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WHICH would you do?
and why would you do it? would you a) build and turbo a 7afe from the internals on up or b) swap in a 4age black top 6spd factory lsd |
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7afe turbo will make more power. 4ag will be the better trackish engine but will have less torque and right foot 'smile' value.... but you would have a 4ag.
depends on what you want out of the car. |
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the answer is b.
i just like screamers not much a fan of turbos...well since you're getting a black top might as well get 2 cuz i want one too! |
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I personally would prefer the performance engine, 4AGE, so that I could track the car and run it hard....day in and day out, everyday. Definately the better choice in my opinion, but if youre a turbo lover which i know you are dan...lol...then the choice is up to you.
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BOTH
![]() 7AGTE WITH A BLACK TOP HEAD ![]() -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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im in the same dilemma as you. ive considered a lot of options, including 4agze and 3sgte as well, and im almost positive im going to go with 7afte. it depends on what your after, i personally dont care for it to be that fast, and im going to be mostly street driving, so i want the low end torque. plus itd be easier for me to install myself. my engine also only has 44k on it should be in good condition for a boost setup. if i had a higher mileage engine i might lean towards swap. another reason for 7afte is that i decided itd be nice to keep the auto, and after watching oobe's car thats plenty fast for me. im also a sucker for new parts, im weird but id rather pay more for new stuff rather than used. doggy's and nik's results also leaned me towards 7afte. whatever you decide on, its definately better than stock
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QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Oct 27, 2005 - 6:30 PM) I personally would prefer the performance engine, 4AGE, so that I could track the car and run it hard....day in and day out, everyday. Definately the better choice in my opinion, but if youre a turbo lover which i know you are dan...lol...then the choice is up to you. [right][snapback]349782[/snapback][/right] indeed i am a boost addict (my jetta is already up to 15psi ![]() but 3sgte is blah too many peeps have 7agte nik you the man there coomer has a silver top and someone has a 4agze i could on paper build a 7afte to a point of over 225whp practically i'd like to it would be a rare piece the 4age black top not been done very rare and i would like something the rest of everyone else does not have |
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Black top. Definitely. I would think there would be less matainence issues with it as well, but to get parts for repair and such would be mighty expensive. I see +'s and -'s with each engine, but in the end, I'd go with the Black top. Good luck Dan.
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well i'm by no means saying i'm doing this its a yander thought...right now i'm fixing my mistake of body work and doing the body back right....
maybe one day in the next couple years we shall see |
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Shoulda went with the Siliva lights like I first photoshopped for ya
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Just so you know, the black top has been swapped into a sixth gen.
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I would go with the blacktop and you could turbo it later on, cause its not running on an annoying AFM sensor, but then again the internals aren't that great as the Silvertop's. If you just wanted a cheap way of getting power by all means just get the turbo. You would spend just about the same amount of money either way.
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They both cost a similar amount, so here's a good way to decide:
If you're going to be happy with around 180hp, go with the turbo. If you're going to be happy with around 170hp but you want more than 200 down the road sometime, get the blacktop, because it can be upgraded more. But both are quite inferior to the 3SGTE. -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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