7age, get ready Options

[yungazzdriver]

well its been a while but after selling the turbo set up well i bought a 4age head from mr2oc and well its nice i have a bunch of friends that work on 4ag's big time from a corolla club called nasty toys and well i got some parts and get ready for a HYBRID 7age just like nik but i might go for all motor instead i mean ive seen two 7age's and well i love the numbers. the 7age is claimed by these two peoples is to be 175 hp stock with piggyback adjustment at 7500 rpm's and i gotta say i love it!
so i am polishing up the cam covers right now and need a complete list of what ima need (i got the fx16 intake manifold and the head; cams, gears, valvetrain and new valveseals) and am working on the porshe 944/924 belt so what else?

[FallenHero]

new pistons, and new rods would be nice.

A complete bottom end re-build. Complete top end re-build. Countless random gaskets. A head gasket conducive to your set-up, the water outlet from a 4ag (connecting to the head that is), adjustable cam gears would make life easier, but are not supremely important, 4ag crank sprocket, ECU for your project or some other plans,,, probably more to come later.

[yungazzdriver]

new pistons, and new rods would be nice.

A complete bottom end re-build.  Complete top end re-build.  Countless random gaskets.  A head gasket conducive to your set-up, the water outlet from a 4ag (connecting to the head that is), adjustable cam gears would make life easier, but are not supremely important, 4ag crank sprocket, ECU for your project or some other plans,,, probably more to come later.
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i am gettin the 4ag engine harness and well i really dont want to yank the old harness out do you think it'd be easy to splice mine or just change the engine harness?

[Kwanza26]

i am gettin the 4ag engine harness and well i really dont want to yank the old harness out do you think it'd be easy to splice mine or just change the engine harness?
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Regardless... you're gonna have to do a bit of wiring so you can modify either or (7AFE engine harness or 4AGE engine harness). Modifying the 4AGE harness would be easier... since you'd only be meshing it with the Celica interior/dash harness.

[FallenHero]

Empty your message box kwanza

This post has been edited by FallenHero: Oct 9, 2005 - 11:00 PM

[Kwanza26]

Empty your message box kwanza
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emptied

I'm also on AIM... so if you need something hit me up. I'll be on tonight for a while...

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Oct 9, 2005 - 11:06 PM

[nik]

have any pics

[yungazzdriver]

have any pics
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yes ill take pics and post!!!
yo you guyz gotta check this out!7age in corolla

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Oct 11, 2005 - 4:29 PM

[FallenHero]

have any pics
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yes ill take pics and post!!!
yo you guyz gotta check this out!7age in corolla
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Yea, he was on club 4ag recently babbling about his 160+whp stockbottomed 7age...

don't believe this guy. On a stock bottom end he woudl have a compression ration of about 8:1, thus his whp would be closer to 60 than 160. Without pistons from a 4age, the 4age head is slush when dealing with a 7afe.

[yungazzdriver]

damn how i would love to get that much though
well ima put 4age pistons

[FallenHero]

just hang tight on that note. Once I have my pistons installed I'll post up with the compression. I could Probably figure it out without installing them, but that's too much work. Anyway, it'd mean that you coudl get 2zzge pistons with round about 12.5:1 compression. If that's too much for you you can augment it with a headgasket.

[yungazzdriver]

just hang tight on that note.  Once I have my pistons installed I'll post up with the compression.  I could Probably figure it out without installing them, but that's too much work.  Anyway, it'd mean that you coudl get 2zzge pistons with round about 12.5:1 compression.  If that's too much for you you can augment it with a headgasket.
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so what you're saying is that i could use the 7afe pistons? with 2zzge rods?

[FallenHero]

although that is possible, I am saying that -I- am going to use 2zz Pistons and 7a rods. If those 2zz pistons were even close, yea I'd use them. However, I have to have everything at the machine shop before I make any comments.

[nik]

FALLEN hows your project coming?

with my rods and piston im guessing im around 8.3:1 comp or a little higher

[FallenHero]

FALLEN hows your project coming?

with my rods and piston im guessing im around 8.3:1 comp or a little higher
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which, just to clarify things, is good because nik has very Strong pistons and rods (as compared to the supremely weak 7afe pistons and rods) and nik is going to turbocharge. So, that low compression will lessen the detination at high boost numbers.

I, however, am going to run the car NA and have a very high compression. I won't have near the power, but that was never my intention. I want a daily driver that will last a while and still be able to outrun most comparable imports and domestics. I expect I will have between 130 and 150 whp. However, I recently read about a 4ag that was running 12:1 compression with TRD cams making 180+NA whp.... which is amazing. So, you never know what you are going to get until the car is straped to a dyno.

[nik]

FALLEN hows your project coming?

with my rods and piston im guessing im around 8.3:1 comp or a little higher
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which, just to clarify things, is good because nik has very Strong pistons and rods (as compared to the supremely weak 7afe pistons and rods) and nik is going to turbocharge. So, that low compression will lessen the detination at high boost numbers.

I, however, am going to run the car NA and have a very high compression. I won't have near the power, but that was never my intention. I want a daily driver that will last a while and still be able to outrun most comparable imports and domestics. I expect I will have between 130 and 150 whp. However, I recently read about a 4ag that was running 12:1 compression with TRD cams making 180+NA whp.... which is amazing. So, you never know what you are going to get until the car is straped to a dyno.
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thanks for clarifing i forget not everyone knows about my project.

Once i get a rwd corolla 84-87 i'm going to go the n/a route on it .

now 12:1 at the comp level dont you need something a little better than 91-93 octane fuel or thats the line right there?

Fallen now your going big port with ITB's and 12:1 comp what are you doing for cams 256..... 272 ? are you doing any head work? you should start a post about your project and throw in those pics that are scattered every where

[FallenHero]

naa, I am using a small port head. The small port makes more power below say... 200whp than a large port strictly because the intake charge is generally going to be higher velocity through the smaller ports.

Oh, and I am a retard. I'm looking at 11.5:1 compression, not 12.5:1

[nik]

naa, I am using a small port head.  The small port makes more power below say... 200whp than a large port strictly because the intake charge is generally going to be higher velocity through the smaller ports.

Oh, and I am a retard.  I'm looking at 11.5:1 compression, not 12.5:1


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yeah thats why i went bigport to get as much flow as possible but i went small port intake for low end but i'll end up getting one custom made in a few months

[yungazzdriver]

man fallens project is coming out niice man i really would like to got the same hp as fallen is speaking about aroung 160 and i am happy as hell i want some 256 cams by crower and the valve train either toda or formula atlantic valves with trd springs and retainers if i can find some the hks cam gears man ported and polished head for street/strip damn ima take a while though cuz im not as rich as most people but every cent goes to the project so ill be there one day and i am getting forged 4age pistons i forgot that!

[nik]

man fallens project is coming out niice man i really would like to got the same hp as fallen is speaking about aroung 160 and i am happy as hell i want some 256 cams by crower and the valve train either toda or formula atlantic valves with trd springs and retainers if i can find some the hks cam gears man ported and polished head for street/strip damn ima take a while though cuz im not as rich as most people but every cent goes to the project so ill be there one day and i am getting forged 4age pistons i forgot that!
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rich it took me about 4 month for just the motor work i just saved up + tax return etc I started buying parts for my project last year one part at a time then sold my old turbo kit and bought more parts then found a block bought that go check out my diary its a few months long