gt 4 front bumper question Options

[celicaST]

ill be getting a gt4 bumper here in the next week. after looking through the jdm parts database in the sticky, i was wondering if i need the 2 brackets for the upper grill for it to stay in place. if so, why is it listed as optional? thanks

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1481

to save on costs right now im looking at just getting the cover, upper grill, and turns.

on a side note, i dont know where those prices came from, but the prices from my toyota dealer are a bit higher. all the parts listed under bumper parts came out to 815.43

This post has been edited by celicaST: Jan 14, 2007 - 1:59 PM

[Kadett]

From what I can tell you need them to secure the grill in its orginal way. They bold on it from the innerside of the bumpercover. Can be secured with a little creative thinking without using those brackets.

[lagos]

i didnt buy the brackets for the upper grill. i just used some silicone and 2 zip ties to hold it in place. so its up to you.

toyota has 2 prices they can charge you. list and net. normally when you go to the dealer, they try to charge you the higher list price of the item to get the most money out of you. but what they dont tell you is that they can sell the item to you at a much lower net price. you can try asking them for a discount to see if they will give you the net price.

i think the idea behind their net/list pricing is that if a mechanic phones in an order to them, he can get it for net, and then make some money off the part by charging the customer the list price.

[NgoFcukinWay]

$815 is a bit much there. I got most of my bumper parts for half of that.

[celicaST]

thanks guys, and thanks lagos for the heads up, ill see if i can get it cheaper hopefully

[97lestyousay]

everything without fogs,turns, crashbar and hood latch from toyota world
is less than 1050 including the hood and painted bulge pieces.
85.00 EA for L&R bulge pieces if I remember the other is about
$35.00-$40.00

2 post riser blocks are 135.00 ea
These prices aren't in the sticky.

[celicaST]

everything without fogs,turns, crashbar and hood latch from toyota world
is less than 1050 including the hood and painted bulge pieces.
85.00 EA for L&R bulge pieces if I remember the other is about
$35.00-$40.00

2 post riser blocks are 135.00 ea
These prices aren't in the sticky.

1050 for the bumper and the hood? when did you get that quote? called toyotaworld week or two ago and they quoted me 650ish for the bumper and components, hood not included.

[97lestyousay]

No fogs or turns or fog bezels. regular bezels though.
MSRP / your price/ core / total
COVER, FR BUMPER L/ 1 $269.12 $201.84 $0.00 $201.84
ABSORBER, RF BUMPER 1 $67.93 $50.95 $0.00 $50.95
SEAL, HOOD TO FR END 1 $21.58 $16.19 $0.00 $16.19
RETAINER, FR BUMPER 1 $27.52 $20.64 $0.00 $20.64
GRILLE, RADIATOR, CT 1 $146.62 $109.97 $0.00 $109.97
GRILLE, RADIATOR, LW 1 $10.90 $8.18 $0.00 $8.18
EVAPORATOR S/A 1 $10.90 $8.18 $0.00 $8.18
BRACKET, RADIATOR GR 1 $15.09 $11.32 $0.00 $11.32
RETAINER, RADIATOR G 1 $16.78 $12.59 $0.00 $12.59
HOOD S/A 1 $501.36 $376.02 $0.00 $376.02
PLATE ASSY, HOOD BUL 1 $46.56 $34.92 $0.00 $34.92
Total: $850.80
Edit:+ 110.00 shipped to my address in WA state.

Edit:
OEM Catalog
ORNAMENT S/A, HOOD R $117.89 $88.42 $0.00 $88.42
OEM Catalog
BULGE ASSY, HOOD $30.89 $23.17 $0.00 $23.17
OEM Catalog
ORNAMENT S/A, HOOD L $117.89 $88.42 $0.00 $88.42
OEM Catalog
SPOILER S/A,RR SIDE, $177.48 $133.11 $0.00 $133.11
OEM Catalog
SPOILER S/A,RR SIDE, $177.48 $133.11 $0.00 $133.11

Total: $466.23



This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Jan 25, 2007 - 12:22 AM

[celicaST]

No fogs or turns or fog bezels. regular bezels though.
MSRP / your price/ core / total
COVER, FR BUMPER L/ 1 $269.12 $201.84 $0.00 $201.84
ABSORBER, RF BUMPER 1 $67.93 $50.95 $0.00 $50.95
SEAL, HOOD TO FR END 1 $21.58 $16.19 $0.00 $16.19
RETAINER, FR BUMPER 1 $27.52 $20.64 $0.00 $20.64
GRILLE, RADIATOR, CT 1 $146.62 $109.97 $0.00 $109.97
GRILLE, RADIATOR, LW 1 $10.90 $8.18 $0.00 $8.18
EVAPORATOR S/A 1 $10.90 $8.18 $0.00 $8.18
BRACKET, RADIATOR GR 1 $15.09 $11.32 $0.00 $11.32
RETAINER, RADIATOR G 1 $16.78 $12.59 $0.00 $12.59
HOOD S/A 1 $501.36 $376.02 $0.00 $376.02
PLATE ASSY, HOOD BUL 1 $46.56 $34.92 $0.00 $34.92
Total: $850.80

hmmm i never tried entering the parts number on the site. why the hell did he quote me so much when i called?

[97lestyousay]

I dunno thats right off the site.
I just edited for other pieces.
Painted pieces and risers.

Edit added shipping 1190.00 for hood and bumper parts
to WA. Everything listed xcept riser blocks.

This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Jan 25, 2007 - 12:38 AM

[AndyTTR]

Hey guys, some quick questions for ya. I'm putting a ST205 front onto a 1995 (pre-facelift) ST204 (same front end as the ST202 / 203).

I need to know,
- the bar that the fog lights are on, is that the 'reinforcement bar' or is that a separate part?
- where does this bar bolt onto the chassis? I can't see any bolt holes that line up, do i need to drill new ones or should it line up with some existing ones?

Thanks for the help!

This post has been edited by AndyTTR: Feb 1, 2007 - 9:41 PM

[NgoFcukinWay]

fog lights? i think they sit in the grill. I could be wrong though. I haven't gotten around to getting my bumper installed ever since I bought it nearly a month ago. As for a bar, as far as i know, your crash bar needs to be cut a bit to fit the bumper, or you can pick up a GT-4 crash bar.

[presure2]

Hey guys, some quick questions for ya. I'm putting a ST205 front onto a 1995 (pre-facelift) ST204 (same front end as the ST202 / 203).

I need to know,
- the bar that the fog lights are on, is that the 'reinforcement bar' or is that a separate part?
- where does this bar bolt onto the chassis? I can't see any bolt holes that line up, do i need to drill new ones or should it line up with some existing ones?

Thanks for the help!

the fog lights attach to the "reinforcement bar"
to use the GT-4 rebar, you need to get the gt-4 frame brackets.

[azian_advanced]

check this thread. it should give you some info on how to fit the gt4 bar fitment on a st204 without the use of gt4 frame rail brackets..
the only problem doing it this way is that the gt4 reinforcement bar will not fit flush into the bumper absorber, instead it's about an inch or two away.
if you want to mount the st205 foglights properly, then you'll need to get the st205 frame rail brackets.

finished gt4 conversion

[ScoobyDooCruiser]

If you have the foglights too, just save yourself the work and get the gt-4 crash bar. If you don't have the foglights, the cut-down us one would work fine. Its a lot of work to get the fog-lights to mount without the gt-4 bar.

The bar will attach to those two big metal posts that stick out on either side of the front of your car. Just look for two big rectangular pieces. You will need to remove the brackets that the US one mounted to.