 can a GT-S beat a civic type R in a sprint race?, not a very valid question to most, but.. |
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 Sep 13, 2003 - 11:29 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Sep 12, '03 From NB Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I used to be abel to keep up with my friend when he has his plain civic EX, but he's doing a type R swap (JDM) so he'll be skooting along nicely.. So I was just wondering how well the 5SFE can keep up with a B16B?? and no I'm not some idiot street racer, I'm a 22yo university student who wants to bug the **** out of his friend because he owns a torqueless car HAHAHAH!
 and BTW I have been drinkign tonight if there are any grammar errors. thanks guys! This place is great
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Sep 14, 2003 - 1:19 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 8, '03 From NorCal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
He'll eat you alive... You'll beat the EX tho...
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Sep 14, 2003 - 1:53 AM
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you have no chance
unless he kills it at the start oh wait he will probably catch up anyway. |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 6:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '03 From Chatham, Ont Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ya man people bash hondas but they are pretty mean. Maybe not off the line but they will come screamin by you with that topend power. Atleast with vtec engines, the stock b engines I dont think have much to brag about.
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Sep 14, 2003 - 9:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 12, '03 From NB Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
LOL, Yeah, thats what I thought. He's doing the swap so he'll be able to keep up with another friend of ours who just bought a 2002 WRX, but I still dunno if he'll be able to or not...
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Sep 17, 2003 - 2:24 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
if u got da GT-S BEAMS engine then I think u can be on par...but o well.
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Sep 17, 2003 - 2:59 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 5, '03 From Bay Area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Nope. But if you're turbo than that's a different story.
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Sep 17, 2003 - 3:26 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
try to turbo your 5sfe or better yet do your own swap.. 3sgte anyone? done right and you'll smoke him.
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Sep 17, 2003 - 11:20 AM
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correction. he'll smoke both the pseudo type-r and the wrx. my dream is to someday race my friends porsche 911 and win. then again, thats probably not gonna happen. 
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Sep 17, 2003 - 4:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 5, '03 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
First, a type R (JDM) is a B18C. Second, it'll eat you alive. 210 horses I believe plus great top end pull. This combined with it LSD pull kill a 5sfe. The beams 3sge is a different story. Black TopI'm almost cetain will beat the type R. Red Top will probably beat it, if not atleast run neck and neck.
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Sep 17, 2003 - 5:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 8, '03 From NorCal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
b18c5 is the Integra type-r motor...not the Civic type-R. The civic type-R, I believe is the b16b1 or something like that... then again...it's not clear which type-R motor is being swapped...=/ Here's the engine codes: B16A (JDM Civic SiR, USDM 99+ Civic Si) 160hp 8k redline B16B (JDM Civic Type-R) 170hp 9k redline B18C1 (USDM 94+ Integra GSR) 165-170hp 8k redline B18C5 (JDM/USDM Integra Type-R) 175-180hp 9k redline Or something in that neighborhood... Now to compare... Beams Redtop 200hp (supposedly...closer to 190-197) 7600 or 7800 redline (I forget) Beams Blacktop (RWD Altezzas only) 210hp (dual VVT-i) not sure about the redline... probably same as redtop The yota motors definately make more power and most definately make more torque, 150-160 ftlbs (in useable range 3-4K rpm) compared to 110-117 ftlbs (in unuseable range 6800 rpm)...however, I'll still bet the honda's will give the Beams motors a run for their money just because the gearing on the hondas are typically so much better. This post has been edited by Kwanza: Sep 17, 2003 - 6:04 PM |
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Sep 21, 2003 - 9:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 12, '03 From NB Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yes, that is correct, he is doing a JDM Civic Type R swap, this means it's the B16B motor which has approx, 175 crank hp and around 118 lb-ft of trq. and a 8900 redline. It's basically a racing engine, strong lightweight internals. I didnt think the 5SFE would be much competition, but with the 3SGTE, thats another story 
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Sep 21, 2003 - 9:34 PM
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before the race. some how get underneath his car and empty out ALL the tranny fluid
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Sep 22, 2003 - 10:19 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 12, '03 From NB Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol, yeah thats a pretty good idea
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Sep 26, 2003 - 2:45 PM
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The B16B is rated at 185hp @ 8200. |
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Sep 27, 2003 - 1:20 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I kill those EX's all the time...as well as RS and GS Eclipses...but I raced a guy with a Si and B16B swap...he totally whomped on me...I knew he'd beat me didn't think he'd kill me and wanna make me go dig a hole in the ground. That's with my Celi tho not RX7...
Definitely go 3SGTE if you wanna for sure beat them. It'd really depend on how each of you drive if he had the B16B and you had either the red or black top. It will depend on the launch and shifting ability as well as clutch/gas control....all the typical things that mater most when dragging. Sorry, just blabbering. -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
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