Did she deserve to be fired?, Bus driver flips off the president Options

[BlackCelicaGT94]

SAQUAH, Wash. - An Issaquah school bus driver who was fired for "flipping off" President Bush is trying to get her job back.

The 43-year-old has filed a union grievance against the district, claiming wrongful termination.

Congressman Dave Reichert said the obscene gesture occurred as he was traveling in the president's limo in June on the way to a fund-raiser in Medina.

At a freeway ramp the limo passed several Issaquah school buses. The students waved to the president and Bush waved back. Bush was having a good time until he saw the driver. Bush turned to Reichert and said the driver had flipped him off.

Reichert later called the school district and the driver was fired in September.

A spokeswoman, Sara Niegowski, said the gesture was "not at all appropriate modeling for students on the bus."

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My thoughts - i give her props for having the balls to express how some of us feel in the country and itd be different if you were in your own vehicle (though you should have some respect for the office) but you are on the job just like Id probably get fired if I flipped off a client of ours. So I think she should just drop it and go get a new job

This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Nov 2, 2006 - 11:17 AM

[mzztoyota]

hhmmm, that is a weird predicament...I agree that it wouldn't be so bad if she were in her own vehicle, but on the job and with students in the bus? Hmmm...you're probably right, anyone who flips someone off on the job with clients watching would at least be penalized...but are you aware of how many laws there are about not imposing your views on a "captive audience" of schoolchildren. (They're captive because they are required by law to be going to school.) I'm training to be a teacher and they are wicked strict about the fact that you are a role model to the children and if you make your opinions heard that it is like dictating theirs...this seems like it would fall under that category to me...

[bloodrain]

theres no excuses, what she did was immature. If you flip-off anyone at your job, your probably going to lose it.

[TomPoz]

WTF? In a free world one can express his/her feelings or opinions. Bush was not her or her company's client, so it has nothing to do with it.
Regarding schoolchildren - sorry, but how are they to learn what is happening, what people think and what options they have? if not by experiencing such situations. For me this is b@#$%^t, there is no single truth, no single right way - so opportunity to experience variety of thoughts, opinions, behaviours etc. is the only way one can compare, analyse and choose.

Sorry if I sound bit extreme but I am fed up with right winged conservative government we have now in Poland - trying to control everything so I scream for freedom!!!

[ExSane]

Yeah? So Bush flipping off on the TV screen to america is OK? I say political hypocrytical bull****.

http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=57

She was just doing the "One Finger Solute". Jeez. He didn't recognize it? He invented it!

This post has been edited by ExSane: Nov 2, 2006 - 11:38 AM

[hitcachi]

WTF? In a free world one can express his/her feelings or opinions. Bush was not her or her company's client, so it has nothing to do with it.
Regarding schoolchildren - sorry, but how are they to learn what is happening, what people think and what options they have? if not by experiencing such situations. For me this is b@#$%^t, there is no single truth, no single right way - so opportunity to experience variety of thoughts, opinions, behaviours etc. is the only way one can compare, analyse and choose.

Sorry if I sound bit extreme but I am fed up with right winged conservative government we have now in Poland - trying to control everything so I scream for freedom!!!

This man speaks the truth. More freedoms are being stripped away every day.

[Mynzeyes]

Freedom of speech, press, expression, etc only applies as long as in doing such, you are not attacking anyone, or obstructing their own rights.

that's why you can't cuss people out, or flick people off, or publish slander, etc.

there is a gray area. you all should know this.

[confucious]

Freedom of speech, press, expression, etc only applies as long as in doing such, you are not attacking anyone, or obstructing their own rights.

that's why you can't cuss people out, or flick people off, or publish slander, etc.

there is a gray area. you all should know this.

on top of that, she did it in front of children.

[Mynzeyes]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inalienable_rights

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men."

When you do anything to obstruct any of those pursuits, you have a problem.