 7ATFE, For all the ST's that are turbo'd |
 Jul 13, 2004 - 7:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '04 From Mt. Vernon, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Before you guys put on your turbo kits, what things did you do to your engines to keep running safely. I'm seriously considering turboing my car at 4-6PSI regularly and occasionlly using an 8PSI as a high boost. What kinds precations should I take for this boost level??
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Jul 13, 2004 - 7:47 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Just keep it up to date maintance wise; make sure everything's always running smoothly.. etc.. Thats not a very high boost level; you should be fine.
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Jul 13, 2004 - 8:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
hey shid when you finally going to turbo your car? my car is done pic on my car domain in one sec its going to the dyno shop tomorrow to be tuned
This post has been edited by nik: Jul 13, 2004 - 8:46 PM -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 13, 2004 - 8:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
When I start buying parts actually? hehe. done by xmas
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Jul 13, 2004 - 8:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/521899/2 last pic turbo is in
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 13, 2004 - 9:09 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nice nik
my Celica-T begins November. from there I have 6 monthes to complete it all. By april 12th (20th birthday) the girl shall be done. |
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Jul 13, 2004 - 9:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
6 months??
 Taking your sweet time. I expect to start at latest December 12th, and finish, at latest, July 20th. But in all reality, it'll probably be done in one weekend before the 12th sometimeNik, looking nice.. Engine dressing kit might be a little too much without custom paint on the manifolds and stuff. ct26 turbo? No intercooler? |
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Jul 13, 2004 - 9:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
now look a few more pics the manifold might powder coat or something wasn't on my list
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 13, 2004 - 9:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ahh, you do have a FMIC, my mistake
 Nice job avoiding the heat from the exhaust manifold after the FMIC btwI also hear that if you have the BOV right after the intercooler exit, it sounds cooler.. dont know about that... |
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Jul 13, 2004 - 9:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '04 From Mt. Vernon, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Do I need forged pistons and rods??
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Jul 13, 2004 - 9:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
For 6 psi? hellz no
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Jul 13, 2004 - 9:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '04 From Mt. Vernon, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
And if I put it up to 8psi occasionally is that still fine? Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
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Jul 13, 2004 - 10:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
every now and then it SHOULD be fine. I'm not sure running 8 psi all the time- depends on the condition of your engine
Any of the 7afte guys know? I'm a 5sfe man myself
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Jul 13, 2004 - 10:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '02 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
strongly agreed, check the connections (nuts, bolts, etc) and check oil level at least once a week and you will be fine. Ignore the simple things and itll eventually tear ur turbo and/or engine apart.
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Jul 14, 2004 - 10:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
hey forkee you ever dyno your car?
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 14, 2004 - 11:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
turboed 7a's make between 160 and 180 whp. that's the range I've seen...
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Jul 14, 2004 - 11:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '02 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
no money yet. its like 100/hour to get it dyno'ed. i might just get one of those performance meters like the one here: Beltronics -------------------- |
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Jul 14, 2004 - 11:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Forkee, those don't work that well- and it still won't show your hp because your acceleration etc is based off the cars weight, aerodynamics, etc.
Nothing beats a good dynotune |
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Jul 15, 2004 - 2:04 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 13, '04 From St. Louis (Webster Groves) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
How much does this run to turbo the car? I cant really see myself doing it, but it looks cool.
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Jul 15, 2004 - 9:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i'm about $1850 deep so far not bad a kit for the rolla is like $3000-$4000 dont quote me on prices i would say just gather all the parts go custom its cheaper on our cars
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 15, 2004 - 9:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '02 From Scranton, Pa Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
nik: nice to see my turbo kit is working out for you!!,,, any chance i can get your old exhaust manifold still? i need that elbow part
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Jul 15, 2004 - 11:22 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
ya i can get it in the mail probably monday or so now do you want the elbow or the hole manifold w/ elbow? on your dyno run what psi were you running?
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 15, 2004 - 1:26 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '02 From Italy Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
bro, do you have modified ignition and injection maps for emanage for 7afte!?!?!??!?! If yes, would ya share them? Thanks
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Jul 15, 2004 - 1:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
not yet but in a few weeks i should -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 16, 2004 - 3:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
got it dyno at 5.5 pounds for now results: 131.3 horse 164.2 torque ........ stuff i'm getting done today is a thicker head gasket , 2.5 inch mid pipe (before the cat and connects to the downpipe) install all new belts and with asp underdrive pulley later this month get my injectors rebuilt THIS IS ALL STOCK ( just bolt on turbo)horsepower numbers
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 16, 2004 - 6:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hmmm after all those dyno runs you must run it on the quarter mile too..
Give us ST owners hope. |
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Jul 16, 2004 - 6:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From San Diego CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
164 TQ!!!!! Dude thats is freaking awesome i hope i get those numbers when im down with my set up. |
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Jul 16, 2004 - 7:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '02 From Scranton, Pa Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
manifold with elbow please!! |
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Jul 16, 2004 - 7:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '02 From Scranton, Pa Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
nik, your numbers will climb, look at my dyno in my file. that was with map sensor problems..
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Jul 16, 2004 - 7:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Nik, tight numbers! especially the torque. Now do some head work and UPP THE BOOOST!
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Jul 16, 2004 - 11:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
why do you want to change your compression? what boost numbers are you looking for?
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Jul 17, 2004 - 9:57 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
he is probably looking to run 12+psi or for more reliability at 10-psi 8psi is just fine for the car, if you have the right supporting mods which i didnt, $90 fuel pump, i waited to buy mine, waited until the engine died(melted piston) my setup is now forkee's setup. i ran 8psi for 6k miles and not until i put the new turbo on and the boost was set at 10psi(didnt mean to) did my stock pump give out causing the damage. i looked inside my engine, everything was still good except the one piston. at 8psi i was faster than a rsx type s from a roll(he blew by me and cut me off so i caught him and passed him) the type s has 200hp and 140?tq or something like that, the torque may be low, but from a roll it doesnt matter much at all. they can run high 14's, and from a roll, you easily get high 14's acceleration out of those cars. and the ST-T was faster than my WRX, which would get off the line faster, but the way i launched my ST-T, it was at full boost before it even moved! incase some dont know, my ST-T was automatic my car was faster than 99-04 mustang gt's that were at most only had exhaust and intake(any more than that and GT's make a lot more power) the ST-T is a very fun car that still got me good milage, like 25mpg. had i changed the fuel pump from the get go, i would still be driving the car and be looking into mods that ad reliability(thicker HG) oh and i never got the chance to dyno tune the car, all that performance i got was before i installed the FMIC that forkee now has, i was running a DSM SMIC. i was waiting till i got the FMIC in to go to a dyno, but my 7afte came to a oil burning end, luckily my warranty covered all the repair costs, lol got a new shortblock for $0 -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Jul 17, 2004 - 2:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
my goal is 8 psi.My engine is on the higher miles side 127,000 i turned it to 7 psi and blow the boot off the bottom of the turbo ( its because the I.C. piping is straight 90 degree angle but the turbo inlet is about 45 degree i cant get a good hold so i order a 45 degree silicone elbow and 2nd day air it should have it monday.When i dyno ran my car before the turbo results: 98.7 horse 128.7 torque after boost (5.5) i gained 35.5 torque and 32.6 horse not bad for that little boost
 you can diffently tell boost you gotta try it!
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 17, 2004 - 2:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I Cant wait until i get my setup all done.. I plan on running 8psi
This post has been edited by hyp3rk1d: Jul 17, 2004 - 2:48 PM |
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Jul 20, 2004 - 11:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
a turboed st = 160 hp
how much hp would a turboed gt be have. |
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Jul 20, 2004 - 12:45 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 17, '03 From Tampa FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I had never modefied the compression ratio and kept it high and ran 7psi boost on it sometimes. I didnt have any help and went on it by myself. My oil pressure was too high also. Intercooler is a must, i went cheap and didnt put one on. My setup would be pretty good for an intercooler because the piping would stay away from the engine and exhaust manifold. Sadly i have run out of money and the project is dead. I have taken it off of the car to spare the engines life.
mine had about 105k on it and my lower boot used to blow off sometimes when i ran it high.
I had a carbon fiber hood to put on my car but the turbo would get too hot in the summer and i was afraid it would ruin the hood. mine was an automatic too, i have heard that an automatic handles the turbo setup better but id like a manual anyways http://www.geocities.com/dustin_az/car.html -------------------- -97 Celica ST
-2001 Celica GTS dk blue mica 100hp per litre (GOT LIFT?) |
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Jul 20, 2004 - 1:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i'm not sure because none of the gt guys have dynod their cars yet i'm going back in about a 2 weeks with the asp underdrive pulley on bigger exhaust and a few other little goodies and see if i cant hit 160+ horse on the dyno -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 20, 2004 - 1:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
how much skills and money for this kind of project
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Jul 20, 2004 - 3:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 17, '03 From Tampa FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
If you want to get the project done without half a$$ing it then you will need to know alot about how a turbo works. Or at least get someone that is working on your car that knows what they are doing. The cheapest way to go is to learn yourself and install the turbo yourself and piece together a kit, but if you dont do it right then you will face the consequences. If you have somebody else do it for you then its gonna cost a lot more and they may not care about how your car is gonna be down the line. I spent 2000 on my turbo but i missed a bunch of things like preparing my engine for the pressure. I should have done more research and had more things done. If i did it correctly, then i would have spent around 3500 but i ran out of money. unless your planning on showing the car, a lot of that money is going to go down the drain and youll never see it again, its an expensive hobby and thats what the people pay for cuz its something they enjoy.
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-2001 Celica GTS dk blue mica 100hp per litre (GOT LIFT?) |
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Jul 20, 2004 - 4:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
It’s actually not that hard.... BUT automotive knowledge helps this is my first import engine I’ve mess with. Before it was ford's 302 V8.a few things you need a Chilton book for the car and Maximum Boost book (eBay or book store) along with a parts list there is one some where on the site it has parts like you need a manifold, drain hose, bov, etc on it. Also there are a few people that know a lot about turboing the 7a or 5s like just to name a few zipstrips, 97scelica, Nik (me),Forkee, itchy (i might have spelled some names wrong so sorry if i did) This post has been edited by nik: Jul 20, 2004 - 4:20 PM -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 22, 2004 - 10:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i got a bigger mid pipe between the D.P the before the cat 2.5 and know the turbo spools hella quick now before it was 1 sec or 2 now its right away
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 28, 2004 - 9:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From Panama City Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
here is a stupid question:
i heard that i need a 2 bar map for my turbo setup. what is a 2 bar map? is it a special manifold air pressure sensor? where can i get one?  |
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Jul 29, 2004 - 11:48 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
well i didnt use one  but you can get them off of a turbo MR2 or all trac celica from the junk yard
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 29, 2004 - 3:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From Panama City Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
what is the purpose of it?
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