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post Jan 6, 2007 - 4:04 PM
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At last I had some time for another upgrade. Steering wheel swap... My stock one was 4-spoke with airbag/horn in the middle.
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Just history now biggrin.gif. Since today I have this one wink.gif genuine 7th gen. Celica/91-04 MR2 st. wheel.
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Although horn mechanism and airbag connector were different everything is working now. And I'll try describe here how generally do that... believe it will be handy for anyone wink.gif

step no one: remove old steering wheel
Two screws on sides (behind small covers) holds airbag part
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There are just two plugs inside. That yellow one is for airbag and white is horn (there is possibility also for cruise multi switch, where are many more wires. Horn wire is black, every time that last on right connected to wheel body)
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When you unplug everything + unscrew nut in the middle you should remove wheel with puller (w/o that it's not possible at all)
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step two: solving airbag connection
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Different airbag connector means find right module (spiral) for it...
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...or use same airbag refill wink.gif
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Of course... some customization should be done if airbag refill has different size (more are different, more custom work is needed). My one was just bit different... and airbag part was easy take into parts.
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step three: solving horn connection
This step depends on type of horn you have. However every time it's about find how horn mechanism works, cut black wire off old wheel and connect it somewhere... It really depends on that horn mechanism. However it's really easy, just one wire to screw... somewhere wink.gif.

step four: piece everything together
Installation of new wheel body (with same center bore of course) is easy...
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...and in my case screw horn cable to airbag body (not wheel body like stock one)...and all finished biggrin.gif.
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post Jan 6, 2007 - 4:16 PM
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Very nice thumbsup.gif


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post Jan 6, 2007 - 4:18 PM
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very nice guide. this will be very helpful to the 6gc community. thanks!
post Jan 6, 2007 - 7:46 PM
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nice i like it a lot. How much did you get the stearing wheel for?


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post Jan 7, 2007 - 12:35 AM
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Nice Job Martin thumbsup.gif


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post Jan 7, 2007 - 2:39 AM
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thanks for posts and PMs. Here is additional info:

7th gen/MR2/MR-S st. wheel. Where and how much?: I have that st. wheel from e-bay for 250USD (here is another one, red stitched wink.gif)
Why not "how-to article"?: Yes, this should be "how to swap 7th gen st. wheel" article, but only for Euro models. Thanks to snapshotgt I know you have bit different wiring in US (because of that cruise control switch). Euro celicas don't have that at all... That means in US you must swap also that switch -> customize body of that new wheel (cut some hole or anything) and mount it somewhere (some screws in right place???). That's why I rather call it "guide" wink.gif
Is airbag really works? Are you sure?: Yes, airbag really works. When you turn keys on, every time runs "airbag-check" (airbag control light on for a while). If it's something wrong with check, control lights all the time. That's why I'm sure... Of course second way to prove it is crash biggrin.gif.
Do you have part # of that 7th gen module? Will it work in 6gen celi?: par number is not problem wink.gif 84306-32030. And, no I'm not sure it will work with 6gen celica... frown.gif. I don't have that module (I didn't want to spend another 50USD), it's just a general option and possible way to try.


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post Jan 7, 2007 - 4:55 PM
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Nice swap dude! That 7th gen steering wheel looks 100x better!


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post Jan 7, 2007 - 10:53 PM
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aww. i guess i wont be doing it. US import cars are gay.


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Excellent work, congrats!!!!

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post Feb 10, 2007 - 9:19 AM
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Which size is the puller?
100mm, 150mm or 200 mm ?
Need to know asap because Im removing my steering wheel right now : )
post Feb 10, 2007 - 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(CelicaSweden @ Feb 10, 2007 - 3:19 PM) [snapback]525678[/snapback]

Which size is the puller?
100mm, 150mm or 200 mm ?
Need to know asap because Im removing my steering wheel right now : )


That one I have is 3'' (cca 76mm)


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post Feb 11, 2007 - 3:16 AM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ Feb 10, 2007 - 10:43 AM) [snapback]525686[/snapback]

QUOTE(CelicaSweden @ Feb 10, 2007 - 3:19 PM) [snapback]525678[/snapback]

Which size is the puller?
100mm, 150mm or 200 mm ?
Need to know asap because Im removing my steering wheel right now : )


That one I have is 3'' (cca 76mm)


okey, is that a speciel one for just our celi or is it a universal tool ?
post Feb 11, 2007 - 3:28 AM
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QUOTE(CelicaSweden @ Feb 11, 2007 - 9:16 AM) [snapback]525876[/snapback]

QUOTE(malpaso @ Feb 10, 2007 - 10:43 AM) [snapback]525686[/snapback]

QUOTE(CelicaSweden @ Feb 10, 2007 - 3:19 PM) [snapback]525678[/snapback]

Which size is the puller?
100mm, 150mm or 200 mm ?
Need to know asap because Im removing my steering wheel right now : )


That one I have is 3'' (cca 76mm)


okey, is that a speciel one for just our celi or is it a universal tool ?

universal one bought in local store...


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7th gen/MR2/MR-S st. wheel. Where and how much?: I have that st. wheel from e-bay for 250USD (here is another one, red stitched )
Why not "how-to article"?: Yes, this should be "how to swap 7th gen st. wheel" article, but only for Euro models. Thanks to snapshotgt I know you have bit different wiring in US (because of that cruise control switch). Euro celicas don't have that at all... That means in US you must swap also that switch -> customize body of that new wheel (cut some hole or anything) and mount it somewhere (some screws in right place???). That's why I rather call it "guide"


Now what if i took out the cruise control.. does that mean i dont need to mod the new wheel or do i still need to put that dead switch in the new wheel???
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QUOTE(Excursion745 @ Feb 12, 2007 - 5:18 AM) [snapback]526071[/snapback]

Now what if i took out the cruise control.. does that mean i dont need to mod the new wheel or do i still need to put that dead switch in the new wheel???

If you will remove cruise control (that means you will not use it in your car anymore) you should do same steps like I did, plus:

1. remove cruise control switch (for sure it should be removed)
2. modify wiring harness (same plug is used for horn and cruise control switch -> you must cut anything but horn).

For example:
In picture below is plug (white, bottom of picture) and 4 wires. White, white+black-stripe, red, black. That black is horn (must stay) rest you should cut, because those are wires for cruise.
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post Feb 27, 2007 - 10:56 PM
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I was lucky enough to get my hands on some 7th gen parts at a good price biggrin.gif

from this

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and about an hour later this

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sorry about the night pic, but I just finished. I'll get some day pics tomorrow or so.

Martin, the way I did it was easier than the way you did - no airbag repacking, just a splice here and there wink.gif also, I used the 7th gen cruise switch (it's wired different than the 6th gen) so I'm 99% sure it works, I just need to road test it.


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post Feb 27, 2007 - 11:13 PM
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nice. now i'm really thinking about doing this mod. what did you do different from martin's how-to?


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post Feb 28, 2007 - 1:43 AM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 28, 2007 - 4:56 AM) [snapback]531085[/snapback]

I was lucky enough to get my hands on some 7th gen parts at a good price biggrin.gif
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Martin, the way I did it was easier than the way you did - no airbag repacking, just a splice here and there wink.gif also, I used the 7th gen cruise switch (it's wired different than the 6th gen) so I'm 99% sure it works, I just need to road test it.

I'm glad someone had all parts from 7th gen (particularly 7th gen module/spiral) and made it different way...

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So, am I understand right, you have used that module and it works even with cruise control??? More info please!!! smile.gif


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post Feb 28, 2007 - 8:52 AM
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the 7th gen clockspring (spiral) does not fit in the 6th gen. I simpily cut the connector off the 7th gen spiral and used it on my 6th gen one. Both have 2 wires, blue/black and yellow. It made the swap a 15-30min job. As for the cruise it get's a little tricky. The 7th gen switch has 2 wires from it (red and white) and the 6th gen has 3 (red, white, and white w/black stripe). You just have to find the right combination of 2 wires. I tried a few before I got it, I think it was w/bck to white, and white to red (from 6 to 7)


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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 28, 2007 - 2:52 PM) [snapback]531202[/snapback]

the 7th gen clockspring (spiral) does not fit in the 6th gen. I simpily cut the connector off the 7th gen spiral and used it on my 6th gen one. Both have 2 wires, blue/black and yellow....

yea... but you have 50% chance to connect it bad an deploy it wink.gif. Any way to be sure which one is which?

I had black/red on 7th gen and red/red on 6th gen... kindasad.gif

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post Feb 28, 2007 - 11:20 AM
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Martin NO !!! I cut here wink.gif not the bag connection itself

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I had the 7th gen spiral wthat connects to the 7th gen airbag, the piece you didn't have wink.gif


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cunning wink.gif


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post Feb 28, 2007 - 2:27 PM
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There is also a 6th gen steering wheel that looks like that. Mine came with it. The only difference is the center part where the airbag is has embossed Toyota symbol and texture that matches our interior. I have seen them in junkyards before. This should make a much easier swap I would think although I haven't tried it [obviously]. Here is a pic of my stock steering wheel:
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Sorry it's crooked but that was the only shot of the wheel that I had. Also several other cars came with it like Supra for instance if you can find one.


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post Feb 28, 2007 - 2:41 PM
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correct. The 98-99s had a 3 spoke also. IMO the 7th gen airbag looks better and is a lot easier to find.


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post Feb 28, 2007 - 6:07 PM
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and some more pics

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I still need to clean and shine it up but I think you guys get the point.


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are all 7th gen steering wheels the same? do any come with leather?
i have a spare 3-spoke non-airbag 6th gen steering wheel from my sister's 94 6th gen and that wasn't wrapped in leather.. the wheel is thick and has a lot less grip.
anyway, my search for the jdm cf supra wheel continues.....


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QUOTE(azian_advanced @ Mar 1, 2007 - 8:25 AM) [snapback]531611[/snapback]

are all 7th gen steering wheels the same? do any come with leather?
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ehm... my one is leather biggrin.gif

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So is my stock 3 post. Well pleather or whatever Toyota uses LOL.


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QUOTE(azian_advanced @ Mar 1, 2007 - 2:25 AM) [snapback]531611[/snapback]

are all 7th gen steering wheels the same? do any come with leather?

do they all fit the same with the airbag ? yes. There are 3 7th gen wheels that I know of.

the leather wrapped wheel as Martin pictured

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the non-leather wheel that I have

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and the leather wrapped GT-S wheel

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I went with the non leather because I had removed my leather interior (seats/wheel/knob) and went with more of a cleaner look IMO, just keeping it simple and more subtle. I have seen so many leather wheels and knobs showing their age being worn and I'd rather not deal with that issue a few years down the road.


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even though o wasn't replacing my steering wheel, I was fixing my horn, this helped a great deal...Thanks...btw i took my pillow off without a puller...
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I really want one. To bad there aren't any available here in Holland for a descent price. I dont need the airbag but no junkyard will sell without and asking price = 400 euro's (550 USD)


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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 27, 2007 - 10:56 PM) [snapback]531085[/snapback]

I was lucky enough to get my hands on some 7th gen parts at a good price biggrin.gif

Martin, the way I did it was easier than the way you did - no airbag repacking, just a splice here and there wink.gif also, I used the 7th gen cruise switch (it's wired different than the 6th gen) so I'm 99% sure it works, I just need to road test it.


Hi, have you made a write-up/how-to on the swap process?

Does the 7th gen steering column bolt right up?

What wires and where do you splice?

Did the cruise control work properly?

Thanks, really want to do this on my car!
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Found Myself a nice Leather 7th gen steering wheel completely intact. Cant wait to put it on. Since I dont have a Wheel Puller I will pay Mr T a visit and lend it there laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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Anyone know if the 6th gen cruise control switch will mount into the 7th gen wheel (US).

Thanks
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QUOTE(dutchboy @ Jul 25, 2007 - 11:48 AM) [snapback]582133[/snapback]

Anyone know if the 6th gen cruise control switch will mount into the 7th gen wheel (US).

Thanks

IMO it will. It's just about one screw to fit...


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Is the back side of the 7th gen wheel metal or plastic? Tan corolla 3-spokes are fairly common/cheap, if metal, paint will look pretty good, then I can re-upholster the grips whatever color I want.
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Now all you have to do is test the airbag to see if it works. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No, really, very nice mod. I would be scared to do this, epecially messing with the airbag module.

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Nice write-up, man.

Just out of curiosity, if I were to purchase a momo wheel in the near future (and yes I would have the hub adapter), how difficult would it be to install? Obviously there would be no issue with wiring the airbag but has anyone installed an aftermarket steering wheel?


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QUOTE(Negative @ Feb 28, 2007 - 2:27 PM) [snapback]531328[/snapback]

There is also a 6th gen steering wheel that looks like that. Mine came with it. The only difference is the center part where the airbag is has embossed Toyota symbol and texture that matches our interior. I have seen them in junkyards before. This should make a much easier swap I would think although I haven't tried it [obviously]. Here is a pic of my stock steering wheel:
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Sorry it's crooked but that was the only shot of the wheel that I had. Also several other cars came with it like Supra for instance if you can find one.



Slightly OT but how come there's a GT-2 sticker on your cruise control, is that how you turn the car into attack mode? smile.gif
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Taking the thread back from the dead lol….

Quick question here… what if i currently own a momo steering with adapter… and want to put a 7th gen ? My car is a GT-S with SRS… so i have the yellow plug hanging… but if i buy a 7th gen steering, the SRS plug from it wont fit my 6th gen one… what can i do ? I dont have the stock steering with srs anymore…


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take the momo steering of, and show us a picture. you can still put the steering, the airbag wont be functional.

you need to get the plug otherwise you cant use it.


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quick question, is there any special process when disconnecting the airbag? i know some cars you have to disconnect the battery and let set for like a half hour before you disconnect it, then there are some that you can disconnect no problem. just got an NRG wheel that i'll be installing in the next week or two and don't want an airbag in the face when i go to do the install.
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do the safest, disconnect the battery.


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will do. i get spoiled with the mercedes airbags where i can just unplug them and not worry about it.
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any other precautions before starting...? like discharging the battery from the terminal and taking a fuse out so that the airbag will not deploy? Any other precautions, please let us know. Thanks


I'd hate for something to go wrong.



Otherwise nice DYI post
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QUOTE (deliriouzgtfour @ Apr 14, 2009 - 7:41 AM) *
any other precautions before starting...? like discharging the battery from the terminal and taking a fuse out so that the airbag will not deploy? Any other precautions, please let us know. Thanks


I'd hate for something to go wrong.



Otherwise nice DYI post

What I did is only disconnecting battery. Nothing else. No fuses, no nothing else.


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fixed my horn. On the other hand, wire was torn inside for the horn. Thanks malpaso. Anyone willing to do the 7th gen wheel swap for me? Ill pay someone..haha
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took the airbag off this morning to speed up the process of changing out the wheel possibly tonight. just waiting on the hub from sparco that is supposed to be coming in today. can't wait to get the new wheel and quick release on for this weekend's rallyx.
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as long as the 7th gen wheel you get comes with the airbag components, you can wire it up with your stock gt-s airbag harness as mentioned in the how-to.


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oh, i'm not putting in a toyota wheel, i'm putting in a NRG wheel with quick release. i will not have an airbag, don't want an airbag to the face while taking the car off sweet jumps in a rally.
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Hey I'm having a hard time trying to put the steering back...

You know where there is the bolt that holds the steering like here in the middle...


well i dont really know how to explain it but the thing on which you put the bolt it kinda shape in a star patern and so is the steering but i cant align those two properly so the steering wont go as far as it's suppose too... thus i can easily remove it...

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well its a little late for this now, but what i have in my tool box at work is a sharpie. whenever i have to change out a steering angle sensor, i mark the 12 o'clock position on the main steering shaft and the wheel so i get the wheel put back on in the right spot. all you can do at this point is count how many turns it takes to go from complete left to complete right, then divide that by 2. it should get approximately where you need it. i would start there and see what you can do. i'd recommend putting the front on jack stands to make it easy to turn the wheel without the car on and that way its easier to take off and put on the wheel in the spot you need without turning the car on.

hope that helps and if there's anything else i may be able to help you with, give me a holler.
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yeah the wheel is supposed to be very tight.. use an impact gun to bolt it in or get a big socket 24mm and up and put it around the bolt so it sits on the wheel and carefully hammer it in place.. i dunno just throwing out some ideas...


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QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Apr 23, 2009 - 12:25 AM) *
yeah the wheel is supposed to be very tight.. use an impact gun to bolt it in or get a big socket 24mm and up and put it around the bolt so it sits on the wheel and carefully hammer it in place.. i dunno just throwing out some ideas...


it didn't look that big, maybe a 17mm. impact gun works awesome, but if you're in a pinch, a long handled ratchet or breaker bar will do while you hold onto the wheel tight.

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That's the thing... i have a garage, impact gun and a big ass compressor but my car is at home ... without the steering! F*** I guess i'll have to try with the ratchet (then if its tight enough i'll be able to drive all the way to my garage...)

And Windowlicker, i know about the mark but i'm putting a new steering on!


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what's the part number for the clock spring....all i have is just the steering wheel without it...would it be best just to find a 7th gen clock spring? is that all i need and just splicing?
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I did this today.

Was really easy, I didnt **** with the airbag refill, I just changed the connector on the current spiral to the new, was fast and easy.


Here is pic:




You don't want to know how much I got it for.

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i got a question if you swap wheels with one thats not airbag is that illegal? will it pass inspection? someone told me it depends on the year of the car that 94+ must have driver airbag........my home state is texas if that makes a diff?


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here's some pics of the nrg wheel, nrg quick release, and the sparco hub installed. i really like the position of it as i won't have to be reaching for it when i have the seat reclined in order for me to fit in the car with a helmet on. still need to figure out how to wire up the horn, but i'm lazy....lol



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QUOTE (Dragondog @ Jun 5, 2009 - 2:57 AM) *
i got a question if you swap wheels with one thats not airbag is that illegal? will it pass inspection? someone told me it depends on the year of the car that 94+ must have driver airbag........my home state is texas if that makes a diff?



i'd check your state's dmv website and see if anything is on there about it or go to your local inspection shop and ask them. that would be your best bet because a lot of the time people just go off what they hear and it may or may not be the truth. better to hear it from whoever is making the laws or doing the inspections. good luck.
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ok, i finished wiring the horn in last weekend, so i'll post up what i did in case any of you guys do an aftermarket wheel like me. i used an NRG steering wheel with an NRG quick release and a SPARCO steering wheel hub. for connectors, i used 2 eyelet connectors and an inline splice connector. the reason i used the inline splice connector was in case i want to put the stock wheel back in, i didn't FUBAR the wiring or stock connector. plus its easy to put in and take off if needed.





there were two wires on the quick release and steering wheel horn button, but there was only one wire on the hub. basically i ended up using the one wire from the hub as the positive (signal wire) for the horn, and then i used one of the eyelet connectors on the black wire from the quick release as the ground. i grounded it via one of the screws that attaches the quick release to the hub. there is a metal shim that goes between the quick release and the hub, so you will need to take some cutters and trim out a notch big enough for the connector.



after you get the quick release or wheel firmly attached to the hub, you'll want to move onto locating the signal wire for the horn at the connecter by the steering column. its the green wire at the end of the connector. an easy way to make sure is to take a short piece of wire, slide one end in the connector which is the contact for the green wire and ground it out. if you have the right wire, the horn will beep. i highly recommend doing this with the key out of the ignition. it will work without the key, and the reason i recommend doing it with the key off is so you don't short to ground a different circuit and fry it.


now you're going to need to make a wire that will go from the green wire to the back of the hub. there is a contact area that you need to touch the signal wire to. the contact is the gold colored ring that allows you to keep contact while the wheel is turning.
in order to keep the signal wire contacting the gold ring on the back of the hub, i made a bracket that will constantly touch the gold ring. i made it from a piece of scrap metal i had laying around. it is important to make a smooth curve to the side that will contact the ring, as you don't want to scrape the hell out of the ring, which will lead to wear and a scraping noise.




the part in between my fingers is the part that touches the gold ring.

now you'll want to cut some 16 gauge wire (keep very close to the same size wire as what is at the connector from the steering column) to about 5". on one end you will want to put the second eyelet connector. the end with nothing on it is where you will use the inline splice connector at the green wire.


as for a place to put the bracket i made to contact the gold ring, i am just using the attaching point where the stock clock spring (steering angle sensor) screwed in, and i used the screw from the clock spring as well. sandwich the eyelet connector from the wire and the bracket, then tighten down the screw.



make sure that the curve is directed to make the smoothest path on the gold ring and make sure there is decent tension on the bracket.




don't forget to double check your work through the process and keep checking to see if the horn works through the process. if you keep checking as you go, then the less you have to back track if you make a mistake. it's pretty simple and easy though.
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Will this swap from f.ex the Celica T23 to T20 actually work if you collide? Have somebody checked this?
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I just swapped a 99 rav4 wheel into my 5th gen (looks like a 98-99 celica 3 spoke). The 5th gen cruise control switch is an analog device as far as I can tell, with 4 wires on it. The Rav4 switch was a 2 wire digital. So I had to reuse my switch. It fits half decent using two of the holes already in the new wheel. Had to make a little bracket out of a peice of metal that I had but that was it. I thought I was going to be able to put the charge from my 5th gen airbag into the new wheel but it's much bigger than a 6th gen airbag like is pictured at the start of this thread, so no go. I could cut and splice the wires but I'm afraid that the trigger system is different so I decided it was safer just to leave the airbag out. I yanked the airbag light from the dash as well as the ABS light which I also have permanently disabled.

All in all it looks pretty good and the 1" smaller wheel makes for much quicker handling. Can't find the card for my camera or I would have taken pictures for all this but if anyone needs to see what I did with the cruise control switch I can get a picture of it.
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GUYS!!.. i want to share a very very important information with you guys that i just discovered just now!!.. i can confirm this.. coz its working on my car now.. for all you guys that have the gen7 steering wheel n want the cruise control to work with your current clock spring.. instead of splicing n stuff.. you can get the newer version cruise control lever from a 98' or a 99' and its plug and play!!.. i got it to work.. i'm SO SO SO SO HAPPPPYYYYY... SO YUP.. will take some picts to prove my point!!..

FINALLYYY..

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I swapped a GT4 wheel w/out an airbag into my 6gc and it worked great, but decided that id rather have an airbag for safety and emissions. I put it all back together and my light wont go off. Any reset procedures or problems i may have caused? I plugged in all the harnesses and got the clock spring lined up in the center.
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QUOTE (AnaXyd @ Jun 20, 2009 - 10:27 AM) *
Will this swap from f.ex the Celica T23 to T20 actually work if you collide? Have somebody checked this?

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Have a Gen 7 wheel in my Gen 6 SSIII and was easy to swap, just plug and play with horn and airbag.




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Thanks to malpaso who redirected me to this thread from the gtfour.ch forums to find out how to mount my Lexus IS200/Toyota ST205 JDM hybrid wheel to my ST205.

My problem is just the different airbag connector.
I'll use the Lexus wheel because it's leather and the airbag from the JDM ST205 wheel because of the Toyota Logo.
I have a Rav 4 airbag here two I got from a Lexus guy who wanted the Airbag, also because of the logo, so we swapped.

The airbag from the JDM wheel has two brown wires, the one from the Rav 4 wheel a black an a red one, both have the small connector.
If I cut the wires and mount the big connector from my '96 4-spoke wheel to one of the airbags, how do I find out which way it should be connected?


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QUOTE (abraxxa @ Jan 16, 2010 - 9:52 AM) *
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The airbag from the JDM wheel has two brown wires, the one from the Rav 4 wheel a black an a red one, both have the small connector.
If I cut the wires and mount the big connector from my '96 4-spoke wheel to one of the airbags, how do I find out which way it should be connected?


See this topic made by Michelle. Answer is there smile.gif. And do not forget post some pictures when it's done!


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Does the RHD JDM st205 wheel have an air bag? and if so, is it as "direct" of a swap as all these others?

edit: even if it doesnt have an airbag, how easy of a swap would it be?

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QUOTE (malpaso @ Jan 16, 2010 - 8:14 AM) *
QUOTE (abraxxa @ Jan 16, 2010 - 9:52 AM) *
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The airbag from the JDM wheel has two brown wires, the one from the Rav 4 wheel a black an a red one, both have the small connector.
If I cut the wires and mount the big connector from my '96 4-spoke wheel to one of the airbags, how do I find out which way it should be connected?


See this topic made by Michelle. Answer is there smile.gif. And do not forget post some pictures when it's done!


Black is ground, red is power. If the two wires coming off the wheel itself are both brown, you will need to use a multimeter to see which is which.

QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Jan 16, 2010 - 9:25 AM) *
Does the RHD JDM st205 wheel have an air bag? and if so, is it as "direct" of a swap as all these others?

edit: even if it doesnt have an airbag, how easy of a swap would it be?


RHD vs LHD shouldn't matter where the steering wheel is concerned, since it's a circle tongue.gif

As for the directness of the swap, shouldn't be any more direct or less direct a swap than any other wheel discussed here. The wheel will swap right over, the airbag either will plug right in or it won't and you'll have to splice it in. No biggie.


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no more fuss.. the missing link ladies n gentlemen..

QUOTE (FORGMANN @ Jan 17, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
you don't need to splice any wires just buy this adapter

have to order from here not your dealer ..

http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=407&p=173&g=21




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Since this thread is pretty much the most thorough how-to-swap-your-steering wheel, I'd love to see it completed with information on how to splice in the 7th gen cruise stalk for those of us not lucky enough to get a 98-99 or whatever it was that's plug-n-play.

As a side note, in the interest of consolidating info, here is how to clear the airbag code, as per the BGB for a '95 USDM Celica
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CLEARING CODES
1) At DLC, connect a jumper wire to terminal Tc. See Figs. 11
and 12. Connect another jumper wire to terminal AB. Turn ignition
switch to ACC or ON position. Wait about 6 seconds.
2) Starting with terminal Tc, apply body ground alternately
to terminal Tc and terminal AB twice each, in cycles of 1/2 to 1 1/2
seconds (sequence is: Tc, AB, Tc, AB). Finally, keep applying body
ground to terminal Tc until air bag warning light flashes quickly,
indicating codes are cleared.
NOTE: When alternately connecting jumper probes to terminals,
simultaneously release one probe from one terminal while
connecting other probe to other terminal. If time interval
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OMG... I really didn't know what my now 3 years old topic can make smile.gif. Thank you all with sharing with your own ways how to solve airbag issue. It's really amazing. bowdown.gif


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Now, back to that cruise stalk swap! I'm clearly electrically challenged, so the odds of me figuring this out any time soon are slim. Help? BAAAAAAATMAAAAAN!


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I just looked over my notes, it's not super clear.

From the 6gen connector from the clockspring there's 3 wires
red
white
white w/black stripe
right ? (and the black horn)

7 gen to 6 gen
red to red
black (cut) to white
white to white w/black

that all I got, I took them both apart and saw the diff, check itr out smile.gif
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Good to see that the adapter fits!
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, one to three weeks. frown.gif


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malpaso. I understand that you need a puller to remove the column to completely remove wheel but would I be able to take the wheel, unscrew that center piller and somehow rotate my steering wheel 180 degrees without removing it? 2 years back when I had engine swap they mounted my steering wheel upside down. I was wondering if I could pull this off without a puller.

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I removed mine about a year ago without a puller but it took about 10-15 minutes.


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I needed a puller to remove my 4 spoke wheel, definitely NO way I would've gotten it w/out a puller, but to remove the 3 spoke wheel I don't expect I'd need a puller whatsoever. My guess, Yarik, since yours has been removed once already, is that you may not need one.

If you do need one, you can get it from Autozone; they "rent" them - you buy it for $20, use it, and return it for a refund (their policy!)


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QUOTE (abraxxa @ Jan 29, 2010 - 11:49 PM) *
I removed mine about a year ago without a puller but it took about 10-15 minutes.


exactly. depends on wheel... old ST st.wheel was impossible to remove w/o puller but at GT-four it was easy. So unless you give a try you never know smile.gif


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QUOTE (shegarhuney @ Jan 18, 2010 - 2:34 PM) *
no more fuss.. the missing link ladies n gentlemen..

QUOTE (FORGMANN @ Jan 17, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
you don't need to splice any wires just buy this adapter

have to order from here not your dealer ..

http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=407&p=173&g=21





Just thought I'd update this with my own findings, I was able to order this part off of http://www.handsontools.com/; prior to ordering I emailed to confirm part is in stock - part is in stock and will ship within 48 hrs. Part costs $16 on this site, but shipping is a bit high at $10 for UPS ground.

Edit: sub-"herness"? lol

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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jan 22, 2010 - 5:23 AM) *
I just looked over my notes, it's not super clear.

From the 6gen connector from the clockspring there's 3 wires
red
white
white w/black stripe
right ? (and the black horn)

7 gen to 6 gen
red to red
black (cut) to white
white to white w/black

that all I got, I took them both apart and saw the diff, check itr out smile.gif
good luck



Can anyone confirm this? I spliced in my 7th gen cruise stalk this weekend but it's not working.

On the 7th gen stalk, the black is crimped in with the white w/black wire, so I basically did the same with the clockspring side of the harness, cut in the W and W/B to the same on the stalk. I'm thinking this is where I went wrong - do I need to separate the B and the W/B on the stalk and splice them in separately to the clockspring side?

Also, would this possibly cause an airbag ecu code? I spliced in my airbag again, blue to black, yellow to red, reset the airbag ecu but the light is still on. I ran diagnostics on it, it's Code 12. Anyone else get this problem?

I have to run through DEQ in a month, and am pretty sure I won't pass if my SRS Warning light is on. Help! tongue.gif


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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Feb 16, 2010 - 5:01 PM) *
QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jan 22, 2010 - 5:23 AM) *
I just looked over my notes, it's not super clear.

From the 6gen connector from the clockspring there's 3 wires
red
white
white w/black stripe
right ? (and the black horn)

7 gen to 6 gen
red to red
black (cut) to white
white to white w/black

that all I got, I took them both apart and saw the diff, check itr out smile.gif
good luck



Can anyone confirm this? I spliced in my 7th gen cruise stalk this weekend but it's not working.

On the 7th gen stalk, the black is crimped in with the white w/black wire, so I basically did the same with the clockspring side of the harness, cut in the W and W/B to the same on the stalk. I'm thinking this is where I went wrong - do I need to separate the B and the W/B on the stalk and splice them in separately to the clockspring side?

Also, would this possibly cause an airbag ecu code? I spliced in my airbag again, blue to black, yellow to red, reset the airbag ecu but the light is still on. I ran diagnostics on it, it's Code 12. Anyone else get this problem?

I have to run through DEQ in a month, and am pretty sure I won't pass if my SRS Warning light is on. Help! tongue.gif


how did you clear the airbag code? At the DLC?


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(14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out.

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No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings.
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jan 20, 2010 - 2:25 PM) *
Since this thread is pretty much the most thorough how-to-swap-your-steering wheel, I'd love to see it completed with information on how to splice in the 7th gen cruise stalk for those of us not lucky enough to get a 98-99 or whatever it was that's plug-n-play.

As a side note, in the interest of consolidating info, here is how to clear the airbag code, as per the BGB for a '95 USDM Celica
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CLEARING CODES
1) At DLC, connect a jumper wire to terminal Tc. See Figs. 11
and 12. Connect another jumper wire to terminal AB. Turn ignition
switch to ACC or ON position. Wait about 6 seconds.
2) Starting with terminal Tc, apply body ground alternately
to terminal Tc and terminal AB twice each, in cycles of 1/2 to 1 1/2
seconds (sequence is: Tc, AB, Tc, AB). Finally, keep applying body
ground to terminal Tc until air bag warning light flashes quickly,
indicating codes are cleared.
NOTE: When alternately connecting jumper probes to terminals,
simultaneously release one probe from one terminal while
connecting other probe to other terminal. If time interval
between probings exceeds 0.2 second, codes will not clear.



Edit: Samir, I'll email you the PDF out of the BGB - it's got diagrams and PICTURES! lol

Edit again: Here's the PDFs for anyone else who wants them. "srs.pdf" has the wiring diagram, "airbag restraint system.pdf" contains trouble shooting, reset info and codes interpretation


This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Feb 16, 2010 - 5:06 PM


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ive got the BGB, thats why i was asking if thats how you cleared it. wink.gif In that case, im gonna guess something bigger is wrong, incorrect wiring or something? code 12 is not very specific....


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No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings.
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I think you're right, I think it's something with my connections actually.

Today I ordered the adapter harness - a bit too little, too late perhaps, I don't know. I depinned the clock-spring side of the connector, but didn't actually CUT anything off, so it's possible I could re-pin the connector, use the adapter, and be good to go!


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Hey guys,

I am thinking hard about doing this swap, but I see a lot of people who are having trouble with it and I need to drive this car daily. I have a few questions, and I know some of them have been answered, but I want to be 100% confident and clear before a buy the parts to start the swap. My car is a 95 USDM by the way. First off, if I am lucky and able to find a 98-99 wheel do I still need to do splicing and modding to get the airbag to connect? What about the Rav4 wheel (looks pretty much the same imo)? Regarding cruise control, will I not be able to use my existing 6g cruise control stalk?

Shopping list:
7th gen Wheel or Rav4 wheel or 98-99 6gen wheel
7th gen airbag
Airbag connector adapter
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Just buy the adapter posted above.


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Just buy the adapter posted above.



And the current cruise control works just fine?
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buy the adapter and just leave the cruise control it had thats what i did (with a 7th gen wheel)


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QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 15, 2011 - 1:46 PM) *
buy the adapter and just leave the cruise control it had thats what i did (with a 7th gen wheel)


Ok, thank you very much. I really appreciate all of the knowledge that all the people of this forum have shared with me so far, it honestly means a lot.
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i disabled my cruise control, the red stitch steering wheel didn't have the extra cruise control lever, but I've never used it anyway.


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Hey guys, got my steering wheel on, I would like to wire up my CC lever. Does anyone still have the splicing information, or can anyone confirm that the connections batman posted are correct? One of the CC levers I have has 3 wires coming off of it, and the other has 2.
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i used the old cc in my old steering wheel had but don't know about using the splicing.


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QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 23, 2011 - 9:51 PM) *
i used the old cc in my old steering wheel had but don't know about using the splicing.


I was expecting to be able to do the same, but the new stalk is much shorter inside the wheel than the old one was, the old one I have does not fit.
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which steering wheel are you using because the old cc should fit just not going to be straight out would be angled down something like this \ mine defenatly fit but like i said im using the 7th gen leather wheel have no idea about the other ones ill see if i can take a pic tomorrow.


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-full bodykit splitters and sideskirts to go with conversion (just needs fitting and painting)
-nice rims (Got TC rims and painted them white)
-light blue tint (next step will do this right after i get my paint job)
WTB Reasonably priced
Projectors just Lows
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QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 24, 2011 - 1:58 AM) *
which steering wheel are you using because the old cc should fit just not going to be straight out would be angled down something like this \ mine defenatly fit but like i said im using the 7th gen leather wheel have no idea about the other ones ill see if i can take a pic tomorrow.


The ebay listing says that it is off of an 03 celica, but it looks more like a rav4 wheel to me, no leather wrapping, just the same material as our e-brake. The CC off of my car has 3 mounting screws, but the new wheel only has 2 mounting holes, and the mounting area is much smaller making it so that the old one will not fit.

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