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> NO 8TH GEN CELICA!!!! MOTORTREND REPORTS ITS TRUE!, WHAA?
post Nov 29, 2003 - 2:57 PM
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The Death of the Celica may mark a new era of toaster vehicles as sales of the Celica slow. This is possibly due to the low price of the Z and the Celica's approching cost of the Z. Initially, Celica sales were up almost 230% from the 6G but sales have reportedly deteriorated.

The death of the Honda Prelude may of influenced Toyota's decision to eliminate the Celica for the 8th generation (in U.S. anyway). What will replace it? Most likely the xC...Toyota Caldina. (or the Corolla hatchback)

More as more develops...

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(I really really hope this ISN'T true)
post Nov 29, 2003 - 4:19 PM
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what pisses me off the most is the fact there still will be celica's just not here in the US.

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post Nov 29, 2003 - 4:28 PM
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Hopefully its not true.


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post Nov 29, 2003 - 4:50 PM
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BS.

Toyota thrives on the Celica. If something gets changed, it'll be a renamed Celica.. kind of like the Integra to RSX type thing.
post Nov 29, 2003 - 5:01 PM
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damn that sucks.. but for some strange reason i don't care... seeing as i might not ever get a new celica.. my next care will for sure be a big more powerful care... but yea it will be sad to see the longest selling car in amreica die..


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post Nov 29, 2003 - 5:04 PM
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What pisses me off is that 3 months ago I heard this from a Toyota exec and no one believed me. Now a magazine publishes the crap 3 months after I knew it was going to be true and now everyone believes it. Kind of funny how that happens...actually I even got b!tched at by Nate telling me I was wrong and sales are so high and will keep growing that they will never stop producing the Celica anytime soon. Oh well, just glad that in the end, I didn't b!tch back when it happened and now I can just laugh I guess. The only thing I have to say is...I told ya so! 3 months ago!


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post Nov 30, 2003 - 3:50 AM
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if it goes down like that, then i think its crap. i always like the style/look of the prelude (i dont know about the specs, but i know its pretty good) and those went down...and now the celica?! whack. oh and how could they possibly hatchback the new corollas???? like a focus or something?! i dunno imo they just wouldnt look right as hatch since the body shape is different.
post Nov 30, 2003 - 3:40 PM
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Caldina is the Matrix, which will have a 3sgte


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post Nov 30, 2003 - 3:49 PM
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2005 Toyota Celica: Significant update with freshened styling and mechanical changes.

thats from motortrend.com... lets hope that this no 8th gen. deal isnt true... I find it odd that if the celica is such a loosing proposition, that they would even bother to freshen the current generation, ya know? The sport compact market is flourishing right now, so isn't it dumb for toyota to turn its back on it now? just my 2 cents...

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post Nov 30, 2003 - 5:56 PM
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sounds to me like toyota is running out the celica... that car has been on the market for a little over 5 years... if there isnt a 06 prototype 8gc... then id say they will probably let it die... which is a real shame, theyre too family focused, they completely forgot about the enthusiast.


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post Nov 30, 2003 - 8:06 PM
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they need to bring back the gt-four celica, it would save everything. a competitive price to compete with subaru and mitsubishi, get back in the rally scene and own the world.
post Nov 30, 2003 - 8:27 PM
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It's true, they're gonna replace it with that Caldina/Scion thing...not sure, looks like a Matrix. Comes in a GT-FOUR version.


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post Nov 30, 2003 - 9:21 PM
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QUOTE (awdturbo @ Nov 30, 2003 - 6:06 PM)
they need to bring back the gt-four celica, it would save everything. a competitive price to compete with subaru and mitsubishi, get back in the rally scene and own the world.

There's no U.S. market for a 2 door AWD turbocharged sports car. That's the big difference maker... the celica is a 2 door sports car... not a 4 door sports sedan. As far as a competitive price goes... gt-4s always were in the 30K range... so that's also very unlikely.

As far as the Caldina, they're not gonna bring the 4wd turbo version, at least it's very unlikely cause that's kinda opposite of the Scion purpose. They'll probably bring over the Euro versions called the Corolla T-Sport. It's essentially the low-end Caldina (cause the caldina comes with a bunch of different powerplants) powered by the 1zzfe (corolla motor) and the 2zzge (Celica GTS motor). This thing is not a matrix. Has 5 door and 3 door versions, is a lot smaller and quicker than the matrix. I think these things look pretty damn good, if you like the Euro sports styling and stuff. These will more than not compete against Civic Hatchbacks and VW GTi's. Also, I've heard things about the Scion xC being a larger sedan... however... all is unknown till the due date.

check out:
http://www.gtstudio.ee/est/projectgallery/corollatsport.htm
For Corolla T-Sport picts... tis a nice looking car...IMO
post Dec 1, 2003 - 12:08 AM
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similar styling to the GTi! german rip-off... but i like!! 2 thumbs up, toyota may sound like theyre retarted, but they always pull something out


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post Dec 1, 2003 - 12:15 AM
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hey i love the look of that corolla t-sport.. wont' mind having one of those parked infront of the house... but has anyone looked at toyotas web site? the added the 2zz-ge to the corolla for next year it's the xrs


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post Dec 1, 2003 - 3:37 PM
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I know snadman but I wasn't really bitchin at you. It was more like a small debate. I didn't want you to take it personally mang! You should know that I don't wanna be mean about it. Hey if i'm wrong im wrong. I'm only human. I've been wrong in the past and ill be wrong in the future. Yea you say something an "exec" says but it just seemed unbelievable at the time. Plus, your story seemed very unlikely. You gotta admit, if you REALLY read it. It DID seem like there were big holes in it. You don't need to laugh...I never laughed at you. Bitch? how did I bitch? just a friendly debate about it. You stated your facts, and I stated mine. I don't see any problem with that. People like to see two sides and then see the outcome. Hey as I said before, if I offended you...well.......sorry! LOL

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post Dec 1, 2003 - 4:11 PM
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Whatever, I ain't really offended just something that made me laugh inside is all. Pissed me off at first but I'm gladthat my earlier comments didn't turn out to be false and that I was right. It's all good in the hood Nate...props to the actual magazine support of what I just heard verbally. I'm glad that Toyota is shifting it's weight, it needs to do soemthing.


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post Dec 1, 2003 - 4:47 PM
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QUOTE (snadman @ Dec 1, 2003 - 4:11 PM)
Whatever, I ain't really offended just something that made me laugh inside is all. Pissed me off at first but I'm gladthat my earlier comments didn't turn out to be false and that I was right. It's all good in the hood Nate...props to the actual magazine support of what I just heard verbally. I'm glad that Toyota is shifting it's weight, it needs to do soemthing.

even though the weight is shifting from the enthusiast to broad market family grocery getters? bah, i dont mind, their doing great, but it seems like theyre leaving the enthusiast nothing to the imagination... no celica? supra talk dying? everything fuel cell?? leave us SOMETHING to stimulate the toyota enthusiast....


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post Dec 1, 2003 - 5:23 PM
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QUOTE (boosted_K2 @ Dec 1, 2003 - 5:47 PM)
QUOTE (snadman @ Dec 1, 2003 - 4:11 PM)
Whatever, I ain't really offended just something that made me laugh inside is all. Pissed me off at first but I'm gladthat my earlier comments didn't turn out to be false and that I was right. It's all good in the hood Nate...props to the actual magazine support of what I just heard verbally. I'm glad that Toyota is shifting it's weight, it needs to do soemthing.

even though the weight is shifting from the enthusiast to broad market family grocery getters? bah, i dont mind, their doing great, but it seems like theyre leaving the enthusiast nothing to the imagination... no celica? supra talk dying? everything fuel cell?? leave us SOMETHING to stimulate the toyota enthusiast....

i read something don't know which mag it was in.. i'm looking though all of them right now... but it said that toyota will be the first company to come out with a fuel cell sports car... and that it most likly be the new supra or some version of it...has anyone else heard or read this?


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post Dec 1, 2003 - 10:02 PM
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Toyota is making great strides and progres with hybrid technology. The new Prius is awesome. I've heard of that theory of the fuelcell/hydrogen etc...So far the only vehicle that has come forward with this technology is Honda with the Honda Dualnote. A quasi-NSX that rates around 400-500HP with 40-50MPG.

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