3S-FE header on 5S-FE engine???, Ye Olde Header Question... Options

[sdragon007]

Howdy.

This isn't your usual "I want a header for my Celica GT" post. Rather, it is a carefully researched and calculated question on the feasibility and affordability of future procurement.

I have read in many of y'all's posts that the 3S-FE header can be fitted with slight modifications to the 5S-FE engine. I would like more details as the the modifications.

What exactly needs to be modified on the header?

Who can do such work?
(I assume an exhaust place, but do they need special tooling?)

How much did it cost?
(No hypotheticals please, just real numbers from people who've done it.)

How much gain did you see?
(Dyno numbers would be nice, but if not available, how does it feel?)

Does the catalytic converter need to be replaced with a aftermarket piece due to the one-piece design of the cat and the stock exhaust header?

Anybody have pictures?

Any and all information is appreciated.

Thanks,
Ed

[recneps]

all you have to do is widen one bolt hole.

hers a discussion about this. im assuming that the stock exaust will bolt right up beecause no said anything about it

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=9114&hl=3sfe

you should pm phat_99celigt

[sdragon007]

Thanks for replying,

Cost to widen? Where would I go to get it done? How much gain?

-Ed

P.S. Anybody have pics?

[recneps]

nah check out the thread he just widened a bolt hole that connects the header to the head and everything else should go right together.

and you might gain 4 hp to the wheels with a nice header.

[sdragon007]

Does one need to acquire and fit an aftermarket cat? I hear the primary cat is incorporated into the exhaust manifold and switching out to a header requires a cat?

[recneps]

i dont think theres a built in cat in the 3sfe performance header. so yeah if you want to pass smog and dont want to pay somebody off or arnt very good at making friends you should not get it

i dont think your gonna pass smogg with just a secondary cat.