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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Nov 25, '03 From Pittsburgh, PA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
from what i've read, the 3sgte swap is expensive... not only that, not many people have done this (especially in the north east... PA etc)... so I've been thinking about the alternatives, and if I buy an mr2 turbo (the entire car) and work on that, would that be the smarter investment? I know it has greater power potential than the 3sgte in quarter mi. time. what do you think?
im also concerned about emissions, so thats why a US mr2 sounds like a better option. This post has been edited by powerkor: Nov 21, 2004 - 3:49 PM |
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 1, '04 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Well if you get an Mr2 turbo i can assure you its going to be cheaper and you'll already have the 3sgte to work with installed =P
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Nov 21, '04 From Central Valley CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Sounds like you should go for the mr2. The 3s swap seems unrealisticly expensive to me.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
swap is a big project and is a lot of work. if you can buy an mr2 in great shape, then go for it, its a great car.
on the other hand, doing a swap lets you learn a lot about your car, and you have something unique that you can take pride in. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Don't forget you'll be losing 2 seats and gaining RWD. MR2 is a 2 seater right? |
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yes sir... there was n0 rear seat option in a mr2 there was simply no room lol.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
How is a ct26 better for drag. You can only run around 8-10psi on stock internals. You can run far higher on the 3s which would be better for drag
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the motors would be the same... the mr2 is lighter, mid engine, and RWD... and you have a ct26 either way
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QUOTE(mikew04 @ Nov 22, 2004 - 2:03 AM) the motors would be the same... the mr2 is lighter, mid engine, and RWD... and you have a ct26 either way [right][snapback]210102[/snapback][/right] incorrect, the MR2 is heavier. -------------------- ![]() Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 19, '04 From austin tx Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
really? i just assumed... would it still be heavier than a swapped celi?
EDIT: would it also depend on the year? edmunds has the 94 gt hatch weighing about 80 pounds less than a 94 mr2, but a 98 celi weighing 100 pounds more than a 2 of the same year. and then they have the '95 mr2 200 pounds heavier than the 94... but then again its edmunds so who knows This post has been edited by mikew04: Nov 22, 2004 - 2:34 AM -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
MR2 is 2800+ lbs
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Nov 25, '03 From Pittsburgh, PA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
gee, people say alot of different **** on this site, the integrity of the content (posted by others) is questionable. Is there no knowledgable celi or mr2 owners on this board, for the love of god.
any how, rwd is better for drag if you're good. I love my celica, its just gonna be hard to give it up to an mr2 if that's what I decide. i def. like the style of the 6gc better than any mr2 i've seen, but facts are facts, quarter mi. times don't lie regardless of what people say. I haven't seen a celica in any big sports mag in a long time. It seems to me the Z people know their ****. It's really disappointing in the lack of after market support for the 6gc... even if I were to go through with the swap who is to say it will be better than an older car... If i wasn't so emotionally attached I'd get an older 300z and upgrade a few parts, run lower times for a third of the cost.... Well this is true, I love the 4cyl and the fact that its not nissan. The suspension is really great stock... I love my 97ST, I take it on back roads all the time zippin' through turns like its nothing... maybe that's all I am meant to do, but it would sure be nice to have some power under the hood. This post has been edited by powerkor: Nov 22, 2004 - 6:01 AM |
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while its true that there are not many 5sfe and 7a aftermarket parts, there is a ton of stuff out for the 3sgte, because of all the mr2 tuners out there.
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As long as you stick to Toyota everything will work out!But all that really matters is 3sgte engine!You definately have the power!And personally the mr2 for me is on of the best loking import besides the Supra mk4 and the celica 6th gen.
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If your looking to drag the celica you need LSD no buts about it.
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QUOTE(powerkor @ Nov 22, 2004 - 11:00 AM) gee, people say alot of different **** on this site, the integrity of the content (posted by others) is questionable. Is there no knowledgable celi or mr2 owners on this board, for the love of god. [right][snapback]210167[/snapback][/right] No knowledgable owners? You must be falling into that group as well. If you're impressed with the 6gc's stock suspension, your standards for handling up ricer-high -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
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[quote=powerkor,Nov 22, 2004 - 4:00 AM]
gee, people say alot of different **** on this site, the integrity of the content (posted by others) is questionable. Is there no knowledgable celi or mr2 owners on this board, for the love of god. ![]() I know more about celicas than most people know about cars in general. ![]() |
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QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Nov 22, 2004 - 6:44 AM) How is a ct26 better for drag. You can only run around 8-10psi on stock internals. You can run far higher on the 3s which would be better for drag [right][snapback]210090[/snapback][/right] Huh? the gen I and II 3sgte stock turbo is a CT26...you can run them 15-16psi all day long on stock everything! They run out of umpf at 15-16psi though. You can push 20+ psi on a stock internal 3sgte with water injection,good intercooling, high octane, and upgraded turbo. -------------------- ![]() |
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QUOTE(bufferdan @ Nov 22, 2004 - 1:15 PM) Huh? the gen I and II 3sgte stock turbo is a CT26...you can run them 15-16psi all day long on stock everything! They run out of umpf at 15-16psi though. You can push 20+ psi on a stock internal 3sgte with water injection,good intercooling, high octane, and upgraded turbo. [right][snapback]210341[/snapback][/right] And a full remap. And I wouldn't risk it on stock internals personally. But then I'm paranoid. -------------------- JDM ST205
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) ![]() |
QUOTE(bufferdan @ Nov 22, 2004 - 1:15 PM) QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Nov 22, 2004 - 6:44 AM) How is a ct26 better for drag. You can only run around 8-10psi on stock internals. You can run far higher on the 3s which would be better for drag [right][snapback]210090[/snapback][/right] Huh? the gen I and II 3sgte stock turbo is a CT26...you can run them 15-16psi all day long on stock everything! They run out of umpf at 15-16psi though. You can push 20+ psi on a stock internal 3sgte with water injection,good intercooling, high octane, and upgraded turbo. [right][snapback]210341[/snapback][/right] He's talking about a 5sfe turbo'd man. -------------------- |
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