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> anyone tried twin charging?, just a thought
post Sep 28, 2006 - 6:54 PM
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I was just wondering if anyone has tried (Or even thought of) twin-charging their celica? Its probably not feesable and Im not thinking about doing it myself.....just wondering if it can be done to our cars.

Any thoughts??

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post Sep 28, 2006 - 6:58 PM
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post Sep 28, 2006 - 7:04 PM
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there was a twin charge set up for the 4agze if im not mistaken, i cant remember how made it, but i dont think its still available for retail...
post Sep 28, 2006 - 7:07 PM
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QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Sep 29, 2006 - 12:58 AM) [snapback]484971[/snapback]

Anything can be done, but you must ask yourself WHY?


.....apart from the fact that you could tell all your mates that you have a supercharger and turbocharger on one engine? lol wink.gif , seriously though their must be performance advantages such as no lag whatsoever. The old Lancia delta groub B rally cars had them, and the reason I asked was because I read an article on a new VW (Golf or polo I think) with a twincharged engine.


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 7:19 PM
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So sorry, I thought you meant twin turbo. Yeah a SC and a turbo has tons of benifits. I remember the v6 mr2 that was twin charged and it was sweet!


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 7:33 PM
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there was also a v8 powered twin-turbo st185 i've seen on another forum.. that was pretty cool.


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 7:39 PM
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QUOTE(azian_advanced @ Sep 29, 2006 - 1:33 AM) [snapback]484995[/snapback]

there was also a v8 powered twin-turbo st185 i've seen on another forum.. that was pretty cool.


Bloody hell! - anyone tried anything that radical in the 6th gen celica?


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 7:50 PM
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i toyed with the idea for a while....but i was going to do a very "ethnic" setup.

twin charging (btw, i had no idea there was a name for it, i was going to call it dual-stage forced induction) would have a few benefits, including more degrees of tuneability, pro/con offsets (turbo lag offset by consistent boost from sc, power-leech from sc offset by turbo, etc)....

but it would be six hells of expensive and a logistical nightmare. piping, intercooling, charger locations, multiple redundant gauges....yadda yadda.

it would be cool in a maybach kind of way, i.e. only because at the end of the day, it's completely ludicrous. biggrin.gif


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 7:58 PM
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It has been done. :-)

There is a Twin charged MR2 kit, old now...
http://shell.deru.com/~sgn1/AW11/mod/gsa.htm

There was (is?) an MR2 with a V6 & trd sc + a turbo. MR6 smile.gif
It was written up in Turbo magazine.

Twin charged Mini kits are out.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/843287/6

New Volkswagon Golf
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new_cars/golf/gt

Subaru WRX kit
http://www.forcedairtech.com/turbokits_wrx_stage5.html

Cobalt SS
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=105234

Meguiar's Type R An HKS 2835 turbo and a roots-type compressor gang up on this stock B18C with 20 pounds of boost.

http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredv..._car/index.html

If you have $$$ anything is possible.
I don't know how reliable it would be, really complicated to diagnose an air leak ? laugh.gif

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post Sep 28, 2006 - 8:06 PM
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This sounds interesting.... probably will do it in the future.


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 8:07 PM
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There's also this twin-charged 4A-GZE:

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/lane/1231/20-valve.html


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 8:17 PM
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well lets see. i have a 4agze aw11 type motor that will be sitting and be rebuilt in the future. I am getting hold of 4age 20v in a month. and lots of curiousity. So maybe one day i'll be running it. But for now its all an ehh.

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sc12 toyota supercharger
and a whole lot of fun!



aww... coomer beat me to the post.


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 11:05 PM
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omfg. the wrx kit is 10k. 10k, people. i am in shock. if you have anywhere near that amount of money, you should be driving a 1000hp supra, not a celica.

note that the majority of the cars above were show cars, not cars that get driven much.

edit: H8DC3lica94, i gather that you have more money and technical knowledge than anyone on this forum. i salute your efforts in making even a 3sgte swap look like childs play.

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post Sep 28, 2006 - 11:20 PM
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and then the twin-turbo v8 5th gen celica....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0veAb-CiM
post Sep 29, 2006 - 2:50 AM
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QUOTE(uberschall @ Sep 28, 2006 - 9:05 PM) [snapback]485130[/snapback]

omfg. the wrx kit is 10k. 10k, people. i am in shock. if you have anywhere near that amount of money, you should be driving a 1000hp supra, not a celica.

note that the majority of the cars above were show cars, not cars that get driven much.

edit: H8DC3lica94, i gather that you have more money and technical knowledge than anyone on this forum. i salute your efforts in making even a 3sgte swap look like childs play.


I apologize if people mistake this pic to be my motor. THIS IS NOT MY MOTOR. well not yet anyways. i wish. But coomer placed the link to find the site where this was taken. But due to the crappyness of geocities hosting, people are unable to get into the site. So i just provided a pic of how a twincharge system can be done on the 4age that isnt too costly.


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post Sep 29, 2006 - 1:00 PM
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QUOTE(uberschall @ Sep 28, 2006 - 11:05 PM) [snapback]485130[/snapback]

omfg. the wrx kit is 10k. 10k, people. i am in shock. if you have anywhere near that amount of money, you should be driving a 1000hp supra, not a celica.

note that the majority of the cars above were show cars, not cars that get driven much.

edit: H8DC3lica94, i gather that you have more money and technical knowledge than anyone on this forum. i salute your efforts in making even a 3sgte swap look like childs play.


A decient 1000 rwhp Supra will cost you more than 10K to build. Way more.

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