 Progress thread: 3VZ-F(T)E V6 Swap into my 94 GT, The V6 RUNS! |
 Mar 9, 2010 - 6:50 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%)  |
I've been talkin about a 3VZ swap for quite some time now (~3yrs).
I found a fairly decent, non-running, 94 GT last july for $300. Beautiful interior and everything, only a dent in the drivers door, and a broken bumper (which i have a few spares..) Soo I picked up a manual 92 ES300 a few months ago as a donor car for my swap  I've been driving it and good god the motor is a beast. the torque is there 100% of the time - even at 2000 rpm. The intake sounds like a pissed off Porsche. After feeling a 3s swap(DEATH) and driving the lex, i think it should produce about the same results, if not better, stock for stock. now adding the turbo should up my power even more considerably since i have 50% more displacement over the 3s. This motor redlines at 6600 and fuel cuts at 7200rpm, but falls on its face around 5600-5800RPM - comparable to the 7a. I'm thinking a good turbo will alleviate that problem i washed the engine recently and somehow killed the AFM so when i swap I'm going megasquirt EMS will reduce a lot of clutter in the engine bay and clean up sensors, even making it easier to turbo later. 4BAR map W/ baro correction.  From Wiki: "The 1992–1993 engine has 185 hp (138 kW) at 5800 rpm and 189 ft·lbf (256 N·m) at 4600 rpm. 1994+ have 200 hp (149 kW) at 5800 rpm and 204 ft·lbf (277 N·m) at 4600 rpm. There is no mechanical difference in the engine. In an embarrassing move, Toyota inadvertently created an engine competing with the more performance oriented 7M-GE (200 hp) and 2JZ-GE (225 hp) installed in sportier, more luxurious cars of the time. Because of this; the stock ignition timing and fueling was noticeably detuned. The power spread of the 3VZ-FE is wide, having 100% torque between 2500–4600 rpm, with power trailing off by 6000 rpm. Stock redline is 6600 rpm, and the ECU's fuel/ignition cut is 7200 rpm." "The 3VZ-FE has a larger forged steel crankshaft and large cast rods. They can handle double the stock power output, although forged pistons & rods are recommended. A few nitrous and turbocharged examples match or exceed 450 hp (336 kW) on both the stock engine and engine management with a piggyback chip controlling fuel & ignition." FOR NON-READERS Engine: 92 ES300 with 3VZFE E53 (E153) Transmission && LSD 185HP & 189TQ Receiving car: 94 White GT Auto Tranny (not for long..) no longer auto! Megasquirt EMS Turbo plans in place Shopping List:
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This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Feb 9, 2012 - 9:28 AM -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 9, 2010 - 6:54 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '09 From Westport, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
should be a fun thread to watch, keep us updated!
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Mar 9, 2010 - 7:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Nice! Pics of the donor car and swap recipient?
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Mar 9, 2010 - 8:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Mar 9, 2010 - 6:16 PM)  Nice! Pics of the donor car and swap recipient? will have those up when I get my digicam workin
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 9, 2010 - 9:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 18, '06 From cincinnati Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
i'm doubly interested, see if you have any luck finding a way to TT that beast...
 interested in intake/exhaust manifold(s) pictures -------------------- proud =3sgte SWAPPED= '95 Celica ST owner [calling it the GT2 or half-trac]
309,000 miles n' .... |
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Mar 10, 2010 - 8:35 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Not going TT. I believe a single turbo over/in front of the tranny w/ a similar W2A setup as stephs 7AFTE. Nice short charge piping and reduced lag
. I'm going to have fun designing and building the manifold forthis beast lol.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 10, 2010 - 10:10 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '06 From Los Alamos, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Victoria isnt a far drive! let me know how this is going and maybe ill be able to come into town and help ya work on it!
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 28, '09 From Milwaukee, WI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
[I am definitely going to watch this thread. I plan on doing a 1mz swap in the near future myself..... Later on adding a monster turbo............
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Mar 10, 2010 - 9:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
uploading pics now!
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 10, 2010 - 10:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '08 From dallas texas Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i promise i wont threadjack but i have some questions...
seems like a lot of rwd people (i think of 350/70z in particular-also ppl who actually track their car) going with a supercharger on these big v-6s rather than a turbo or tt setup... my question is why? the rwd can actually handle the power of a big turbo... is this just because of a consistent powerband the s/c offers? yet seems like a lot of fwd people choose a turbo set up... why did you choose a turbo over s/c build? seems like a supercharger would give you the 250ish (rounding) hp you would need and subsequent torque, and you wouldnt have to worry about traction issues since it is fwd... also less plumbing and reliability basically i see rwd big motor cars s/c and 4 banger fwd turboing- in my mind it would be reversed. my question again, is why? can anyone enlighten? |
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Mar 10, 2010 - 10:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
i believe its about room/piping in the engine bay. fwd usually has more room than rwd. i chose turbo because it offeres more power than just a s/c. its more personal preferences than anything
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 10, 2010 - 11:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 28, '07 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
this should be an awesome thread...cant wait
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Mar 10, 2010 - 11:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
i cant even wait lol..
so i believe i need: all ST205 mounts ST205 shift cables camry inner axles st185 outter axles spacers for axles and a custom mount/adaptor plate on passenger side? am i missing anything? -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 11, 2010 - 12:19 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 3, '04 From torrance, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good luck with the swap. I look forward to the results! Btw, I like how it has a giant smile lol.
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Mar 11, 2010 - 8:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (hellsyphon @ Mar 10, 2010 - 11:19 PM) Good luck with the swap. I look forward to the results! Btw, I like how it has a giant smile lol. haha. It's cause she's so happy to have a worthy motor in her! -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 12, 2010 - 1:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
added pics and "shopping list"
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 16, 2010 - 12:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 18, '06 From cincinnati Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
oh i might be able to help you with your shopping list. i have stock gt4 shift cables and a gt4 passenger motor mount (left side if you're looking at the car)
great motor choice BTW, i did my hw too and ppl seem to love it -------------------- proud =3sgte SWAPPED= '95 Celica ST owner [calling it the GT2 or half-trac]
309,000 miles n' .... |
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Mar 16, 2010 - 8:32 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
i'll be making some purchases soon
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 23, 2010 - 11:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Bought a few items off my list! took pics of donor car. will upload later
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '09 From Westport, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
any pics of the doner? lol
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