UPDATE: my new motor Options

[celica9110]

so i blew my motor
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well shes knocking
i just put in 5 quarts of oil in her
....so i think shes almost done
so....could i take an ST and put in on of the other motors, with the same mounts in the same place?
also
im gonna do a manual swap with it....will it be easier to do that while i have no motor?

This post has been edited by celica9110: Dec 11, 2008 - 9:20 AM

[bccentaur3]

Do you have a lot of money saved up? What kind of performance do you have in mind?

[celica9110]

i have like $1200 saved
and does the 5s have turbo?
as well as the 3s?

[bccentaur3]

The 5sfe motor is the factory motor found in the usdm celica GT.

Your motor the 7afe is the factory motor found in the usdm ST.

The 3s motor you are referring to is more then likely the 3sgte which is found in the usdm 5th gen celica all-trac and mr2 turbo.

The only motor that comes factory turbocharged is the 3sgte.

with 1200 saved up you can't do the 3sgte swap.

But you can get yourself a stock 7afe motor and call it a day. Not worth putting in a 5sfe into your celica, because the motor mounts won't line up without some modding and I think the wiring harness needs to be done.

[celica9110]

soooooo....how do rebuild a motor persay??
lol
stupid question
but what kind of tranny is in the 7a

[bccentaur3]

I believe the c52 is used on the 7a.

[celica9110]

would i have to have a pro do the swap?

[bccentaur3]

No, you can do it yourself. You'll just have to gather the parts needed.

[celica9110]

how much is it? lol btw i need to find a motor too/rebuild parts

[bccentaur3]

I don't know. But if you know what you'll need for the swap the best place to look for used parts is car-part.com

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Nov 16, 2008 - 11:05 PM

[celica9110]

k...but like, the engine is knocking what could that be

[bccentaur3]

Maybe you spun a rod bearing.

IIRC start your car and pull out the plug wires one by one to see which cylinder it is.

[celica9110]

how will i figure it out..
sorry for the stupid questions

[bccentaur3]

The noise stops if you pull out the right spark plug wire.

[celica9110]

then how would i fix it?
like is it hard?
btw im replacing my valve cover gasket in a few days...soooo
while i have that off can i fix it?

[bccentaur3]

No. The valve cover is the top end of the motor where the head is. If you really think its a knock then its coming from the block. Now if its a ticking noise it could be the valves in the head. But since you are saying its a knock its your block. You'd have to inspect the cylinder walls to see what kind of damage. Inspect the crankshaft too, you spun a rod bearing. If you are doing it yourself if will be a pretty cheap build. But I think its better to find a used motor in good shape and just swap it in.

[celica9110]

its like a rattly knock noise...
ya know?
and what kind of motor should i get? to do the swap

[celica9110]

what about swapping in a 4AGE silver top from a 90-96 corolla?? i read somewhere that the A trannys will bolt up to the A blocks... if this is true then The 4AGE will bolt up to my stock auto off my 7AFE, correct?... but are the mounts the same?

the other thing is the ecu, if this motor will work then what ecu am i going to need to run it? im puretty sure that my stock ecu wont work due to the ITBs

but this swap seems like it would be the best for power and money because i can get the motor for $490+ shipping..

i just need some info on this so if anybody knows or knows somebody who can point me in the right direction on this, or hook me up with a DIY or just helpful links, it would help out a lot, thanks...

[lagos]

its like a rattly knock noise...
ya know?
and what kind of motor should i get? to do the swap

Yeah, then your motor is shot.
If you dont know much about these cars, then just get another 7afe from a junk yard to swap in there.
Doing any other 3sgte or 4age swap is a bad idea, if you havent done any research beforehand.

[Taskbot]

Hahaha yeah research the 4A. I guarantee you will find something you like and you won't have to swap trannys or you could use any one of the trannys that mates up with an A engine. The best thing is that you can source most of your parts from ****ty DD corollas.

But yeah, switching for A to S is a bad idea, unless you have the money and you really want to get a 3S-GTE, you'd need to source way too much crap to be worth it.

If you just want something a little more peppy than your 7A you can source any of the 4A-GE engines. If you want more power and some boost, you can get a 4A-GZE from the JDM Corolla Levin(AE92 and AE101 I think). If you want some screaming fun N/A power you can source a 20V 4A-GE silvertop from the AE101 or blacktop from the AE111.