k series swap? Options

[dliverance]

Ok so I have a friend who owns a Honda shop. He has 3 k series engines laying around. Last night I asked him how much he would sell me one for and he said $300. I was just asking for ****s and grins but it really got my gears going. Right now my plan for the Celica is a Beams. The Beams would cost me some 3k to do properly but if I can swap in a k series and get it running for under 3k, I think It might be a fun project. What do you guys think?

Right now I know the axles, motor mounts, and the whole inverted intake/exhaust manifolds will be an issue. what else should I think about?

[Takumi-FujiWaraS...]

Harness and kpro (Most who do the swap want to tune to get the most reliable power out of it and kpro isn't cheap nor is a tune for it), trans mounts. If it's not a k20a2 (or jdm equivalent) or k24 i wouldn't waste my time the k20a3 isn't impressive at all, you'd be looking at more than 3k unless you can do the fab work yourself the kpro isn't cheap and a tune around here is around for kpro $500+.

I would scrap the idea unless you've got money to burn.

This post has been edited by Takumi-FujiWaraST: Jun 17, 2012 - 1:35 PM

[kurt95gt]

No!!!!!!!! Not a honda motor
If your looking to do a cheaper swap start looking into a toyota v6
Itll have more power that the beams an will cost alot less
My 1mz with harness an computer only cost me 600

[dliverance]

The kpro can come later. My buddy can tune the pro and he has a dyno in the shop so I'm not too worried about that. The trans mount shouldn't be too difficult to fab up. I'll have to see which k series motors he has tho.

Kurt, That might be something to look into. I'm gonna have to look into your build thread.

[Takumi-FujiWaraS...]

For $600ish i would go with what kurt has said/done even if it cost you a bit more.

[dliverance]

Damn theres a 1mz for sale locally on craigs for $450

[kurt95gt]

I ive got around 3000 in my swap but thats due to alot of trial an error
Ive got probably around 2500 in what i realky needed an that includes a engine hoist an tein drop springs an a few other little non swap related parts

[zfjohnson07]

How much horse does the 1mz have, what's ur gas mileage like, and was it easy to get it, I'm trying to read your thread but am on my phone

[Lil-Joe101]

Tho as interesting as it seems, cross breeding Honda and Toyota parts, specificly a motor, is considered a mortal sin in my my eyes. Shun the Honda tuner, shuunnn, ssshhhhhhhuuuunnnnnn, lol.

But seriously if u think u can make it work go for it. dff would be an interesting build/thread to fallow granted it gets completed.

This post has been edited by Lil-Joe101: Jun 17, 2012 - 3:21 PM

[dliverance]

I know it's blasphemy. Even my GF said she doesn't want my car to sound like a lawn mower.

[Lil-Joe101]

I know it's blasphemy. Even my GF said she doesn't want my car to sound like a lawn mower.

Yeah why are more and more Honda's sounding this way? My Accord and CRX both had deep tones. Wut gives? Its so annoying.

[kurt95gt]

How much horse does the 1mz have, what's ur gas mileage like, and was it easy to get it, I'm trying to read your thread but am on my phone

Its only got around 200hp but its got alot higher torque( cant remember how much at the moment)

according to my obd2 scanner my mpgs is aright around 36 at highway speeds
But ive only been able to put about 160 mile on her so far
But i only used alil over a 1/4 tank doing so an that wad with some aggressive driving mixed in

[dliverance]

wheel horsepower?

[zfjohnson07]

Was it hard to put in

[kurt95gt]

I beleave its whp not 100% thoan it wasnt hard to put in at all
no different than anyother motor lol

[BonzaiCelica]

problem with a k20 or 2zz swap is the fact that the header will run right into your power steering rack. since header is on t he back side of the engine and intake manifold towards the front where the radiator is

[Redmann813]

peak bhp and torque for the 1mz are both around 200

[zfjohnson07]

Does it feel like 200 or more since its light?

[kurt95gt]

Depends on how your driving it
At small light throttle inputs it feels like a 5s
But get alittle throttle happy an she put you in the seat in every gear

[zfjohnson07]

well, after reading your project thread, i think ill just stick with getting a short block and fixing my 7afe, and then in a year or so put a 3sgte in it.