4agze swap NEED HELP QUICK!!!!, myneyes or jason?? Options

[NEVERSTOP]

k need help for my friend that has a 5th gen st... he is looking into a 4agze swap and needs some info about it... ne info will help.


thanks

[Charlie97L]

you have some options, it was in 2 JDM corollas, and the mk1 mr2, but you want the levin/corolla 4agze

ae92 - 165 HP, MAF
ae101 - 170 HP, MAP, optional LSD

you can get clips from Jarcoinc.com, give them a call, they have the best prices. the 4agze will drop right in to an ST, and i believe on a 5th gen you can use the axles that come with the clip as well. with a 5th gen, you'll need either a hood scoop or upgrade to a front mount intercooler, the top mount will heatsoak superfast with no scoop. i'd go front mount, myself.

possible upgrades, you can get a pulley to up the boost, cusco, hks, nevo all make them, check out here for 4agze upgrade info, you may have to upgrade the water pump with some of these pulleys.
www.board.mr2faq.com
also, running an exhaust/header/intake will give you some nice power, and the intercooler will of course up the HP as well. you can take it to about 200 at the crank with these mods.

[Guest_Matthew_*]

AW11
Yr: 86-89 1587cc, Twin Cam, supercharged, 4 Cylinder, RWD, 145hp at 6400rpm Torque: 19kg.m at 4400rpm Fuel Injection: AFM
AE92
Yr: 87-91 1587cc, Twin Cam, supercharged, 4 Cylinder, FWD, 165hp at 6400rpm Torque: 19kg.m at 4400rpm Fuel Injection: AFM.
AE101
Yr: 91-95 1587cc, Twin Cam, supercharged, 4 Cylinder, FWD, 170hp at 6400rpm Torque: 21kg.m at 4400rpm Fuel Injection: MAF

There are some specs for ya.

Go to www.tpautomotive.com for any more info.

[FallenHero]

Hey, do those engines mout the alternator and stuff in the same place?

[Guest_Matthew_*]

yea chuck is right. Jarco does have the best prices. Phone # is 770.479.4942

email: info@jarcoinc.com
parts@jarcoinc.com
halfcuts@jarcoinc.com
specials@jarcoinc.com

[NEVERSTOP]

okay what about with an automatic... pretty sure it would work but wanna check

[Mynzeyes]

the tranny should go right up..but if he gets the full clip he can convert to the 5spd...the A engines use the same tranny though, as far as the 4afe/7afe/4agze...so he should be fine..

[celicaBEst]

last time i checked, you would just switch out the whole tranny...if you're gonna swap the engine, you're gonna wanna have a 5spd regardless.

[NEVERSTOP]

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last time i checked, you would just switch out the whole tranny...if you're gonna swap the engine, you're gonna wanna have a 5spd regardless.

hes kinda a broke ass and tryin to do this as cheap as possible... plus he cant drive a stick to save his life.. seriously!

[Charlie97L]

QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Feb 6, 2003 - 10:25 PM)

QUOTE last time i checked, you would just switch out the whole tranny...if you're gonna swap the engine, you're gonna wanna have a 5spd regardless. hes kinda a broke ass and tryin to do this as cheap as possible... plus he cant drive a stick to save his life.. seriously!

well, the big problem is that i don't know if the auto tranny can take the torque. if it were a 20V 4age, sure, probably wouldn't be a big deal, but i know that the Levin 4agze did not have an auto tranny option. the only one i know of is the 88-89 Mr2 SC had a good auto transmission that could take the abuse. I'd perhaps look into getting one of those, or teaching your friend to drive stick. or buying a few extra celica auto trannies for when the one he has blows.

[Guest_Jason_*]

No, the automatic tranny will not work if you do all of the mods. It will go bye-byes.

Jarco does have the best prices, I guarantee. I looked around for awhile and searched as hard as I could. They'll even try to find a Clip in your mileage range and give you a price of $1795.00 to $2195.00. It may take them awhile, but they're shweet. Nevo pulley is the best out of all of them, I looked into that too, and I discussed it alot of Charlie. The FMIC you will need to get custom, which will be a pain in the ass. I'm also looking into changing the Supercharger to a Turbo as well at some point, but I dunno.

This post has been edited by Jason: Feb 7, 2003 - 11:49 AM

[Mynzeyes]

QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Feb 6, 2003 - 11:25 PM)

QUOTE last time i checked, you would just switch out the whole tranny...if you're gonna swap the engine, you're gonna wanna have a 5spd regardless. hes kinda a broke ass and tryin to do this as cheap as possible... plus he cant drive a stick to save his life.. seriously!

then he shouldn't do a swap if he's being a cheap ass. if he's gonna do it, he needs to do it right. not w/ the bare minimum...he'll probably need to source some new belts, new plugs and wires, a fuel pump if he doesn't get one w/ the engine, etc etc. it'd also be a good idea to get some gauges to see what's goin on w/ the new engine and all that...
cheap isn't how you do a swap. IMO that is.
-John-

[NEVERSTOP]

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then he shouldn't do a swap if he's being a cheap ass. if he's gonna do it, he needs to do it right. not w/ the bare minimum...he'll probably need to source some new belts, new plugs and wires, a fuel pump if he doesn't get one w/ the engine, etc etc. it'd also be a good idea to get some gauges to see what's goin on w/ the new engine and all that... cheap isn't how you do a swap. IMO that is.

I tried to tell him the same thing but hes stubborn... also what about the 5th gen ST axles.. will they hold up?

[Mynzeyes]

i know the 6th gen axles are fine, so i'd think the 5th would be ok...only up to around 200 whp...but him being a cheap ass, i don't think he needs to worry about that. . after the 200 range, custom axles will be in order.
btw, which 4agze is he lookin at? out of what chasis?
-John-

[NEVERSTOP]

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btw, which 4agze is he lookin at? out of what chasis?

I belive the one out of the levin but not sure... probably which everone he can get

[FallenHero]

Hey Jason, how's you power with the AgZe?

[NEVERSTOP]

so he can do this swap with his auto tranny and with the stock axles right?

[Mynzeyes]

yes. and there are a couple different gens of the 4agze, that's why i was wonderin which he had. but he'll be fine.

[NEVERSTOP]

Thanks

[Guest_Jason_*]

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Hey Jason, how's you power with the AgZe?

Not done yet.