UK VAT tax, UK people help with refund issue Options

[jgreening]

The sideskirt group buy is purchasing skirts from a UK supplier which will be picked up in the UK. I have been told that we will be charged a 17.5% VAT tax. I have also been told that this amount is refundable once the skirts leave the country. Apparently there is some VAT form that we need. Can someone let me know how to get this form. Thanks.

[WannabeGT4]

Maybe one of these forms...
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalW...l=pageVAT_Forms

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Sep 26, 2005 - 3:31 PM

[jgreening]

Thanks for the link Wannabe....now I just have to figure out which form to use....

[WannabeGT4]

Honestly, I don't think it's in that link... I posted it before I got to look through it. I believe you need VAT form 407 or 435... but I had no luck finding them.

[WannabeGT4]

These links seem to indicate that the refund form can be obtained from the retailer:

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalW...=HMCE_CL_001212
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalW...tyType=document
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalW...=HMCE_CL_000141

EDIT:This link says that the forms can ONLY be obtained from a retailer:
http://www2.swan.ac.uk/docs/departure_handbook.pdf

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Sep 26, 2005 - 3:31 PM

[jgreening]

Good stuff. You sure you don't want to get in on this group buy?

This post has been edited by jgreening: Sep 26, 2005 - 5:10 PM

[WannabeGT4]

Good stuff.  You sure you don't want to get in on this group buy? 
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LOL, I wish it were a matter of what I want. Right now it's all about what I need. Maybe sometime during production if I end up with enough money you and Romas could be nice enough to let me jump in on the deal.

[Insanity-74]

If your buying from outside the UK, you shouldnt be charged VAT to start with.

[jgreening]

If your buying from outside the UK, you shouldnt be charged VAT to start with.
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They are being picked up in the UK and transported across the border (by the buyer) to Lithuania.

[richgt4]

I should know this, but I think number 4 should clear it up for you?

I'll ask on Wednesday for you.


Goods not covered by the scheme
The scheme does not include:

1) new or used motor vehicles
2) a boat that you intend sail to a destination outside the EC
3) goods costing over £600 in value exported for business purposes
4) goods to be exported as freight
apart from antiques, goods needing an export licence
5) unmounted gemstones
6) bullion weighing over 125g or
7) mail order goods.

Rich

[richgt4]

You should be able to reclaim your VAT when the goods leave the EC (i.e Lithuania). But as I said I'll find out for you on Wednesday.

Rich

[jgreening]

Thanks Rich. My understanding is that form 407 must be filled out by the vendor and that only the vendor can get the form. My further understanding is that once the goods leave the EC, the customs agent marks the form and then I can send the marked form to the vendor for the refund. Please confirm that this is your understanding.

[richgt4]

Thanks Rich.  My understanding is that form 407 must be filled out by the vendor and that only the vendor can get the form.  My further understanding is that once the goods leave the EC, the customs agent marks the form and then I can send the marked form to the vendor for the refund.  Please confirm that this is your understanding.
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Correct, the 407 form must be filled out & can only be completed & by the Vendor/shop owner. Once the goods are leaving the EC Customs stamp the 407 & you send the form back to the vendor.

REMEMBER: You can only get your VAT refund if the vendor is part of the VAT back scheme. If he's not, then tough ****e

Who's picking them up for you? I ask this as it may get complicated seeing as though you're not there with the goods. But as I said I'll check tomorrow for you.

Rich

[jgreening]

Thanks Rich.  My understanding is that form 407 must be filled out by the vendor and that only the vendor can get the form.  My further understanding is that once the goods leave the EC, the customs agent marks the form and then I can send the marked form to the vendor for the refund.  Please confirm that this is your understanding.
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Correct, the 407 form must be filled out & can only be completed & by the Vendor/shop owner. Once the goods are leaving the EC Customs stamp the 407 & you send the form back to the vendor.

REMEMBER: You can only get your VAT refund if the vendor is part of the VAT back scheme. If he's not, then tough ****e

Who's picking them up for you? I ask this as it may get complicated seeing as though you're not there with the goods. But as I said I'll check tomorrow for you.

Rich
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Hmmm....I wonder if he is part of the scheme. One of Romas' friends is picking up the parts and then they will be shipped out from Lithuania.

[richgt4]

No I'm not part of the scheme LOL. I work for the border controlls in the UK.

I was really busy at work today & didnt get a chance to ask for you, so I promise I'll do it tomorrow for you.

Cheers,

Rich

[jgreening]

No I'm not part of the scheme LOL. I work for the border controlls in the UK.

I was really busy at work today & didnt get a chance to ask for you, so I promise I'll do it tomorrow for you.

Cheers,

Rich
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When I said "he" I was referring to the vendor, not you mate....ha ha. I appreciate your help.

[richgt4]

DOH!!! lol

[richgt4]

Right, ok, here we go. I'll try & make this as easy as poss.

You won't be able to use the VAT form 407 as this is for PERSONAL exports only. For example; If you were on holiday/vacation in the E.C & you had the goods with you when you go back home to the States, then you can use the VAT 407 form.

What you need to do is call the vendor/seller & ask them if they have a form which is called a C88. If they don't have the form or don't know what youre talking about, then you'll probably have problems getting the tax back on them

This C88 form is for goods which are being shipped out as freight & need to be zero rated (Tax free) when they leave the EC. The goods are leaving from Lithaunia right?

If you PM me I can give you the direct number to call at the airport & I'm sure the Officers who deal with these forms on a daily basis will be more help than I have LOL

Hope I've been usefull

Cheers,

Rich

[jgreening]

Right, ok, here we go. I'll try & make this as easy as poss.

You won't be able to use the VAT form 407 as this is for PERSONAL exports only. For example; If you were on holiday/vacation in the E.C & you had the goods with you when you go back home to the States, then you can use the VAT 407 form.

What you need to do is call the vendor/seller & ask them if they have a form which is called a C88. If they don't have the form or don't know what youre talking about, then you'll probably have problems getting the tax back on them

This C88 form is for goods which are being shipped out as freight & need to be zero rated (Tax free) when they leave the EC. The goods are leaving from Lithaunia right?

If you PM me I can give you the direct number to call at the airport & I'm sure the Officers who deal with these forms on a daily basis will be more help than I have LOL

Hope I've been usefull

Cheers,

Rich
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Thanks Rich. Does the C88 form work the same way? Is it filled in by the vendor? Once its filled in, then what happens? I know under the 407, the form gets stamped by customs and then is returned to the vendor for the refund. If the goods are shipped by airmail out of Lithuania, how can the sender get the form stamped? I assume the box will already be sealed when it is taken for shipment. I really appreciate your help.

- Jay

[richgt4]

Right, ok, here we go. I'll try & make this as easy as poss.

You won't be able to use the VAT form 407 as this is for PERSONAL exports only. For example; If you were on holiday/vacation in the E.C & you had the goods with you when you go back home to the States, then you can use the VAT 407 form.

What you need to do is call the vendor/seller & ask them if they have a form which is called a C88. If they don't have the form or don't know what youre talking about, then you'll probably have problems getting the tax back on them

This C88 form is for goods which are being shipped out as freight & need to be zero rated (Tax free) when they leave the EC. The goods are leaving from Lithaunia right?

If you PM me I can give you the direct number to call at the airport & I'm sure the Officers who deal with these forms on a daily basis will be more help than I have LOL

Hope I've been usefull

Cheers,

Rich
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Thanks Rich. Does the C88 form work the same way? Is it filled in by the vendor? Once its filled in, then what happens? I know under the 407, the form gets stamped by customs and then is returned to the vendor for the refund. If the goods are shipped by airmail out of Lithuania, how can the sender get the form stamped? I assume the box will already be sealed when it is taken for shipment. I really appreciate your help.

- Jay
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Hi Jay,
I think the best thing to do is to call Customs at Gatwick & explain what you intend on doing to the Officer you speak to. I know it's an international call, but it'll sort everything out so you know exactly what to do. I'll pm you the direct number. The best time to call is anytime between 07:00 & 22:00 UK time.

Cheers,

Rich