 Non-toyota Swaps, What is feasable? |
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 Aug 26, 2004 - 1:56 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
What non-toyota engines would be good swaps that would actually work in a 6gc? Has anyone ever did a non-toyota swap? I wanted to do a search on this so I don't get flamed. I tried a couple of searches but can't really find nothing ( guess I can't find any good phrases for the search ). I'm sure someone has thought of this though. BTW Its not anything I am going to do its just something that came to mind.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:04 AM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Zipstrips was thinking of going with a SR20DE I think. Any non-Toyota swap into a Celica is gonna be pretty tough...I've seen a RB26DETT in a JZA80, and a F20C in an AE86, but they both required quite a bit of custom work.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 10:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From Rhode Island Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
my friend in washington said he saw a honda b20 engine in a celica.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 11:19 AM
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Aug 26, 2004 - 11:39 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 10, '03 From Appleton,WI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've heard of a B18C in a '94 Celica in Milwaukee, WI...
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Aug 26, 2004 - 11:44 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
why?
it's...why if anything other than the 3s, id say the SR20 supposedly its supposed to go in 2 of the motors mounts if not that, then try a DSM (4ag63 or w/e it is) motor...but it'd be cheaper to buy a DSM and go fast. --------------------  |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 12:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 12:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 17, '02 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I always liked the idea of dropping a V8 in a gen 6, just love the V8 engine sound.
It would be some effort but would it be worth it power wise or is it just totally a bad idea?  I know it would be serious work.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 12:33 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I've seen a twin turbo Toyota V8 in a ST185...that was quite the swap.  However, the swap made the car RWD, which wasn't too hard on a AWD ST185 from what I read, but making a USDM Celica RWD would be a lot of work. Edit: You're from the UK. You could find an ST205 and do this I'm sure, but it'd still be a lot of work. 
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 17, '02 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, the ST205 engine would be easy to get hold of. Some might say it would be better to just trade up to a GT4 for the money it would cost to install though. A good GT4 cost around $10,000 - my GT worth about $6,000 trade in.
Plus I'd rather go with the V8 for the rarity value. -------------------- Facelift bumper-foglights-clear indicators, clear side repeaters, 16in O.Z alloys, stainless steel grill. JDM facelift tail lights. clear sidelights. Retro-fit A/C conversion. APEX performance springs. Remus exhaust. K&N performance filter. KYB excel G shocks.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 3:01 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I'm saying though, that if you're going to do the V8, you should use the ST205 chassis to begin with.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 3:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So Tony, are you actually thinking about buying a V8 car? Is so, which one?
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Aug 26, 2004 - 10:09 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
i think i've heard of an s2000 engine in a celica.....personnally i won't mind that engine.....its good for a forced induction setup and can make good power and torque i think i'd be faster than a 3sgte but i could be wrong...although its more expensive way
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Aug 26, 2004 - 10:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Im doing the Geo Metro with a Hemmi Swap
How awesome would that be a car that weighs as much as your toothbrush with a huge motor(Not possible but fun to think of)Although it is a toyota motor, putting in like a V-6 Solara engine Supercharged with like a Toyota Tacoma Tranny would be suffice
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Aug 27, 2004 - 1:05 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 24, '04 From Va Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The best toyota with a foreign motor i've seen was a AE86 with a mazda 3 rotor and rx7 drive line. Thats my dream as soon as i get out of college.
You might be able to squeeze in a VW motor into a celica i've done a few VW swaps and the size of the motors and how they bolt up is quite similar. 170hp(stock) 1.8T or maby even 180hp VR6. Both of which turboed can see 400whp easily. |
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Aug 27, 2004 - 3:36 AM
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high compression motor and forced induction never go along dollar for dollar, a 3sgte would make more hp the s2000 engine should be left NA, its a torqueless wonder, and always will be, boost will make more power and bring on early death. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Aug 27, 2004 - 3:54 AM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Sometimes they do. Lots and lots of people turbocharge their stock AE101 silvertop 4A-GE engines. Most of the time a standalone EMS is used and the AFM is eliminated, but I've seen at least six or seven silvertop 4A-GE engines that are running a turbo setup with a stock ECU, stock AFM, and some sort of piggyback fuel controller. 5-6 PSI is fairly safe on the motor, and because of the high compression, 5-6 PSI amounts to some pretty substantial gains all over the powerband.
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Aug 27, 2004 - 4:28 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
it does work but it doesnt last too long. a lot of the VTEC turbo setups usually last around a year, from what i have heard, depending on driving style. its extra wear, just like running higher boost on a factory turbo car, except that with the higer compression, its the equivalent of a lot more boost(which is why it makes more power per psi) -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Aug 27, 2004 - 4:38 AM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I've heard of people running turbo setups on their stock AE101 silvertop 4A-GEs for years though...usually the reason why the turbo setup doesn't last too long is because people get the boost bug, swap out the stock pistons for 4A-GZE pistons, and then run more pounds of boost.
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Aug 27, 2004 - 8:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
your kidding me right?!? don't force induction a s2000 motor?!?!?!!? were have you been.....almost every person that i've seen with an s2000 around the scene in DC and in magazines do turbos......some i have seen even supercharge..but from what i've heard is that the engine handles force induction like a dream and it was built to hold the stress......not that i'm defending honda's here but that engine is nice in the car maybe not in a celica but if you Force feed it....expect to be GREAT
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