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post Jul 26, 2005 - 8:00 AM
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I just thought I'd do a 5S-FE search on Ebay and look what I came up with!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...sspagename=WDVW

"This gasket was engineered to reduce the heat transfer between the Head and the intake manifold. The result is much cooler/denser intake charge, higher horsepower and greater reliability. You can expect as much as a 5% increase in horsepower with the use of this gasket."

Knowing what I do I can safely say there is absolutely NO WAY that will EVER hold up to the claim. Compressed thickness on that gasket is probably about .040" and that will have NO effect on air at all.

There's a sucker born every minute, don't be one of them.


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post Jul 26, 2005 - 4:03 PM
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Actually, they do something. If you decided to heat up your intake manifold, it will reduce the amount of power it produces, because you are now getting hot air, which isn't dense as colder air. I don't think it will be worth the whole $50 or so they want for it though. Unless you really want that extra 1HP.
post Jul 26, 2005 - 5:01 PM
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actually these are dyno proven to work, there used among the sr20 crowd, mx6 mazda guys and of course the honda guys too. id post the real company that makes these but i cant remember it
post Jul 26, 2005 - 6:48 PM
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they work. my buddies turbo rsx-s has one he said he noticed a difference. and u can touch the manifold and its pretty chill.


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post Jul 26, 2005 - 6:53 PM
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Not to be a prick or anything, but I don't believe it. It may help hold back heat transfer from the head to the manifold, but I highly doubt enough to actually give a performance gain. Show me proof and I'll believe it. "My buddy said" and "the manifold was pretty chill" don't count, sorry. tongue.gif


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post Jul 26, 2005 - 7:47 PM
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if something like that worked... toyota would do it at the factory, just to be able to claim more power on the sale sticker and sell more cars.

its a lot of trouble to even install it.... probably would have to pull the motor out cause there is little room in the bay to work in


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" The spaceage material used in the gasket can easily handle the extreme heat output of a high performance engine. The gasket also seals on imperfect surfaces, and can be used over and over again. NASA uses this same material in multi-million dollar machinery. . "

anytime they say "spaceage" you KNOW its a scam! and saying nasa uses it? what? metal ? lol

This post has been edited by lagos: Jul 26, 2005 - 7:50 PM


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post Jul 26, 2005 - 9:56 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 26, 2005 - 7:47 PM)
if something like that worked... toyota would do it at the factory, just to be able to claim more power on the sale sticker and sell more cars.

its a lot of trouble to even install it.... probably would have to pull the motor out cause there is little room in the bay to work in


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" The spaceage material used in the gasket can easily handle the extreme heat output of a high performance engine. The gasket also seals on imperfect surfaces, and can be used over and over again. NASA uses this same material in multi-million dollar machinery. . "

anytime they say "spaceage" you KNOW its a scam!    and saying nasa uses it? what? metal ? lol
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i completely aggree witth you on that....thats exactly why our engines do not have much aftermarket
post Jul 26, 2005 - 9:58 PM
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http://www.sr20forum.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=spacer

http://www.digitaltrading.co.uk/sr20ve/thermoblok.htm

http://www.outlawengineering.com/index.html

need more links to read up on?
post Jul 26, 2005 - 10:34 PM
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iunno about that nasa crap statement
but i can believe toyota would not use it stock if the material cost would be more, and the gain was in-significant.



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post Jul 26, 2005 - 10:47 PM
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They are also a popular modification amongst the 3000GT VR-4 enthusiasts. With so much heat being created under the hood, the spacer has been proven to prevent heat transfer from the head to the intake manifold and reduce intake charges by something like 90 degrees according to the manufacturer that makes them for the Stealth/VR-4.

I guess it would be worth it if you were turbocharging and heat soak was a real problem. After all, whats the point in spending lots of money on a FMIC setup when your intake manifold could just negate the benefits produced?


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post Jul 27, 2005 - 10:43 AM
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at the rate air flows i doubt it's that big a deal if the manifold is a bit hotter, but 90degrees...wtf
that would eather be ice, or mean the manifold is as hot as the turbo manifold tongue.gif(kidding)


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post Jul 27, 2005 - 11:56 AM
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I think that either way, on our specific cars, especially a fully stock 5s-fe, there are not going to be many benefits compared to guys with sr20's, VR4's, and all that kinda stuff. If you're running a highly turbo'd 5s-fe then maybe, but still it's not going to be much of a stock gain.


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post Jul 27, 2005 - 7:33 PM
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I can not attest to these on an actual dyno, however, I had a hondata intake manifold gasket on my gsr along with the typical IHE and a flywheel/clutch. When i installed the gasket I gained ~1 mph doing my typical test getting onto the highway. I had repeated this many times before and after the gasket with the same results.

BTW I have since sold my gsr and I am comming back to a 6gc. I am looking for a celica and cant wait as Im driving my jeep daily right now which is killing me on gas

Steve

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