Manual to power windows!, Workthread, step by step etc Options

[AnaXyd]

Hey there!

Got a ST without power windows, and yeah, its really lame at these days. Its really embarassing to manually slide the windows down, so I have always been thinking of a conversion!

So this is the time, finally. I got my hands on some really nice JDM 93/94 celica doors, with everything. Power windows, power locks, power folding mirrors etc. So I'll got everything I need now, so its basicly to just swap the old ones into these!

But I'll got a European ST, which is LHD. The doors came from a RHD JDM. So its some tweaking with wires.

Basicly I have to do this:

1. Unplug the harnesses from the JDM doors
2. Swith harnesses from side to side (left side goes to right side, and vice versa)
3. Switch panels the same way
4. Switch locks from the original car
5. Unhatch the original doors
6. Mount the new doors
7. Plug in the harness to the car

And this is without ANY problems or trouble. I dont expect it to be as easy as the list, though.

Great resource for JDM Power folding mirrors: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17207
and another one for the power windows: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=59251

And another one for wiring diagrams: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=75461



This post has been edited by AnaXyd: Aug 21, 2010 - 1:31 AM

[AnaXyd]

So, the first day I made progress came!

Unhooked the harness from the JDM doors, and tried to plug it into my car. Both of the plugs fitted, and one of them(the smallest one) had a perfect match to the car! The colors of the wires matched perfectly.

I have checked all the wires, and know that this plug that matched perfectly, is mostly to the power windows. I tried to connect the master switch, and measured the voltage on the connector to the power windows. And YEAH! It came voltage when I used the right button!

So, strange enough, no modification seems to be needed at the power windows point.


Then I need to sort out the power folding mirrors, mirror control and the power lock. Any help will of course be appreciated!

[enderswift]

cool man. a few members tried doing something similar, though I think they went about it the hard way. Post some pictures so we can all enjoy ur project

[AnaXyd]

Update! - Checking JDM harness vs original harness
Since updates with pictures is a lot more interesting, I have taken some this time! Its not too great, and not alot of taking pictures of..


The right side harness unhooked from the door. This will be placed in the left door after testing.



Closer shot on the power mirror control.



Here is my workspace. Since the doors needs to be handled carefully, I use my restroom as a workplace now



The other door.



More pictures.



A shot of the inside of the door



Where I am pointing, is a typical place for rust. The inside of the door, at the bottom is a really exposed place. It is sort of a fabrication failure, since everyone got rust here after some 100.000 km. So this must be fixed.



The power window control.



The plastic panel



And a really used speaker. Look at the membrane!



The mirror control relays, which make the power mirrors work. I didnt get the plug which fits here, so I did a fast custom work here.



It works, until I get the right plug.



Overview.



So, got outside and testet the doors with my car. Plugged in the JDM harness, and one of the plugs were 100% identical.



And yes, the power windows worked 100%!



This another plug, needs a bit of modification, though. This is mostly the mirrors, and maybe a bit of the central locking. Havent figured everything out yet.


Problems: Tried the mirror control too, and it worked 100%. Even at the other side! So some wires must be right at the plug at the last picture. But I noticed a bit of distortion or buzzing in my tweeters when I controlled the mirror at the other side. And the fuel gauge in my gauge cluster were resetted after I tried the harness?



So, yesterday I delivered the doors to reperation and painting, so it will be 100% when I put them on my car!


So I need to figure out the central locking. I'll got a central locking aftermarket kit, so its just plug and play basicly, but I need to know what each of the wires to the central locking do. Looked at the wiring diagram, but I dont understand them 100%, since Im not a electrician.

I also need to swap the mirror control wires. Since I swap the harnesses the R on the mirror control will be L. Its not a big deal, but I want it to be 100%.

[enderswift]

nice progress man. we need more threads like this around here.

weren't those clear plastic door foils a pain to remove? I sure hated taking mine off. Also, my tweeters make a tiny noise when I adjust the mirrors as well, and my setup is all stock. So I think you're fine there

[AnaXyd]

Thank you! I will try to post up everything, to make it easier for other people to do the same mod.

The platic foils is a nasty work indeed. But Im kinda used to them now, so I think I'll got the right technique now. But its really hard to not damage them, since the plastic strech alot when you pull it off.

Okay, the tweeter thing is problably nothing if others have the same problem. The thing that worried me though, was the "reset" on the fuel gauge. Maybe I pulled a plug which was to it, I dont know. But I thought that those fuel cables were in the middle of the car? (Through the middle console and so on)



I have now marked every cable with numbers, and I think the harness is ready to be plugged in to the doors and the car. I must wait for the doors to be repaired (ETA 1 week), so in the meantime I need help with the power locks. Do someone know what each of the cables to the power locks do?

1. WHITE/BLACK - This is ground
2. WHT/BLACK - This is also ground
3. BLUE/BLACK
4. BLUE
5. GREEN
6. BLUE/RED
7. BLUE/WHITE

[Rusty]

great stuff. The layout and reference to other threads are very helpful.


will add this to the stickies when I can

[AnaXyd]

One door 95% finished!
So, time to do some more work on this project. My doors have been to repaint, and I had to wait till yesterday to pick them up.


Here is one of the newly painted doors. Repainted surfaces is sexy!


The things I had to do with one door were:

1. Mount old door handles
2. Mount plastic trims
3. Make my own harness to power folding mirrors
4. Tweak the harness
5. Pull cables to the passenger side
6. Mount the door
7. Mount everything

And this is about 12 hours of work. The work is mainly to figure out the electricial work. The door remount is really easy. 4 bolts, and some cables that need to be pulled away.

- - -

The power folding mirror work

This harness work have to be done in the car. Its so much easier to plug in the harness, and work out the problems from there, since it works a bit unmodified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvBQwsEBxt8
Testing the power folding



Cables makes a real mess in the car.


So the thing we need to do, is to get these parts:
- WHITE boxed relay to power folding mirrors. The text "Mirror Control" are printed on it.
- The plug that fits to this relay
- And of course the harness and mirrors.

If you want do use a harness without power folding mirrors on it, you should check for cables of these colors:
- red/yellow
- green/yellow
- blue/red
- blue/white

This is for the left side harness (JDM) - I am using this harness on my left side. It is different colors on the other side harness.

I cut the cables mentioned above in the list from the plug, and made my own harness from there. My stock car harness (sits under the dash etc) didnt have enough cables in, so this is why I had to do this.

Then we need to extend the harness:



So we start out with some fresh unused cables. This are speaker cables, and will be great.




First we need to solder the unused cables to the door harness.



>>>REALLY<<< imporant to be carefully here, and use shrink tubes. You dont want loose positive cables around in the door.



Flame on!



Some cables done



The harness almost done. The plug at the bottom is the plug which fits in the power folding mirror relay. To be informative, I am soldering the relay plug onto the door harness.



More pictures. Blue/yellow cable is positive, which should be connected to a dome fuse or something. And there is a White/black cable there too, which is ground. Pink is the signal from the power folding button, and all the others are the power to the folding mirror motor.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaYPZJIHp80
Testing my new harness



Almost done



So, I used a plastic tube to protect the harness.



Push the cables inside



99% finished. This is from the relay. The cables at the left side are positive and negative, and the black taped cables at the right are to the passenger side. We want both of the mirrors work, right?


So mainly, it was quite easy work, but time consuming. The cables are color labeled, and I soldered f.ex green/yellow from the door harness to green/yellow at the plug. The things that you need to figure out, is that the blue/yellow cable at the plug are from a positive source, like dome. I mentioned this above, but make sure to make that right.





Other door work

The JDM door mounted and confirmed fitting. Perfect!



The old door.



New door at inside. Need to buy some insulating to this door too!



Testing the power windows



Mounting the power mirrors











Still a mess, but getting closer!



The new plastic piece waiting.



Solder to the dome light. I want som additional lights, so this is perfect to use!



The door almost finished. The door panel are the last step.



This was the additional lights. Nice in the dark, and works when you open the door without the key in!



The door finished.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXluUdGrCfo
95% final product


(How do I make youtube videos show in my post?)




One door closer to... satisfaction?
So, that was one door. Now I know exactly what to do to the other door, so that will be simple. Some problems will always show up, but they will be figured out.

STILL, I havent figured out the central locking. Its impossible for me to just try the cables, because its like 7 cables that goes only to the central locking module in the door. So please, if someone can help me out here! I need to know what each of the cables do:

1. WHITE/BLACK - This is ground
2. WHITE/BLACK - This is also ground
3. BLUE/BLACK
4. BLUE
5. GREEN
6. BLUE/RED
7. BLUE/WHITE

[enderswift]

good stuff man. I like how you're wiring everything with shrink tubing and conduit, very clean.

pm griffgirl about the central locking problem you have. she might be able to help you

[AnaXyd]

Finally...
..after some hours of testing leads, I figured out how to make the lock actuators to work.

6. BLUE/RED
7. BLUE/WHITE

The cables mentioned above are used to make it work. So it works with my aftermarket central locking now, but I really want it to work with the panel too. (The panel where you can lock/unlock the doors with a button close to the power window control)