pan-european celica meet on parma/north italy, 25-26 Aug 2007 Options

[recycle]

i just got an idea...

celica club cyprus (at least some of us) travelling to europe.

this is about for next summer just writting this about what other european celica owners think.

can a pan-european meeting be possible?

i was thinking about rome but nothing is for sure now

what u guys think?

EDIT:

meeting will take place in imola track, san marino on 25 of august 2007, saturday.

its the place in so from egland, sweden need 2 days drive and from cyprus 3:P from other places in europe its just 1 day:)

details for meeting are coming soon:)

edit 2:
30 aug 2006
if u see the ideas and the "fighting" below i still beleive we need to do a celica meeting. we are all proud celica owners, and i think we all have the write to be on this meeting. i think u all like our meetings in cyprus, 100-130 celicas going somewhere all together and having fun. this was the first idea. a first to last generation celica meeting.

This post has been edited by recycle: Aug 30, 2006 - 11:46 AM

[recycle]

no i am not drunk

[celicume]

i just got an idea...

celica club cyprus (at least some of us) travelling to europe.

this is about for next summer just writting this about what other european celica owners think.

can a pan-european meeting be possible?

i was thinking about rome but nothing is for sure now

what u guys think?

[gt4uk]

yup from me, give us a place of meeting...how abut nurburgring?

[Magic]

[Aus]

Im up for that

[gt4uk]

we need to get somethng going then...

anyone suggest some places?

Nurburgring - Germany
France
Italy

[vsideboy]

hmm, could be fun if we can get a convoy from the UK

[recycle]

here are the about distances to imola from the corners of europe

1450km from london
2700km from moscow
1900km from lithuania
3000km from cyprus
2500km from stockholm
2300km from lisbon

nothing tooo extreme:)

[malpaso]

Imola, hmm... that's 670km from Prague... I like that

here are the about distances to imola from the corners of europe

1450km from london
2700km from moscow
1900km from lithuania
3000km from cyprus
2500km from stockholm
2300km from lisbon

nothing tooo extreme:)

[Wolf_tm]

Imola, hmm... that's 670km from Prague... I like that

here are the about distances to imola from the corners of europe

1450km from london
2700km from moscow
1900km from lithuania
3000km from cyprus
2500km from stockholm
2300km from lisbon

AS I already wrote in another thread in Meeting section,

Northern Italy would be quite central for an European meet...

The next 28/29 October the Celica T20 Italy club is going to make its autumnal meeting in Parma, only 130 km west from Imola.

So the new distances would be:

600 from Prague ( via Innsbruck )
1830 from Lithuania
2630 from Moscow
1320 from London
2430 from Stockholm
2170 from Lisbon

and 3130 from Cyprus ... but you from Cyprus are going to make many kms on the boat....

[recycle]

and 3130 from Cyprus ... but you from Cyprus are going to make many kms on the boat....

ships from cyprus to greece or italy are pain i a$$. we will drive trhu turkey then to greece and then by boat to bari/italy:P its still a lot of driving

the cost from cyprus is the highest i beleive from whole europe but personally i really want to be there:)

[Wolf_tm]

and 3130 from Cyprus ... but you from Cyprus are going to make many kms on the boat....

ships from cyprus to greece or italy are pain i a$$. we will drive trhu turkey then to greece and then by boat to bari/italy:P its still a lot of driving

the cost from cyprus is the highest i beleive from whole europe but personally i really want to be there:)

Really ??

I didn't thought was so expensive from Cyprus to Greece... how much should be ?

You have even to count the fuel you'll have to buy if you make all the Turkey and Greece, and the boat from Cyprus to Turkey !

And to arrive in Italy, should be better a boat to Ancona...

[recycle]

i just found out about ancona..

shipping usually is not on a ferryboat, ferry could be once a month mailny for trucks. usually shipping of cars is with commercial ships and costs more than 500E (one way) and takes 4-5 days + customs + clearing and u can not travel with the boat so u need also a plane ticket.

even if it costs less than than the fuel (and 2 oil changes, one on the going and one on the coming back) i prefer the driving

there is nothing like crousing with a celica at 80-100 kph in roads u never been before. i am not planning to race to come to italy. it going to be a vacation never to be forgotten.

[Wolf_tm]

i just found out about ancona..

shipping usually is not on a ferryboat, ferry could be once a month mailny for trucks. usually shipping of cars is with commercial ships and costs more than 500E (one way) and takes 4-5 days + customs + clearing and u can not travel with the boat so u need also a plane ticket.

You're talking about the boat from Cyprus to Greece, aren't you ?

The one from Greece to Ancona is a ferryboat so you travel with your car.

We have a Greek member ( female ) in our club, she lives in Milan, but she is from Salonicco...
she'll go back in Greece tomorrow for vacation, and she will take the boat in Ancona...

We could ask her about the costs, and even about the roads in Greece, given that Salonicco is quite near Turkey.

there is nothing like crousing with a celica at 80-100 kph in roads u never been before. i am not planning to race to come to italy. it going to be a vacation never to be forgotten.

Obviously !

This post has been edited by Wolf_tm: Aug 5, 2006 - 12:50 PM

[recycle]

yes cyprus to greece... from greece i can take the ferry from patra or igoumenitsa. can u please ask her about the prices from ancona to igoumenitsa (probably she is going to igoumenitsa if she is from sallonica) about celica shipping + 2 people?

This post has been edited by recycle: Aug 5, 2006 - 2:29 PM

[recycle]

[Wolf_tm]

yes cyprus to greece... from greece i can take the ferry from patra or igoumenitsa. can u please ask her about the prices from ancona to igoumenitsa (probably she is going to igoumenitsa if she is from sallonica) about celica shipping + 2 people?

Exactly,

she make Ancona to Igoumenitsa...

I just asked her:

1 T20 + 1 people is 120 euros for the out and home in October !

[Wolf_tm]

Anek company, out and home price:

1 T20 = 116 euros

1 person = 85 euros

So 2 people and the car is 286 euros, out and home.

[recycle]

cheaper than i thought:) thank u re

[immortal]

paneuropean meeting???? this sounds wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

recycle your idea is great:)))

i hope to find some extra money until next summer and come with you guys

en na fkaloun mati ta celica mestin italia

epiases na kliseis tin pista gia tin sigkekrimeni mera re arxige?P

[Wolf_tm]

Just to have some mumbers...

how many persons would like to come in Italy in October ?

Except the Italians, 15/20 T20s...

001 recycle ( Cyprus )
002 immortal ( Cyprus )
003 .....

[recycle]

we are not talking about october my friend... but next august.

its a huge expence for our pockets and we need money to be saved. that is why we are planning so far ahaid

[Wolf_tm]

Ah ok, no problem,
i didn't understand it was for august 2007!

[vsideboy]

yey, almost talked my lass into us doing this instead of a summer holiday next year. whooppee.

she said as long as its not germany then shes ok. I think italy would be her desire.

OK how about we determine a list of possible places to visit and would we be looking at just going to 1 place or maybe having a week off and going round a few different countries?

Its bound to be along drive from the uk so I would prefer to have a several day trip rather than a 2 day one.

How about people from different countries, provide a brief paragraph on why the trip should visit them? What landmarks / point of interest are there to see and do?

Maybe this all sounds a bit of overkill but I'm sure I won't be the only person who is going to have to sell the trip to their other half and why they can't have a summer holiday in the sun but can sit in the car for several hundred miles!!

[Kadett]

If I still own the Celica at the time I will come

[recycle]

yey, almost talked my lass into us doing this instead of a summer holiday next year. whooppee.

she said as long as its not germany then shes ok. I think italy would be her desire.

OK how about we determine a list of possible places to visit and would we be looking at just going to 1 place or maybe having a week off and going round a few different countries?

Its bound to be along drive from the uk so I would prefer to have a several day trip rather than a 2 day one.

How about people from different countries, provide a brief paragraph on why the trip should visit them? What landmarks / point of interest are there to see and do?

Maybe this all sounds a bit of overkill but I'm sure I won't be the only person who is going to have to sell the trip to their other half and why they can't have a summer holiday in the sun but can sit in the car for several hundred miles!!

as i am planning i should be in italy 2-3 days before

maybe we can take advandage and with help of italian friends we can see italy:) or some part of it. or even more make a round in monaco... a sight never to be forgotten by rich people there:)

This post has been edited by recycle: Aug 7, 2006 - 10:08 AM

[Wolf_tm]

yey, almost talked my lass into us doing this instead of a summer holiday next year. whooppee.

she said as long as its not germany then shes ok. I think italy would be her desire.

OK how about we determine a list of possible places to visit and would we be looking at just going to 1 place or maybe having a week off and going round a few different countries?

Its bound to be along drive from the uk so I would prefer to have a several day trip rather than a 2 day one.

How about people from different countries, provide a brief paragraph on why the trip should visit them? What landmarks / point of interest are there to see and do?

Maybe this all sounds a bit of overkill but I'm sure I won't be the only person who is going to have to sell the trip to their other half and why they can't have a summer holiday in the sun but can sit in the car for several hundred miles!!

Vsideboy and all the others...

obviously I perfectly imagine that someone that is going to make such a trip, is not going to stay here for the 2 meeting days...

and in Italy there are many things to see...

Parma is:

- 45 minutes from Maranello... Ferrari...












- 1 hour from the Cinque Terre on the Tirrenian sea






- 1 hour from Forte Dei Marmi - Tuscany




- 1.5 hours from Rimini




- 2 hours from Florence






- 2 hours from Venice






.... and Parma itself is a very beautiful city...





So there are many place you could visit the days before or after the meeting...

[recycle]

i think we all agree to say that we are open for ideas:) 1 year looks as a long time but i think is just enough to make a perfect plan all ideas are welcome and plans can be adjusted.

something to make us all happy

[vsideboy]

OK sophies sold on the idea! although shes a bit distressed bout not getting a summer holiday but having a quick look at petrol costs of £500 for the san marino trip there and back in my 2.0 GT (I pity those GT4 guys!) then I reckon its gonna end up way more than a summer hoiday!!

I agree with recycle that as some of us are taking a week off work then maybe 1 or 2 of our italian counterparts could do the same and become our tour guides?

I think touring a few places and getting a few beers down our necks will be a good laugh.

This post has been edited by vsideboy: Aug 9, 2006 - 5:23 PM

[recycle]

nothing is like a cold beer:)

i just hear something and i totally agree:P

every vision is a joke... until accomplished

the vision is the biggest ever celica meeting

spred the word my friends... maybe u cant make it but a friend of yours with a celica can and wants to come.. its a pitty not to know about this

[Wolf_tm]

I agree with recycle that as some of us are taking a week off work then maybe 1 or 2 of our italian counterparts could do the same and become our tour guides?

That is really not a problem !!!

WE even have some members in Rome...
you could park the cars at my home in Parma's province, I get you to the train, and in 3,5 hours you could be there !

[recycle]

you could park the cars at my home in Parma's province

how big is your home mate?

[Wolf_tm]

you could park the cars at my home in Parma's province

how big is your home mate?

There is enough space in front of my home !!!

[vsideboy]

you could park the cars at my home in Parma's province

how big is your home mate?

There is enough space in front of my home !!!

I love it when a plan comes together!!

BTW car looks sweet!!



OK then, so we know that its going to be italy as our destination.
So between us can we come up with a list of things that will need to be done by people coming from different countries? As I (And possibly others) have never driven to a different country before so some help would be appreciated.

Add to the list if you think of anything.

1. Car insurance will need changing to incorporate driving abroad.
2.

This post has been edited by vsideboy: Aug 14, 2006 - 8:59 AM

[recycle]

1. Car insurance will need changing to incorporate driving abroad. (ask your insurance about this.. most EU insurances cover u 3rd party in whole EU + switcherland + romania + bulgraria)
2. use http://local.live.com/ its a good way to find direction to imola
3. its better to go to imola convoys and not everyone alone... for example french (and spanish) owners can join the english... german can join the swedish and so on... so its better for any one interested joining this meet to tell us in advance to manage these convoys. (i think is better like this... more people mean better prices at hotels and ships where needed and there is more safe when travelling more people together in a foreign country))

[vsideboy]

yeah I agree with the convoys and meeting up with people from different countries.

Plus it means more people to get lost at once haha

seriously though it makes it better if theres a breakdown and stuff like that too.

I think its gonna be a really good laugh this trip.

[Predator]

damn this would be a really cool meet, i'm very interested but i dunno if i got the money though
been talking to my best friend about taking a roadtrip to monaco earlier but now this may be another choice

another problem it that i'll prolly end up in russia or something, i got a habit of ending up where i planned, although by taking a 400% longer "shortcut"

[vsideboy]

you better set off a few weeks before us lot then mate.

[Wolf_tm]

3. its better to go to imola convoys and not everyone alone...

Recycle...

if you, guys, want me to organize the meeting, it's better to make it in PARMA, where I live, NOT Imola:

I know everything of the place I live, roads, hotels, restaurant, things to see in city ecc... when I know nothing about Imola !

Ok ?

[_rz_]

another problem it that i'll prolly end up in russia or something, i got a habit of ending up where i planned, although by taking a 400% longer "shortcut"

And if you do end up in Russia then you can join our convoy 'couse I'm definetly comming to this meet and I'm more then sure that out gt-four club will come and some other neat cars will join

I think this would be a trip everyone would remember for a long time

[recycle]

it's better to make it in PARMA, where I live, NOT Imola:

as i can see imola and parma are only 1 hour driving. the actual meet will be in imola... i think is better to be in a famous track, and we can spend the nights before and after at parma or where ever we choose to make this trip/meeting/hollydays perfect after all this is the plan

And if you do end up in Russia then you can join our convoy 'couse I'm definetly comming to this meet and I'm more then sure that out gt-four club will come and some other neat cars will join
I think this would be a trip everyone would remember for a long time

you are welcome to come:) tell it and to your friends from the nice celica meetings u guys have in moscow:)

[vsideboy]

maybe the nice organisers at the imola track could let us do a photo shoot on the circuit? (If theres nothing using the circuit on that day?)

[recycle]

maybe the nice organisers at the imola track could let us do a photo shoot on the circuit? (If theres nothing using the circuit on that day?)

the point of going to imola is driving the track not only to see it

[vsideboy]

okay.
i didn't know.

[recycle]

hotels near imola

[malpaso]

hotels near imola

OMG... My friend... You saw the prices? It's about 130€ per night for two people! Call me skinflint or Mr.Choosy but I would prefer this sort of accommodations (40€ for 2 people/night in Bologna that's my taste of price )

[vsideboy]

I have to agree with malpaso on this one.

If we're spending a ton on petrol to get there then as long as cars are safe then I don't care how cheap the accomodation is.

I would bring my tent and camp in someones back garden haha

[recycle]

i looked for hotels cos at hotels there is more safety with cars.. bologna is pretty close to imola... so is parma (wolfs city) so we have to find the perfect hotel (or back garden) for the ideal safety/price goal. i bet we can find many hotels even cheaper than the E40/night for 2 people but with no parking in the middle of empty roads with no trafic and no safety.. and to be honest i dont want to travel all these miles to come back on plane with no car... car safety come first... even little more expensive:P

of cource an other way is some of us act as car-guards at night army style. malpaso u are till 1 i will take 1 to 3

[vsideboy]

come on italy guys, find us a really super safe hotel, that has a hot tub in every room and naked pole dancers as entertainment in the reception while you wait to be checked in all for about 25 euros and I'll be happy. haha.

[recycle]

come on italy guys, find us a really super safe hotel, that has a hot tub in every room and naked pole dancers as entertainment in the reception while you wait to be checked in all for about 25 euros and I'll be happy. haha.

if everything else can be found i dont care about safety:p

[malpaso]

i looked for hotels cos at hotels there is more safety with cars.. bologna is pretty close to imola... so is parma (wolfs city) so we have to find the perfect hotel (or back garden) for the ideal safety/price goal. i bet we can find many hotels even cheaper than the E40/night for 2 people but with no parking in the middle of empty roads with no trafic and no safety.. and to be honest i dont want to travel all these miles to come back on plane with no car... car safety come first... even little more expensive:P

of cource an other way is some of us act as car-guards at night army style. malpaso u are till 1 i will take 1 to 3

Yea... agree... my point is not spend much money for hotel (better for fuel and riding ) however not as cheap as possible regardless where my car will be all the night...

[vsideboy]

whats imola and bologna like for car crime? It might be ok.

gonna have to come up with some more mods to wow you guys, as my lights will be old news by then!!!

[recycle]

whats imola and bologna like for car crime?

if u come from a country that barely anyone locks their cars and car alarms are something never seen in aftermarket sales leaving the car on an empty road in foreign land makes u little bit scare

[malpaso]

whats imola and bologna like for car crime?

if u come from a country that barely anyone locks their cars and car alarms are something never seen in aftermarket sales leaving the car on an empty road in foreign land makes u little bit scare

I understand that... you are right, I can even imagine anything should happend to my car there... disaster.

[Wolf_tm]

1. If you want to me to organize such a big and difficulty meeting, i have to make it in the places i know! Then not in imola!

2. I imagine you don't know that imola it's NOT a permanent track in which you can drive with your cars! It's open only some day when there are some events.

[recycle]

2. I imagine you don't know that imola it's NOT a permanent track in which you can drive with your cars! It's open only some day when there are some events.

u imagine correct.. i thought imola was open for people every day of year...

so.. we still need to find a track in (north) italy... what is your ideas? do u have msn?

[Predator]

I have to agree with malpaso on this one.

If we're spending a ton on petrol to get there then as long as cars are safe then I don't care how cheap the accomodation is.

I would bring my tent and camp in someones back garden haha

pfft i'd sleep in my car!

[vsideboy]

1. If you want to me to organize such a big and difficulty meeting, i have to make it in the places i know! Then not in imola!

2. I imagine you don't know that imola it's NOT a permanent track in which you can drive with your cars! It's open only some day when there are some events.

Wolf_tm, we do appreciate you honestly mate. Surely its not something that you have to organise on your own, are there no other 6gc member in italy?

and I also thought imola was a permanant race track. Didn't realise it was a road/track.

[recycle]

mates, here we talk about ideas.... Imola was an idea but (unfortunately) not a good one cos we cannot get inside... the only sure think is that is going to be in north italy... cos is centre of europe

Wolf u are from Parma... what u think we should do in that meeting? where to meet and where to go?

[vsideboy]

I'm not from parma but I reckon that we all go for a nice cold beer and some grub at some point on the trip anyway.

MAYBE even go for a boogie (dance) somewhere if theres any good nightclubs?

[recycle]

I'm not from parma but I reckon that we all go for a nice cold beer and some grub at some point on the trip anyway.

MAYBE even go for a boogie (dance) somewhere if theres any good nightclubs?

that is the sure thing:) beers and night out...
the question is about the rest

[vsideboy]

well, my lass will deffo want to see the sights and soak up some sun as this will be her summer holiday.

[recycle]

still not the answer about the 25th of august these are the side effects of the meeting... we all want to see the sun and the sights and have (really cold) beers and go out all together. but the actual meeting is the day we all go a place put the car in line and take good fotos

[vsideboy]

yeah i know mate. just bored so joining in the conversation.

[vsideboy]

get a row of cars in the foreground of this at night?



or in the foreground of this




and maybe in this square here?





ok probably not all that easy, just trying to be of some use. I'll leave it to the italy crew.

[recycle]

till now for the meeting to the unknown yet near parma we have people interested from:

england
sweden
czech rep
russia
italia
and cyprus.
EDIT: lets not forget holland

i have to guess that is hollydays time in other counties that have for sure beautiful celicas (like germany spain france greece and ofcourse lithouania) so they did not show any interest yet.

of course if any american wants to join us (someone that is willing to put his car in ship to europe and back) he/she is very welcome



This post has been edited by recycle: Aug 16, 2006 - 10:14 AM

[Wolf_tm]

mates, here we talk about ideas.... Imola was an idea but (unfortunately) not a good one cos we cannot get inside... the only sure think is that is going to be in north italy... cos is centre of europe

Wolf u are from Parma... what u think we should do in that meeting? where to meet and where to go?

Let me explain...

I'm the co-president of the celicat20 italy club, and I use to organize every national meeting we make, because Parma is quite central between Northern Italy and Rome.

So it would be not a big problem for me to make another one... for sure I have to make it here 'cause I perfectly know the places !

What we should do?
Everything we want !
Usually we make in this way:

Saturday we wait for all the people to come here in the afternoon... usually the place is located in Varano, at the local circuit ( www.varano.it ).

Then, as soon as all the people is arrived, we move to the b&b, and after to the restaurant.

Sunday morning usually we make a 50/60 kms trip of mountain roads to reach typical restaurant in the Appennini mountain.

In the afternoon there is then the time for pics, and walk.

We can even think about making 100 kms the next Monday to go to the Tirrenian sea.

WE have time, so any idea is appreciated...

LMK

[recycle]

mr co-president i love the way u organise italian meetings

here is my idea... close to yours.

friday we meet in parma... in a central spot of parma.. maybe a square next to a coffee shop or something similar. it has to be something easy to be found. for all of us it is going to be a very long day.. miles and miles of travelling so you should show us directions of the hotels we arranged from before.

saturday at noon we get all together we have something to eat and meet up and we do a nice travel to the local track (*) for hundreds of fotos and have time. we go later back to parma for saturday night out and lots of cold beer, or wine, or vodka or what ever we wish for

sunday after the headache from alcohol passes we can go for good trip... dont know where u choose to see italy... maybe like the ferrari museum or anything. i know italy is very beautiful country an i dont thing we get bored. dont forget that something u see every day and dont want to see it any more i something we never saw it before and we would love to see it. (this is the only difference from home meetings... u choose different place every time)

monday the official meeting will be history but (who ever has time and wants) can go anywhere with italian friends directions (alone or in groups or even all together) and have the hollydays of our lifes. (for example i want to visit monaco )

this is the plan in general. what u guys think? what u like and what u dont like? all opinions are welcome

(*) i contacted imola track (with some help from malpaso) if is possible to go there and drive in the track. i am waiting for reply. if the reply that we can go there i beleive is the only thing on the plan that can not be changed.

[recycle]

2 points i missed:

on friday cars can not come on same time.. its almost impossible to arrange what time finishes a 1-2-3 thousand km trip. so some of us will have to stay there almost all day long. ofcourse there is are the mobile phones... very helpfull now days so we get in contact if we miss a turn or get lost or be late. every one in a convoy MUST have at least one others number and the head of the convoy must have all of them. (this is a detail)

second point is that noone has to be there all 3 days. maybe one wants or can come only 1 or 2 days. he is also welcome just to tell us to arrange where we meet. everything in the meet is optional but it will a shame to come all that way and not to feel the whole meeting.. cos i beleive is not just be in the meet or seeing the meet... is feeling the whole thing.

[vsideboy]

I like the sound of all of it.
We will probably take a week or two off work so we are flexible as to when we set off on the trip and when we leave for home.

Hopefully if all the uk people could do something similar (maybe not 2 weeks but long enough so we aren't rushing to get there and back? Maybe stop off at a B&B on the way there? who knows? we can sort that out nearer the time with the rest of the uk convoy.

[Wolf_tm]

Let me decide what's better for the meeting planning...
for example it's not a good idea to have the first meet, waiting for all to come, in Parma... too much confusion!
I'll choose a place out of the city and near the highway exit.
If you really want to help me, just let me know what you prefer me to take you to see... for example:
maranello-ferrari?
Parma centre-monuments and shops?
A day at the tirrenian sea?

And please tell me how many days i have to organize...
3 days? That is to say the arriving would be on Thursday and i'll organize the meeting for Friday, Saturday and Sunday?
Obviously people can arrive everyday of the meeting, not necessarily on Thursday.

[Kadett]

till now for the meeting to the unknown yet near parma we have people interested from:

england
sweden
czech rep
russia
italia
and cyprus.
EDIT: lets not forget holland

How could you almost forget me!!!!!

[recycle]

till now for the meeting to the unknown yet near parma we have people interested from:

england
sweden
czech rep
russia
italia
and cyprus.
EDIT: lets not forget holland

How could you almost forget me!!!!!

sorry mate.. it was not intensionally

[recycle]

Let me decide what's better for the meeting planning...
for example it's not a good idea to have the first meet, waiting for all to come, in Parma... too much confusion!
I'll choose a place out of the city and near the highway exit.
If you really want to help me, just let me know what you prefer me to take you to see... for example:
maranello-ferrari?
Parma centre-monuments and shops?
A day at the tirrenian sea?

And please tell me how many days i have to organize...
3 days? That is to say the arriving would be on Thursday and i'll organize the meeting for Friday, Saturday and Sunday?
Obviously people can arrive everyday of the meeting, not necessarily on Thursday.

i believe is better u deside most of us have no idea what is worth seeing.. u choose something interesting and we will follow

[Wolf_tm]

Ok...

I think now it's the time to beginning to count how many people would come, where they'd come from,
and how much days they want the meeting will be ( max 3 days - min 2 days )

PS: I am talking about the meeting only.
Obviously if someone wants to arrive here and have an holidays the days just before or after the meeting, I'll give him advices for the places.

001 Wolf_Tm250 - Italy - 2 or 3 days

[vsideboy]

001 Wolf_Tm250 - Italy - 2 or 3 days
002 Vsideboy - Dan - UK - 2 or 3 days (+ girlfriend)

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cyprus: unknown number

5 cars so far and i havent told the celica club cyprus members yet

we plan a meeting in october and we will tell them then. i dont think the number of the cars infect the meeting plans a lot. (we are too many to just give them a call now)

[Wolf_tm]

cyprus: unknown number

5 cars so far and i havent told the celica club cyprus members yet

we plan a meeting in october and we will tell them then. i dont think the number of the cars infect the meeting plans a lot. (we are too many to just give them a call now)

Obviously it's too early to make a real list of members that will come...

btw, for example, the ideal would be to have an accomodation for ALL the members and cars in the same hotel:
for the last italian meeting, I found locally an hotel in province with many rooms and closed park for the cars...
but if we are going to be more than 30 cars/50 members I'll have to find something else...

This post has been edited by Wolf_tm: Aug 20, 2006 - 5:25 AM

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tufy says wıll come
magıc comes
immortal also
georgia (not in the foromus ss1 black)
konstantinos (very nice vvtli 7g white)
and me

and i didnt tell anyone else yet.

i hope for 30-40 cypriot cars at the meeting. but 10 will be success.

(note: i calculated the cost cyprus-italy-cyprus and is almost 3000 euro)

[malpaso]

I belive you can count with me too recycle (there is of couse chance something should fkd up in the future, however now I don't see any problem ) and I also belive some local guys will come with me

[recycle]

i am only talking about people from cyprus. for u is a shorter trip with much smaller cost

[malpaso]

i am only talking about people from cyprus. for u is a shorter trip with much smaller cost

fine, fine keeping silence already...

[tufy]

i will be very happy to see martin, (adrian) gt4uk, snakeloa and many new friends.
and i also want to see most of celicas that i only saw them at internet. like red angel ops sorry orange and gtfour.ch family. i like their meetins so much. i think snekeola can commucate with them for this meeting. i would like to see fensport cars and this purple 600 bhp gt four from uk also. and the black hks gt four from gtfour.dk ( i think its orrange now too)
who knows may ne we have a track
btw. should a celica should be orange to be a show car?

This post has been edited by tufy: Aug 26, 2006 - 9:04 AM

[snakeloa]

From recycle

ill now for the meeting to the unknown yet near parma we have people interested from:

england
sweden
czech rep
russia
italia
and cyprus.
EDIT: lets not forget holland smile.gif

Well don't forget German, Switzerland and Austria!!!
I think quite a few of us will be more than happy to participate... Usually about 20+ Celicas ST205 are @ our meetings.





Let me please say something: LETS MAKE THIS BIG!!!

First of all we have to organize a few things.

1) We all know that we want to hold a pan european Celica meeting. Fine.
So we have to make sure that all of the communities and boards like 6GC, GTFour.ch,GT4OC, GT4EC, GT4DC, CelicaTech, all Celica boards and Celica sections of all Toyota boards know about this!

Therefore we have to have 1 organizer from each country (a person who will come to the PECM and who is responsible for the organization of his country [information to his members, convoy planning...]) If the responsible person of one country will find out after a while that he won't be able to come to the meeting, he will have to give his organisation and all information to another member of his country! Then we will be on the save side and everybody is informed

Lets make a list for these "Country-Organisators":[country: Nickname @ which international board, real name, email:]
Cyprus:
Germany: Snakeloa @6GC, Joerg Calvis, Joergcalvis@gmx.de
UK:
Sweden:
Netherlands:
France:
Switzerland:
Austria:
Italy:
Czech Repub.:
Russia:
USA: Even if there won't be many. Maybe one or two of them would like to come without their car. Lets see i guess there will be somebody who will give them a ride on the passenger side!

... please copy and add your country

2) We have to find a responsible organization crew! 2-3 people who will receive all the information of the resposible "Country-Organisators" and who wil finally organize the meeting! I would recommend a list with:

1.: Recycle as he had the bloddy idea
2.: a person @ the location
3.: a person @ the location

3) We have to know what we want to organize: OK, it could be a meeting with:
Trackday, 1/4 mile, roundtrip through the mountain side, food, tech and talk, hotel, culture, video shoots, music and party maybe @ tracksite ...?

You see we have a lot of options.
But if we decide that we go on a track or do a !/4 mile or parcours event.... then we need a place for that! (Track, Airfield....) Then we should plan the other parts of the meeting around that.

We have to see that we might have a few hundred cars out there!!! I would guess 250-400 Or what do you think???

4) As a lot of us have got a long trip to get there, we should make it at least a full 2 day event (that means plus 1 day arrival and 1 day leaving) Beside that we could do it like @ the GtFour.CH Meetings and do a Video shooting day for all who would like after the event days.

Organisation is the moooooost important thing to make this event a happening
Well that are only a few thoughts from my side...

cheers Joerg

This post has been edited by snakeloa: Aug 26, 2006 - 8:57 AM

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snakeloa: its nice to see interest and nice ideas

first of all i believe is better to let wolf organise anything (he knows better what is good to see there and what is not + tracks, hotels, parking)

second is too soon to say someone for sure that is coming. many thinks can happen in 1 year.

third and most important: its a celica meeting, not a gt4 one, so if u have friends with celicas (any year/model) tell them that they are welcome

[snakeloa]

@ recycle....

1) I am cool with that. For me it is not important who is going to organize that. It is how well they do it... An i am sure who ever takes on this task of planing such a big event. Is going to put so much efort into that, that it will be a great event

2) Well i do not agree with that point if i understood you right. It is important to plan such things in advance. And 1 Year is not much time! I planed one of the GT Four meetings myself. And it is a lot of work!!! So lets get some ideas together (when, where and how) and then lets build a organization team (with wolf and who ever would like to participate) because it is a lot of work! Trust me

3) I never said that it would be a GT Four event... Please reread my post. I was just trying to offer my help and wanted to point out some facts i had to encounter while i organized the last years meeting. I am sure you will agree. Anyway, we both said it is a Celica meeting. So lets get back to the point where we plan this meeting.

I would say lets make a full 2 Day Event.
With 1/4 Mile (looking forward to see u there Tufy )
some time on a great racetrack
and maybe a nice party at the track with our cars music, drinks and a BBQ....

So Wolf is Imola a racetrack we could rent for a day? (Is it possible? How high are the costs? can we use the space around the treck for side events?)
What else can we do at the same time at this location ( 1/4 Mile???) while maybe 40 of the 250+ cars are on the track?

cheers Joerg

This post has been edited by snakeloa: Aug 26, 2006 - 12:00 PM

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snakeloa: sorry mate .. i missed the part of other celica communities. i am just making sure for all of us to understand that is a celica meeting all celicas are welcome the meeting will be organised to the last detail, its going to be a 2 day meeting (saturday and sunday) imola unfortunately is not an option (unless they reply to my emails) but as i can understand there are many tracks in italy we can use. the more people the better but till the last moment any one can join the meeting. the number of the celicas on the meeting does not affect the planning of the actual meeting. only hotel planning can be changed. any way in 2-3 months that everyone is informed about this (from websites and local clubs) we will have a good idea of the number of celicas and people there.

so to put an other name to the list

Germany: Snakeloa @6GC, Joerg Calvis, Joergcalvis@gmx.de
Cyprus: recycle, Demetris, recycle@cy.net, +357 9935 7516
also magic and tufy can be contacted
(cyprus members know more of magic than me, and turkish cypriots contact tufy)

these are suggestions for people of having a general idea about the meeting and if they want can help organising
UK: gt4uk
Holland: kadett
Italia: wolf_tm
Czech Rep.: malpaso

about Switzerland and Austria: u said they join u at gt4 meetings so.. i guess you have to inform them about this.

ps: i love the paint work on your car

This post has been edited by recycle: Aug 26, 2006 - 12:41 PM

[Wolf_tm]

2) Well i do not agree with that point if i understood you right. It is important to plan such things in advance. And 1 Year is not much time! I planed one of the GT Four meetings myself. And it is a lot of work!!! So lets get some ideas together (when, where and how) and then lets build a organization team (with wolf and who ever would like to participate) because it is a lot of work! Trust me

Hi snakeloa,

don't worry about that.... the meeting is ALREADY ready, one year in advance !

Because I'll use the format I already used for every italian national meeting I made here.

So this is not a problem.

The only thing really important for me would be to know the EXACT ( +/- 10 ) number of participants...
and this could be know only few months before the date.

I could say that for the 31 MAY 2007, I have to know who will be here.

And I'll have to have a money account for EVERY participant:
that's how I make for every meeting I made to avoid problems with hotels, b&b, or restaurants' reservations.

For example a 150 euros account should be enough for a 2 days meeting.

And 50 euros more if we want to rent a track.

I would say lets make a full 2 Day Event.

Ok.
So 2 full day event in reality is a 3 days event...

With 1/4 Mile (looking forward to see u there Tufy )
some time on a great racetrack
and maybe a nice party at the track with our cars music, drinks and a BBQ....

BBQ ????

So Wolf is Imola a racetrack we could rent for a day? (Is it possible? How high are the costs? can we use the space around the treck for side events?)

No.
Imola is IN Imola city, so they allow to use the track only in FEW important events per year, Formula 1 and a drag race...

What else can we do at the same time at this location ( 1/4 Mile???) while maybe 40 of the 250+ cars are on the track?

We could rent the local track in Varano ( www.varano.it ), it should be ok for a 1/8 mile
Prices are 6500 euros reserved for us for ALL the day, with 50 cars it'll going to be a 130 euro for participant... but I think we are going to be more than 50 cars...
at least 20 cars from our celicat20.it, so the rent of the track should be cheaper...



To tell the thruth I'm sure it won't be so difficult to organize it and I tell you why...
because to move so many ( 50 ? ) cars, with many not-italian people, every transfer will be VERY slow...
so if we are planning to make a trackday for a day,
the other day we "only" will have the time to go to Maranello to see the "Galleria Ferrari"... 1,5 hours to go, a pair of hours to stay there, and 1.5 hours to return in Parma... then some fast mountain roads to go to the dinner place, and the day is gone !



So let's find the national meeting organizer:

Germany: Snakeloa @6GC, Joerg Calvis, Joergcalvis@gmx.de
Cyprus: recycle, Demetris, recycle@cy.net, +357 9935 7516 (also magic and tufy can be contacted)
UK: gt4uk
Holland: kadett
Italia: wolf_tm, Wolf, wolf_tm@tre.it, www.celicat20.it
Czech Rep.: malpaso
France:
Spain:
Switzerland:
Poland:
Finland:
other ??

[recycle]

wolf... i am checking varano.it and saw this..

15-16 Luglio Triumph Speed T...
28-29-30 Luglio Meeting Euro...
06 Agosto DRIVING FAST DAY...
12-13 Agosto Raduno PORSCHE...
19-20 Agosto Raduno Automo...
26-27 Agosto DUCATI DESMO CHAL...
02-03 Settembre Camp.It. F3 ...
10 Settembre Coppa Italia SUPERMO...
16-17 Settembre Trofeo F.RENAULT...
24 Settembre CAMPIONAT...

every weekend from mid july to late september is booked. when do we have to tell them that we want the track for 25aug2007 and do we have to pay in advance?

[Wolf_tm]

wolf... i am checking varano.it and saw this..

15-16 Luglio Triumph Speed T...
28-29-30 Luglio Meeting Euro...
06 Agosto DRIVING FAST DAY...
12-13 Agosto Raduno PORSCHE...
19-20 Agosto Raduno Automo...
26-27 Agosto DUCATI DESMO CHAL...
02-03 Settembre Camp.It. F3 ...
10 Settembre Coppa Italia SUPERMO...
16-17 Settembre Trofeo F.RENAULT...
24 Settembre CAMPIONAT...

every weekend from mid july to late september is booked. when do we have to tell them that we want the track for 25aug2007 and do we have to pay in advance?

Exactly... I know this...

the first days of the 2007 I'll have a look on their calendar and see if the 25 August would be free...

If it's, I'll call them and pay in advance in May 2007, when I'll receive the money from the participants...

If it is not... I'll look for another track, but the problem would be it will be MANY kms from here... so much time lost in transfers...

This post has been edited by Wolf_tm: Aug 27, 2006 - 5:05 AM

[snakeloa]

Hello my friends

Wolf thank you for the answers. And i am glad to hear that the event will be easy to handle for you and the organization team

Ok i got a few questions....

As we plan to have a meeting with a trackday we need to think about a few things:

• Which track is well suited for us (remember only one group @ the time will be on the track)
• How many participants as a group can enter the track @ the same time
• How many groups can drive during that day? (from when to when?)
• Can we hold a 1/4 mile race @ the same time at the track location or nearby
• How much will this track cost in total?

As we are going to spent nearly the whole day @ the track area do we have enough space to park all these Celicas? I mean an area where we all can look under each hood and have a nice tech talk....

I think the track question is more important than the question for the location where we are based (hotel...). Because as you remarked right in this big group we are slow... and we cannot travel to much. We want to spent these 2 days together... but not half a day in a slow convoy So i think first need a track and then we build everything around that...

cheers Joerg

So let's find the national meeting organizer:

Germany: Snakeloa @6GC, Joerg Calvis, Joergcalvis@gmx.de
Cyprus: recycle, Demetris, recycle@cy.net, +357 9935 7516 (also magic and tufy can be contacted)
UK: gt4uk
Holland: kadett
Italia: wolf_tm, Wolf, wolf_tm@tre.it, www.celicat20.it
Czech Rep.: malpaso
France:
Spain:
Switzerland:Orange@ GTfour.ch, Stefan Vivian, orange@gtfour.ch, 0041797713728
Poland:
Finland:
other ??

This post has been edited by snakeloa: Aug 27, 2006 - 9:36 AM

[snakeloa]

Just as an Idea. This is the varano track layout...

maybe we could use the big redmarked track as race track and the small red marked "Test Area P3" as our 1/4 mile area.

I guess we need a track with:

• A race track
• something like a 1/4 mile or drifting area
• a parkingarea or a flat field where we can park all cars and have our tech talks
• an area where we can sit and watch the others go wild on the track or on the drag strip

Lets keep everybody busy with something or offer them options to do something while they are waiting to get on the track

cheers Joerg

This post has been edited by snakeloa: Aug 27, 2006 - 4:17 PM

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As we plan to have a meeting with a trackday we need to think about a few things:

• Which track is well suited for us (remember only one group @ the time will be on the track)
• How many participants as a group can enter the track @ the same time
• How many groups can drive during that day? (from when to when?)
• Can we hold a 1/4 mile race @ the same time at the track location or nearby
• How much will this track cost in total?

As we are going to spent nearly the whole day @ the track area do we have enough space to park all these Celicas? I mean an area where we all can look under each hood and have a nice tech talk....
I think the track question is more important than the question for the location where we are based (hotel...). Because as you remarked right in this big group we are slow... and we cannot travel to much. We want to spent these 2 days together... but not half a day in a slow convoy So i think first need a track and then we build everything around that...

i think the best solution is all car to be in the pit lane. (i suppose if u rent the track we rent also pits and timers) so plenty of room (28 full pits rooms says in the website) and we can get lap times for each car (correct me if i am wrong). so who ever wants to go on track will have no problem (i believe very few will want to go test their time with beasts racing:P

a convoy is slow in cities but on highway with the right cars at the write spot is perfect (in cyprus we manage to get up to 130 cars in same line going at legal speed with no problems of getting lost) of course is going to be slow (rwd + lwd cars, not familiar with roads) but i dont think is going to be tragic

[snakeloa]

The pit lane usually has to be clear for ambulance and firefighters... ( We have to get some information about the habbits of this track... Wolf?)
And in the pit boxes we might manage to fit 28 maybe double = 56 cars....
So we need some kind of area to fit the other 400
We would need a schedule (for Ex. 15:00 Group b enters pitlane; Group a enters Drag Strip....) I think we have to realize that a few hundred cars need quite some space and could if not well scheduled cause a great confusion...

So if we want Wolf could get into contact with this Race track and ask them:

Is the track available at our date?
How many cars can enter as a group the pit lane area and the track?
Could the racetrack be like i described obove half raceway half 1/4 drag strip?
Do they have an additional area to place the other cars which are neither on the strip nor in the on the track?
please feel free to add more questions...

cheers Joerg


This post has been edited by snakeloa: Aug 27, 2006 - 10:52 AM

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i love the way u think:) 500 celica meeting

[snakeloa]

i luv the way too Lets get some big sponsors and buy a few female pole dancers with the money....

[Kadett]

I will get the news on the Dutch Celica Forum so that makes me National Organizer

BTW its easier to make a list with the info then everything in 1 line so

Holland:
Nickname @ 6GC: Kadett
Real Name: Maarten van Dommelen
Local Forum: TCCN (TCCN = Toyota Celica Club Nederland)
Nick Local Toyota/Celica Forum: Kadett
Email Adress: dommelske@planet.nl
MSN: dommelske@msn.nl

This Setup is easier the look at IMO!

This post has been edited by Kadett: Aug 27, 2006 - 12:13 PM

[Wolf_tm]

Hello my friends

Wolf thank you for the answers. And i am glad to hear that the event will be easy to handle for you and the organization team

Ok i got a few questions....

Mmm.... snakeloa.... do you see/read my posts ?????
You are asking me things I already answered !

As we plan to have a meeting with a trackday we need to think about a few things:

• Which track is well suited for us (remember only one group @ the time will be on the track)
• How many participants as a group can enter the track @ the same time
• How many groups can drive during that day? (from when to when?)
• Can we hold a 1/4 mile race @ the same time at the track location or nearby
• How much will this track cost in total?

As we are going to spent nearly the whole day @ the track area do we have enough space to park all these Celicas? I mean an area where we all can look under each hood and have a nice tech talk....

I think the track question is more important than the question for the location where we are based (hotel...). Because as you remarked right in this big group we are slow... and we cannot travel to much. We want to spent these 2 days together... but not half a day in a slow convoy So i think first need a track and then we build everything around that...

....................................

The pit lane usually has to be clear for ambulance and firefighters... ( We have to get some information about the habbits of this track... Wolf?)
And in the pit boxes we might manage to fit 28 maybe double = 56 cars....
So we need some kind of area to fit the other 400 wink.gif
We would need a schedule (for Ex. 15:00 Group b enters pitlane; Group a enters Drag Strip....) I think we have to realize that a few hundred cars need quite some space and could if not well scheduled cause a great confusion...

Joerg.... I know how to do it.

Please organize the German convoy, and read twice what I already write about the track's availability, about the drag race, and the track's costs.

I'll care the meeting organization by myself, as I already done it many other times.

As I already told, you, the national referents, just have to tell me how many members from your nation, before the 31 of May 2007, and pick up the money accounts.



Germany: Snakeloa @6GC, Joerg Calvis, Joergcalvis@gmx.de
Cyprus: recycle, Demetris, recycle@cy.net, +357 9935 7516 (also magic and tufy can be contacted)
UK: gt4uk
Holland: kadett
Italia: wolf_tm, Wolf, wolf_tm@tre.it, www.celicat20.it
Czech Rep.: malpaso
France:
Spain:
Switzerland:Orange@ GTfour.ch, Stefan Vivian, orange@gtfour.ch, 0041797713728
Poland:
Finland:
other ??

[Wolf_tm]

Holland: Kadett - Maarten van Dommelen - dommelske@planet.nl - MSN: dommelske@msn.nl
Germany: Snakeloa @6GC, Joerg Calvis, Joergcalvis@gmx.de
Cyprus: recycle, Demetris, recycle@cy.net, +357 9935 7516 (also magic and tufy can be contacted)
UK: gt4uk
Holland: kadett
Italia: wolf_tm, Wolf, wolf_tm@tre.it, www.celicat20.it
Czech Rep.: malpaso
France:
Spain:
Switzerland:Orange@ GTfour.ch, Stefan Vivian, orange@gtfour.ch, 0041797713728
Poland:
Finland:
other ??