone wants to do it full legal way but it will not happen unless MR T helps and they won't ever .. guy even says swap vins which i can't believe he would say that on ebay.. |
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Mar 9, 2004 - 10:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Don't get mad, I was just asking for clarification. I think that if you really read all the posts that has all been said. |
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