Need Help Quick., OBD2? |
Need Help Quick., OBD2? |
Jun 18, 2005 - 1:38 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 1, '03 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have my celi sitting in my garage with the engine halfway out, i have a 94 ST.. i just bought a 97 ST motor a few days ago and its sitting in my garage waiting to be put in... from what the people told me at the yard where i got the engine from is it would bolt right up and electricals should be fine.. but my friend who is putting in the engine for me was wondering if the 97 ST engines had OBD 2 and if the electricals would hook up right.. or else i could have a problem.. if anyone could help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks Andris |
Jun 18, 2005 - 2:05 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 3, '04 From Yakima, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i know that that 94 and 97 have diff engines i think ecu wise because i know that my friends 97 st wont even let him go beyond redline... really weird.
-------------------- the 1/4 doesnt have patience for a ST.... so we make them ST-T's so atleast we'll sound good going slow.
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Jun 18, 2005 - 2:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 6, '04 From oakdale Mn Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you need to change out the dizzy i believe and something with the timing cover or sumptin.
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Jun 18, 2005 - 5:53 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Yeah you're going to have to decide which ECU to use, if you use the '94 harness and ECU then you should be able to swap just about everything over and that's probably the easiest way. If the sensors give you trouble just swap over the long block (use your intake manifold) and the exhaust manifolds should be the same. Or you can convert it to OBDII but that will be a pain.
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Jun 18, 2005 - 9:45 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 5, '05 From New-Brunswick Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Dr. Tweak
I have to ask, what is the diffrence with the OBD2 car's wiring. What makes it a pain to convert OBD1 to OBD2. Thanks -------------------- ----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------
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Jun 19, 2005 - 8:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Well, with OBD2 you have a plug under the dash, for one thing. Most of it is just involved with the ECU, it wouldn't be hard to convert at all, it would take me a day at most, but if you're not comfortable with wiring then don't try it.
Also the OBD1 makes more power due to a more aggresive tune. -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Jun 19, 2005 - 10:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
if he has the 97 motor goin in he needs a 96+ ecu
cause after 96 the systems changed ecu is different by a good amount obd1 - obd2 = pain in the ass |
Jun 20, 2005 - 8:04 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
dude, all you'll need to change over is your distributor, and MAYBE your egr valve.
i have a 98 5sfe in my 94. that was all we had to change over. thats IF your using your harness and ecu. This post has been edited by presure2: Jun 20, 2005 - 8:04 AM -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jun 22, 2005 - 1:26 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The engines are pretty much the same minus a few electrical components (knock sensor, crank sensor, etc...) You don't need to swap any of that... just swap the bare engine into your exsisting harness/sensors.
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