Rebuild SSS (Super Strut Suspension), SSS Options

[Wild202]

I brought to you how I solved the problem with a thud on the suspension arms SSS.
I really like to use it SSS suspension arms, because I had the opportunity to compare with McPherson suspension, because like last machine was ST-202.
But after the purchase, I discovered a terrible knock on all the front suspension, which has been difficult to locate.
I started to deal with this problem.

This post has been edited by Wild202: Apr 13, 2018 - 3:20 AM

[Rusty]

This may help diagnose your problem...

For A and B typical replacement kilometres is around 80-120k. but driving style and suspension set up and roads driven on can alter that.
Aftermarket and rebuilt ball joints tend to not last as long, often requiring replacement within 6 months. Even sooner with stiffer springs and shocks by putting more stress on the joints. (So how much is that going to cost you in the long run to maintain it???)

Came across a checklist for checking Super strut. Since it has extra linkages. It causes some issues when trying to diagnose noises in the suspension as it can be hard to pin point which joint has worn.

CHECKING SUPERSTRUT SUSPENSION
- Jack up front of car, remove front wheels.
- take hold of the spring perch (where the bottom of the spring sits) with both hands.
- try to twist the strut.
If the strut doesn't twist, the super strut joints on that side are ok.
If the strut twists (you should be able to see movement in the short s/s arm joints)....
- 1-2mm (measured at the edge of the spring perch) means it will probably pass a warrant but will need replacing quite soon. You might be able to just notice the car wandering a bit when driving over changing road camber or when braking/accelerating.
- more than 2 mm it will probably fail a warrant, it will need replacing. The car will wander over changing road surfaces and change direction noticeably when accelerating or braking. You will know something is wrong!

S/S joints have a huge load on them, from accelerating, braking and going over bumps. The front s/s control arm has a short arm that connects to the suspension strut. The suspension strut has a ball joint that locates the top of the steering knuckle/hub. If the joints at either end of the short arm become worn the suspension strut can rotate. If it rotates it causes the top of the steering knuckle to move forwards or backwards (due to bumps, accelerating or braking). This causes the wheel to point out a bit or in a bit, causing the car to wander left or right without you moving the steering wheel. This can be very dangerous!

STRANGE NOISES?
Creaking noise? Often in Super strut cars the creaking isn't the lower link arm. I've driven a GTZ with super strut with totally rooted lower link arm and it didn't make a noise! It just wandered across the road!

If the lower link arm is shagged - only put in Toyota genuine new!!! Anything else wears out in about 5,000km! (Cost might be a bit more but you won't regret it.)

[Wild202]

Thanks for your reply.
I solved this problem. I will show you now.

That suspension arms
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...YzRZYV9aX2F6MU0

[Wild202]

Then, all saws and autopsied.
We take out the insides.
The photo shows the condition of joints and bushings fingers under which they operate.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...bWt0czloQURlVTg


This post has been edited by Wild202: Jan 11, 2017 - 1:00 PM

[Wild202]

More photos bushings who worked in arms:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...Rkh6Z3prdGt6NzQ

[Wild202]

handle fingers leverage hinges.
Grinding, but not too much because there is a certain depth of hardening. Finger in soft and hard top.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...Sk9lTzZsRFFRT1k

[Wild202]

Continue.
Here are a few photos that would understand the process of revival of suspension arms:
In the photo on the link seen all kinds of plugs, which are used within the arms. This new hub made using the machine with numerical control software.
This complete set of bushes
For service suspension arms SSS.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...dEltWlRkTnlQVm8

This post has been edited by Wild202: Jan 14, 2017 - 12:37 AM

[Wild202]

More photos manufacture bushings process.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...VEhwN21OazB0VjQ

[Wild202]

General view of the SSS control arms before the assembly (couples details in the photo is not enough, but you can understand the scale).
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...Ny0wMlVlM1NVcVk

[Wild202]

Photos ready suspension arms SSS:
Myself I levers did three years ago.
In the photo one of many of my works.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...MC1FTHMwM2hpMnM

[The_enD]

nice stuff

[slavie]

That is a lot of work. Looks like you had to break the joints apart, and then machine your own parts to put them back together?

How are the rebuilt parts holding up long term?

[Wild202]

nice stuff

Thank you

[Wild202]

That is a lot of work. Looks like you had to break the joints apart, and then machine your own parts to put them back together?

How are the rebuilt parts holding up long term?

Yes, of course I make out, I have made a new sleeve for ball joints. Then all I gathered back. The work there is really a lot.
Even more accurate measurements and tolerances.
As I said earlier, I made my suspension arms 3 years ago, since that time I have and go. The machine is used every day in summer and winter.

[Wild202]

Here's another example embodiment.
There are replacement of bushings in the suspension arm banana (yellow polyurethane).
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B55...aHRuS2ZYUm9YZm8

[Wild202]

Now, I do not change my suspension arms on the my ST-205.
I just unscrew the rear cover and changing the worn bushing on the new, I put the new lubricant and spins back. And I have a new suspension arms again.

[Wild202]

I apologize for my clumsy English. If anything is unclear, or have any questions, I will try to answer.

[BonzaiCelica]

http://www.gt4-racing.eu/index.php/toyota-...suspension-arms

[Wild202]

http://www.gt4-racing.eu/index.php/toyota-...suspension-arms

Yes, I know about these guys from Poland.

[The_enD]

Do you sell any of this? Or just for you?