The List, What happened to the List? Options

[Consynx]

there use to be a list of all parts used for the 3S Swap, where did it go?

there in reality should be about 3 lists complete, then several unknown ones

the 2nd gen 3S w/ 5S tranny should be a known
the 2nd gen MR2 2S w/ 5S Tranny should be known
and either of those w/ the e153 tranny should be known

just wanted to further my knowledge what what if kept at the flywheel.

3S pressure plate, 5S clutch?...yea

[Supersprynt]

If you use a 3s and S54 tranny your going to use the 3s flywheel, 3s PP and 5s disc.

[Consynx]

thank you
There's 1 example

would that be same for all gens?

oh yea, what's this crap floating around about changing axles, i never got that far into Qatar's walkthrough before it hit an error, is there really one necessary?

[Supersprynt]

Changing axles is only necessary for an E-153 (MR2) transmission, whereas you need Alltrac outter axles and MR2 inner axles.

Im not sure about the generations on the clutch, the ST165 might be smaller but I'm just guessing, dont buy a kit only buy what you need.

[recneps]

if you use the mr2 tranny with lsd some "adjustments" have to be made and your gonna need lsd axles.

and if your doing a 3s swap in a st your gonna need either gt or mr2 axles.

[Supersprynt]

Ah yes the ST->GT conversion, yeah if you have an S54 tranny obviously your going to need the GT axles, however I was under the impression that the MR2 axles will not fit into the hubs of the Celica and/or they are too short.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Oct 14, 2004 - 12:40 PM

[Consynx]

what is dif b/t auto and manual GT trannies, are they both the S54 just with dif gearing?

I take it they use the same axles, so a swap is not necessary, would there be a pt where the GT axles can't handle the extra power?

as for the change for the LSD tranny, would you need the axles from the tranny you got...ie Curren w/ LSD or MR2 w/ LSD...

[Supersprynt]

If you have an auto tranny you need auto axles, same goes with manual. The GT is not built to handle the power put out by the 3s, it is basically a crap shoot. Some have died sooner than others, some have gone to 400hp and still kicking. The not-knowing is the biggest problem.

I am unsure what will fit in the Curren tranny, but I was under the impression it was just an S54 with LSD, but I dont know for sure. Either way, you'd need LSD axles for an LSD tranny.

[Consynx]

so if sum1 has auto before the swap, they need manual axles to convert to manual when swapping(along w/ w/e else)

ok...

[recneps]

[Consynx]

[recneps]

well mina is using mr2 axles so i guess that solves the question.

[Supersprynt]

Mina is also using an E153 w/LSD.

I am unsure of the aftermarket LSD systems as they are few and far between. It would probably be cheaper to buy an entire tranny than to buy the TRD one and put it in.

Theres a Curren 3sge tranny up for sale and if you do some research and/or he has the axles you can use that. I am unsure of the compatibility between that transmission and the S54 transaxles.

[Supersprynt]

[recneps]

hmm well that makes me feel dumb.

but yeah buying a aftermarket lsd is kinda pointless for the fact that they are all upwards of $700.

[Consynx]

Super, this was my research

trying to get all the possible combos so i could make a list and get it stickied or somethin

[Kwanza26]