 Swap or Turbo??? |
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 Oct 15, 2003 - 4:53 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
ok i just wanted to know what you would do and why?
I say Turbo cause for me that is the best option... I can install the turbo myself in one day once i have all the parts... I'll be able to still pass emissions and if i don't i can just pull the turbo out and make the car N/A again...i'll also be about to get a turbo and the rest of the part for a lot less then i could get a jdm engine... and i'm not out to make crazy hp anything more then 200 is to much for me.. i just want a little more kick then what i already have. This post has been edited by macavely: Oct 15, 2003 - 10:19 AM -------------------- |
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Oct 15, 2003 - 7:27 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I voted Swap because I to have a 95 coupe and My engine is running strong but I don't now if it will last and I don't have $2000 bucks or more to throw on my engine that might just die.
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Oct 15, 2003 - 7:57 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I voted TURBO, cuz in my case there is practicly NO chance to find good motor for swap (3S-GTE or 4A-GZE) and i can Turbo my engine for low 800$... So
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:40 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '03 From South Central Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i say swap. More power and a lot more options on tunning.
my swap is almost done. |
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Oct 15, 2003 - 1:11 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i already turboed my car, lol
i did it because of less down time, emissions laws, and the fact that my car is still under warranty and an ST auto. weather you should swap or turbo is up to the car and the owner. depends on where you live and how much money you have. thee is no set answer as to which to do. but if you want all out power, its better to do a swap. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Oct 15, 2003 - 5:45 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
For the money your better off with a swap.
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Oct 15, 2003 - 6:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '03 From Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Swap. But if you only have a little bit of money, turbo is better.
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Oct 15, 2003 - 9:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Turbo'in the 5 is going to be almost as expensive.
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Oct 15, 2003 - 10:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Turbo the 5s or 7a and try to break the zombie effect on the 3s which is running rampant. For no apparent reason.
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Oct 15, 2003 - 10:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
- swap why upgrade just a small part of the motor when you can do the whole thing?? if your gonna do something do it right or don't do it at all.
if you wanted to get really technical by the time your done with a turbo conversion its gonna cost more - expessially when you add in the cost of a new motor.... I have said this over and over and seen it happen over and over.. turboing a N/A vehicle is a bad idea unless you plan to rebuild the whole motor.. and by the time you get done doing that your gonna spend as much if not more turboin a N/A motor than a 3sgte swap and you still wont ever come close to the stock power and reliablity of the 3s - period. And that I don't want to go over 200hp bit is crap - cuz as soon as some car beats you at 200hp its gonna get old and you will wanna go bigger and faster and eventually your gonna turn that boost up too much and >BLAM< there goes your motor 
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Oct 15, 2003 - 10:49 PM
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^^^
i'm with stupid |
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Oct 15, 2003 - 10:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
for the sake of not getting into another arguement I'll just assume your quoting the t-shirt -------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
http://celica.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?u...c;f=29;t=004719
maybe that will help a little with the decision. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
LMAO -------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
at least he plans ahead LMAO even more -------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
he has had bad luck. but the engine problems came from when he had the engine rebuilt before he went turbo.
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
an coolant leak in a motor that is not obiously from the radiator or radiator hoses 9 times outta 10 is a blown gasket.. usaully the head gasket - which is bad. Granted it is in a head gaskets nature to go bad... thats what they do. But It would not surprise me at all if it is a direct result of added boost to a N/A motor.. I have seen the exact thing happen before - if hes lucky he will just had a small little hole in one of the corners of the head gasket and hopefully not too much of the coolant has mixed in to the oil. He will be lucky if the car runs for another 6 months. And I really doubt that he would overlook the fact to redo the head gasket when he had the motor rebuilt.. even moreso if he is talking about takling the job of custom making an intake manifold. 97sccelica I know that you are a fan of the turboed 7a.. hey thats fine but really weight the pros and cons of a project before you start it -------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
People can we really stop burying the n/a to turbo setups-christ its getting old. Im turbocharging my 5s with 77k miles on it at 6-7psi. So I imagine from eveyones thoughts is ..its gonna blow its not worth it, get over yourself and the 3s dream. We all have different hp goals and i want 165whp...so what if a mustang beats me Im gonna wanna keep building.....no. There will always alwalys be someone faster and a motor swap is not for everyone and a T-setup is not for everyone. So the whole "its not worht it" is really getting old...its all HP right and keeping everything in safe parameters is what its all about. I dont want to argure the damn swap with anyone but open your mind and realize there are several other options that make HP weather it be bulding the head of the 5s...swapping the 3sgte...T-charging 5s or 7a so all in all. Do what YOU feel is right..not what the more popular reply is.
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Oct 15, 2003 - 11:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I am just trying to tell people to do it right if your gonna do something like turbo a N/A motor.. Read the other topics about this subject and you will see the same thing. I have help to turbo N/A cars before and the result has always been less than satisfying (sp?). You see me as someone just trying to jump on a band wagon - please don't it insults me. I did this swap quite a while ago - and am currently redoing the whole thing to make it even better than before.... I am just trying to tell people that the 3s or 4a swap is going to be a better route and always will, simply because those motors are built for boost where the 7a and 5s are not. If you are turboing your car just for the cool "whooosh" noise then just buy a simulator and move on cuz your doing it for the wrong reasons. Im trying to help you from putting your self into a potentually more expensive and longer process of modifying and probably replacing your motor, trust me a blown motor SUCKS I have gone threw my fair share of blown motors, And you flame me for it..... WTF??!?!?! If you are sick of reading about this discussion... 3s or turboed 5s/7a.. then dont read the topic.. think SWAP OR TURBO for the title would tell you what its about - apparently not. If mommy and daddy wont let you do a swap then research your butt off and do your homework and then sit them down and explain them the benifts of doing a swap vs turboing it, present it in the most favorable light but dont lie about it and let them make a desicion based on the facts. -------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Oct 16, 2003 - 1:01 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
First of, no one was talking to just "you" but you want to take it as a direct reply, thats cool. And another thing @ss, Im 21 I own my own appartment, pay bills, father died, moms sicker than s***. I decide what I want and I was simply stating that alot of "you" talk about the swap and never do it and always reccomend it. There are other alternatives than a damn swap genius(such as custom T-kit).
DO NOT make assumptions of other people when you dont know jack about them and again no-one was talking directly to you so ease off. This post has been edited by 5sfeTurbo: Oct 16, 2003 - 1:02 AM |
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