I Swapped 3s-ge Redtop Into 97 Limited Edition Vert., Pictures are restored, many more added 5/24/11 Options

[njccmd2002]

5/24/11 this thread was edited, with updated pics and added extra information for those beams swappers!!!!

anything you see in red, its very important to pay notice to, it will save you money in the long run...


Also this is not the bible of the Beams swap, others have attempted this swap and have good experience with it. No this swap is not going to give you 600 hp


GOOD LUCK!!!


Ok, before anyone asks, it wont go in until December, how much i paid, plenty bucks...

I will keep my fingers crossed until then, cuz i wont have warranty, but its supposed to be low mileage engine between 20 - 35 k miles. Seller forgot to ship the ecu, but will ship it on monday..

i have a question for Turnip and 2bcelica batman or rusty. I have a couple of cables that need ID

With any swap make sure you are getting what you are buying, ask for pictures to the seller, you dont understand how important this is because, you will be misled into buying crap!!!!





that little thing you see there is the vvti sensor, this is the most common broken sensor and its expensive, about 300 usd...





See how clean the engine looks from inside, this attests to the low mileage claim, well most of the time



Another big issue, as this is missing the OEM box and the MAF, two items very important to keep the air flow regulated.



This next picture and the previous one, shows something important, the Bpipe, your swap must have one, or make it from scratch, good thing to also get the axles, you see, mine were cut, although you can use the 5sfe axles, the beams axles are beefier.











The OEM fuse box, very important because you want that EA1 plug intact!!!



And please, the most important, GET THE ECU, they forgot to send mine.




the first one, is this cable located at the exit of the TPS sensor i asume, its three cables black red and white.



on the harness this one is located here kind of goes to the back, dunno


the other one, is another cable that goes parallel to the AFM sensor, its cut so dont know what it is, it looks like another set of 3 cables... this one goes to the front...




of course cut under the fuse bay harness, but i assume this are for foglights and headlights.



Unknown sensor, but i have a plug that fits, and is not one of the any ones that have been cut. located on the intake, so must be some sort of vacuum sensor



an extra vvti solenoid, cuz the original is broken.... hope its not a pain to replace this bastard...



I got the B pipe, but the flex section, is very flexy, as i remember my 5sfe one was a little stiffy. so i dunno.

All you beams swappers are welcome to put your input...

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: May 26, 2011 - 2:22 AM

[garin]

nice... that will be a nice swap! hope it goes well. what is the warranty like? from whom did you purchase?

[SwissFerdi]

First 3S-GE BEAMS vert ever? Can't wait for the swap.

[njccmd2002]

outsider has the vert.

Japanese star motors

i aint the first..

[Rusty]

that was very kind of you to send me a message. congrates I knew you'd pick this engine. nice to see people going for something different than the typical 3S-GTE swap.
Wheres your AFM did you get one??

I dont know if it'll help or confuse you even more but I have the 3S-GE (3gen) wiring diagram if you want it. (PM me your email) maybe useful for the headlights etc since the gen3 3sge is 4 wires for the TPS.

I know a couple of SS-III BEAMS owners which I can get into contact if you require some help.


so whats the plan??? figure everthing out now wiring etc, then maintance cambelt etc then ready for december swap.

[turnip]

I just spent 20 minutes looking all around mine and the wires that you show cut in the small wire loom I do not believe to be part of the stock harness. Every wire on my harness was in the main bundle and there was no separate wires in loom running parallel to the main harness. Plus I looked around everywhere for that those wire colors together and could not find them going to any plug.

Hope that helps.

[njccmd2002]

thanks guys, unless its some kind of alarm system, have no clue, perhaps looking at the wiring diagram will help. oh well, right now it will collect dust.

Ill take beter pics and ask in the beams forums later on the week

i guess i will be the first vert, since outsider is a hatch, however there are some 5th gen verts running around

[cheela]

awesome! can't wait to see the swap!

[Batman722]

Nice Noberto !

that loom with the 3 wires is not stock, just lose it. That vsv should just plug into the harness over there, look for a matching plug.

if you have any questions about wiring, let me know.

[turnip]

thanks guys, unless its some kind of alarm system, have no clue, perhaps looking at the wiring diagram will help. oh well, right now it will collect dust.

Ill take beter pics and ask in the beams forums later on the week

i guess i will be the first vert, since outsider is a hatch, however there are some 5th gen verts running around

Peel back that loom and lets take a look at the wire a little closer. Lets find out that the previous owner had the night pager electronic blow-off valve speaker setup on his ride. LOL

This post has been edited by turnip: Sep 18, 2009 - 9:11 AM

[njccmd2002]

lol, i went back and your guys are right, i lost those two wires, they are nothing. haha,guess i was too exited yesterday


so far all seems complete until i get the ecu.

now the litlle vacuum hose on the intake, i could not find the place to plug it.

and what about the b-pipe, it does not seem as sturdy as my sfe one, seems like it could be broken


I am already looking at getting another car while this is in the works thats why i cant do it until december. I cant be walking...

or at least until i can save some money so i can rent a car for a week....

[samir0189]

Beaaaaaammmmsss!

[808celica]

The engine looks cherry

[presure2]

Nice.
Good luck with the swap, it's a fun experience. If you need anything, feel free to Pm me.

[BonzaiCelica]

hmm very nice. i wasnt sure which one you were going to get, im sure there are much more redtops out there than trying to find v6 from a camry.

this one isnt automatic is it? i think i remembering you posting up on the beams-redtop forums saying you were going to get an automatic one. I do see shift cables, but i dont kow the difference between automatic and manual shift cables. eh sucks your warranty will run out, Hope everything runs smoothly with install!!

[njccmd2002]

no, this is a manual with lsd, around february i will buy an automatic, cuz they are cheap, sell off the parts and keep the block as a replacement..

yeah, crazy, but its not easy to get parts for these anyways, i could always swap the engine while i fix....

[SwissFerdi]

Wait, you actually want an automatic?

[njccmd2002]

nah, i want to buy an auto engine for spare parts. I love manuals!!

Ill keep my s54 and the auto engine block for a rainy day, the rest will be sold for parts!

[presure2]

nah, i want to buy an auto engine for spare parts. I love manuals!!

Ill keep my s54 and the auto engine block for a rainy day, the rest will be sold for parts!

just FYI, there is no such thing as an "auto engine"
its the tranny that is auto or manual.
the only thing that changes on the engine between auto or manual is that a manual tranny uses a flywheel bolted to the motor, an auto uses a flex plate and torque converter.

[njccmd2002]

yeah what i meant by auto engine is "it comes with all the auto accessories", but the engine block pretty much standard.

I should have said an auto swap. But that will be when i have this engine bolted down.