Cali guys: 1mzfe swap smog legal??? |
Cali guys: 1mzfe swap smog legal??? |
Sep 19, 2006 - 10:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '04 From S. Cali Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I was lookin around and read about the v6 swap. Can we drop that motor into are car without dealing with the smog crap. Thats the main reason i haven't done the 3sgte swap. I don't want to have to go through the hassle of finding someone to "help me out" with the smog test.
While on the v6 subject, can the 1mz fit in our car with the supercharger attached. I read that the 3mz was kind of a tight fit. |
Sep 19, 2006 - 10:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '05 From Long Beach Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i think it has 2 be the same engine in the same car.
that and the engine has to be newer than the car. if the first one dosent exist than congradulations, you can get a legally smogged v6 celica put a supercharger on that v6 and it will fail smog. -------------------- Is this good enuff 4 ya? :D
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Sep 19, 2006 - 10:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '04 From S. Cali Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i know the sc is carb legal, for the camry. but im not sure about it being in a celica tho.
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Sep 19, 2006 - 11:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Yes, as long as the engine is the same year of the car or newer, and it DOES have EGR, and is the same or newer OBD generation, then it's legal. And the S/C should be fine if it's a smog-legal version.
-Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Sep 19, 2006 - 11:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
call someone and find out for sure, he-said she-said wont help you when you get a ticket!
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Sep 20, 2006 - 2:46 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
yup, the v6 swap is legal. swap engines can't be older than the car or jdm in cali. a usdm 230hp na 3mzfe swap sounds good to me.
-------------------- ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts are on. which means i need to update my sig. |
Sep 20, 2006 - 4:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 12, '06 From Fresno CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
last time i check this what they told me.(hope this makes sense0)
motor has to be the year of that car or higher. you can't go back years. you can put other motors like a honda,ford,chevy, ect. you can only put motors from that weight classes, like im guess you can't put a B20 in a integra becuase that motor is from a SUV. the classes i belive are: light weight, heavy, SUV, and Deisal. those are the mains one or that should be it. when you a motor from another car, you have to go to the DMV and they will inspect it and will give you paper work so you can smog it. when smog time comes, you have to go to the ref. they have to smog it due to the paper work you got from the DMV. im not really 100 percent sure so don't quote me on something. hope this helps thought i want to put the scion TC motor hopefully i will be able to do that. -------------------- |
Sep 20, 2006 - 6:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
And in California, it HAS to have EGR!
-------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Sep 20, 2006 - 1:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 12, '06 From Fresno CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
oh i forgot and the motor has to be USDM
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Sep 20, 2006 - 3:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '04 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****.
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Sep 20, 2006 - 5:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '05 From Southern California Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
QUOTE(tomazws @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:47 PM) [snapback]481891[/snapback] Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****. yeah but only legally -------------------- |
Sep 20, 2006 - 6:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(tomazws @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:47 PM) [snapback]481891[/snapback] Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****. this is why I will just smog the car like the day before I do any kind of turbo or engine swap, then I don't have to worry about it for two years, and then, if (god forbid) I'm still living in cali in two years I'll try finding some dishonest guy that'll pass it for me after a little cash under the table. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Sep 20, 2006 - 7:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(tomazws @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:47 PM) [snapback]481891[/snapback] Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****. not really.... just can't be older, jdm, or have non street legal mods. cali is a lil more strict than most states. but i don't see why a v6 swap shouldn't pass. -------------------- ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts are on. which means i need to update my sig. |
Sep 20, 2006 - 8:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 28, '06 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm going to be moving to CA in a little less than a year and was wondering what swaps would be kosher out there? It seems like there are so many resitrictions that I might just need to buy a faster car when I want the speed and keep the ST for all the other days.
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Sep 20, 2006 - 11:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '06 From Daygo Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
where in cali?
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Sep 21, 2006 - 1:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(xelan @ Sep 20, 2006 - 6:34 PM) [snapback]482005[/snapback] I'm going to be moving to CA in a little less than a year and was wondering what swaps would be kosher out there? It seems like there are so many resitrictions that I might just need to buy a faster car when I want the speed and keep the ST for all the other days. if the car was registered in another state when the swap occured, I don't think it has to be limited to california engine swap rules as long as it passes smog (which is extremely strict), which includes having an EGR. if you look around on craigslist (in my area anyway) you see a LOT of cars for sale with engine swaps. most of them say "needs smog." I think people here get their car smogged, then engine swap it, then two years later sell it before they smog it so they don't have to deal with it. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Sep 21, 2006 - 12:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 28, '06 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks for the answer, and sorry to hijack the thread there for a bit.
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Sep 21, 2006 - 5:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 28, '06 From U.S.A. Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
not legal. the celi never came with a V6, so you can't do it. legal in the camry though.
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Sep 21, 2006 - 5:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '04 From S. Cali Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The reason i ask, is because i've got a friend who dropped a modified b18c5 (type R) with a usdm head and emissions crap into an eg hatchback. He got it bar'd and its now street legal. Now i know for sure that no honda civic hatch rolled off the factory floor with a type r motor, at least not in the u.s!!!
I guess i just answered my own question!!! |
Sep 28, 2006 - 8:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '05 From Modesto, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(dubk @ Sep 21, 2006 - 5:07 PM) [snapback]482378[/snapback] not legal. the celi never came with a V6, so you can't do it. legal in the camry though. Incorrect. The v6 CAN be swapped into the celi. You need to have ALL smog emission equipment from the donor car. Ex. Evap, egr, etc... The 1mz-fe can be from 94-whatever because that engine was available during our years. The supercharger is legal as well and if I recall correctly, it's even legal for 94 1mz-fe's. And as for the 3sgte's... Those are legal to swap into 94-95 celica's as well because the 3sgte was still offered in america in the mr2's. So when you swap it in and take it to the Ref, tell them it's a "Mr2 swap". *Also, you can get JDM engine swaps, however, you DO Have to install EGR. Josh does this up at www.chicoraceworks.com. Other then that, just make sure all vacuum and emission components are installed as per the 94-95 mr2. Go to alldata or michel online to get the 94-95 mr2 vacuum and emission diagrams and make sure you have ALL the components. -------------------- |
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