Found a GT4 Celica, wondering if its worth it, legal issues among other things Options

[Clipsetuner]

So just chilling at the shop BS'n and such and I ask a guy who imports car's what he could do for me sense he got another guy a I believe its a 92 Alltrac JDM for 3,700. So he did a little reasearch and got back to me its a 1995 Celica GT4 Red with approx 60-65k for 5k shipped to Vancouver, BC. Allright good deal well yeah smoking deal but there are more issues, legal ones... of course, so we were all talking about it and duh I can just rally it across the border no probem and I can either get a truck or just have a escourt back to oregon.

Looking at my options from this point is harder, found what ive found out is I can either get a donor celi and make it look like ive chopped and peiced them back together with the different front ends, but in the end I would loose a celi via no title, or I can get a "speical" insurence for show events and things but that limits my driving alot and if I were to get pulled over I would have to have proof basicly everytime I drive of a showed I attended or am going to.

Then also thinking about the 3rd Gen 3sgte and gettin parts for it, and then the AWD system as well and complatiably with the 5th gen's? the NW has I think approx 70% of the alltrac population because here they were sold as more of a saftey feature in rain and snow. So parts is another issue.

Then I would also want to modd it and what mods can be done to a GT4 without drive terrain problems?

Or this get it and sell it to one of you lucky few?

Thoughts?

DTE

[shin]

is the GT4 LHD or RHD?

[Clipsetuner]

RHD, its from Japan well coming from.

DTE

[shin]

well.. that's another problem then. i thought if it's LHD, ya just have to stick the registration and stuff on it. paint it the same color your current celi's registered as, and change the tach if it says km/h to mph and you should be set lol..

[Clipsetuner]

thats why the long post....

DTE

[shin]

right.. well... my friend who's in wyotech told me he had a classmate who drives a 6gc and he have a 3sgte and successfully swapped it to a AWD drivetrain. don't take my word for it though. cause i dunno that guy and since my friend's gonna introduce him to me, i'll be taking pics if it's really is.

[Clipsetuner]

well thats where I am currently at, I have a 3sgte and all the swap crap but I could get this instead... or get the vert I want, or get the GT4 and just garage it for the time being... still really up in the air.

DTE

This post has been edited by Clipsetuner: Jun 23, 2005 - 10:50 AM

[Andy B]

Shin : There was a guy from spain who recently did this swap. (on the GT-Four Owners Club) I'll tell you something, this was a huge job. In order to make it all fit in, the entire floorpan had to be replaced with the GT4 one. Not forgetting the strength issues here that have to be maintained.

The car he was converting was a 94 ST202, so it's going to be the same job for you if you go down that route. Took the guy 3 months of constant work to do it, AND he's a pro at bodywork !

To be honest, unless your in for a massive conversion, i'd just throw in a 3sgte, with the MR2 box and go for it.....

Just my 2p's worth.

Andy.....

[Clipsetuner]

Well Ive allready got a 94 MR2 Turbo Engine, a 2000 Solara tranny and most of the crap I need for the swap in my 94 Fast Back, but this for the whole car is coming in cheap then my entire swap. I wouldent do any swapping of anykind expect for VINs I am talking about making this car legal not chopping it up.

DTE

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Well, if you want it bad enough I'm sure you could make it happen. However, also realize that you could easily make the money back by selling it chopped (bumper, hood, front clip, interior, etc)....

But that would just be wrong to do to a perfectly good GT4. I would say that if you're serious enough about it, then give it a try.

[mark_426]

Eh, it can't be that much... consult the DMV and ask about importing vehicles and so forth... see what it would take, legally.

Personally, I'd be all over it - you have a real GT4, not a swap, so you dont have the reliablity issues.

[BlackCelicaGT94]

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FOUND THAT HERE

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/vehicle/troocountry.shtml

This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Jun 23, 2005 - 3:45 PM

[BlackCelicaGT94]

If it will be registered in Canada then brought down to Oregon then heres that link

http://www.odot.state.or.us/forms/dmv/6603b.pdf