Wires, advice? Options

[bojangles_8686]

I want to buy some new ignition wires. In the parts database I saw a few options, but what do you think is the best?

[presure2]

unless you plan on doing serious mods, just go to your local toyo dealer and buy the stock denso's..about 80 bones......trust me spend the extra 30$ over the chepo pepboy/autozone nkg's.....they suck...the wire comes apart at the connecter leaving u with the plug down in the head unless you have a LONG ass set of needle nose pliers...trust me...been there, done that. lol
if your gonna spend any more than that, i'd say screw it and buy the magnacor's (around 150$ i think)
hope that helps

[west_minist]

Nology is the best to go with.

You will feel a noticeable change.

There are like small ignition units.

Good starting point for further mods if you like.

While you are ordering the plugs, order the Nology Profire M75 OR M80, the Nology Silverstone Spark Plugs and some Ground Straps.

Use the M75 with either MSD Digital 6 Plus or the M80 w/ CraneCams HI6TRC(my choice)



This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 25, 2003 - 11:49 PM

[FallenHero]

Nology wires Do Not last. I have a very close firend who is the local distributer for NOPI who told me I was stupid if i ever got em. They rock for a little while, but is a little while worth 150?

Anyway, TRD supposedly makes plugs for the 7A. But The description is really strange.

[edo17982]

Hey west, may I use the Nology hotwires with stock ignition or there are fittings problems due to the enlarged diameter?
the set has also the wire from the distributor to the coil? cause I'm planning to swithc to external one....
Thanks

[west_minist]

QUOTE (FallenHero @ Mar 26, 2003 - 12:02 AM)

Nology wires Do Not last. I have a very close firend who is the local distributer for NOPI who told me I was stupid if i ever got em. They rock for a little while, but is a little while worth 150? Anyway, TRD supposedly makes plugs for the 7A. But The description is really strange.

Well it is up to you.

We live in the Caribbean where is real pop holes, rain, high tempearature and so forth than in the states. Hey, were are in the Tropics.

My own have been going for alomost a year now and other had there own for over a year.

That says alot

[west_minist]

QUOTE (edo17982 @ Mar 26, 2003 - 8:04 AM)

Hey west, may I use the Nology hotwires with stock ignition or there are fittings problems due to the enlarged diameter? the set has also the wire from the distributor to the coil? cause I'm planning to swithc to external one.... Thanks

No prob. It is just the cables like what you have on.

Olny have to find a place to ground them.

[rlan214]

ngk nice and cheap

[west_minist]

QUOTE (rlan214 @ Mar 26, 2003 - 12:21 PM)

ngk nice and cheap

Rlan!

We are talking about real performance here.

Well the choice is up to him.

What he need is some advice from those who have such things.

[bojangles_8686]

west_minist it looks like you have superior knowledge over all of us when it comes to performance and researching performance, my celica is a 95 gt, what do you suggest? I know wires dont give that much power but what is you suggestion as far as horsepower for the dollar?

This post has been edited by bojangles_8686: Mar 26, 2003 - 8:02 PM

[west_minist]

QUOTE (bojangles_8686 @ Mar 26, 2003 - 8:01 PM)

west_minist it looks like you have superior knowledge over all of us when it comes to performance and researching performance, my celica is a 95 gt, what do you suggest?  I know wires dont give that much power but what is you suggestion as far as horsepower for the dollar?

It does to some point; Depend on each engine and tuning.

As a toyota fanatic, the cliam 4 - 8% increase is well noted.

My main interest would be the warranty. In other word, does the cables go back to just cables after 5- 6 or more months?!

In my subaru, it is just onderful. There are over 6 months now with out any problem except the car behaves like it have VTEC or VVTL-i .

I would advice, bast on my first couple of paragrah on my write up to do the normals things.

Tuning is very very very very important. I cannot stress it any more.

Profile:
Performance Mods: - Injen Inkate
- Arospeed Muffler
Suspension Mods: - Arospeed Coilovers
- KYB Gas Struts

Since you already have an intake and mufler and good suspension to some point (fail to mention tires and brake kit), all that you need right now is some meters, Adjustable fuel Pressure regulator, Apex SAFC and a ignition (West_Minist Kit, ie, CraneCams, Nology M80 coil, Nology Hotwires, Nology SilverStone Spark Plugs, Nology Ground Straps). , Pulley and other like stuff.

Also get a GTechPro while you are at it since you may not have access to dynos..

My write up have everything that is needed.

What I want to do, it I find some time is how to tune the Apex SAFC very quickly on a track or late night back road. GtechPro would definately help.

Here where I live, the thing I mention are above are normal apply to the car straight away to get away from stock. It just seems pretty normal here.

What we normally start out here is trying to get the car handling right with just your mods that you have plus a few more.

We have short roads here but alot of curves.

After that, it is all engine performance

We love it. We sleep, eat, drink and think all the time on how to get that just little bit out of tuning.

I hope that this here helps

This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 26, 2003 - 10:36 PM

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

hmmmm.......adjustable fuel regulator......is that something other than the Apexi SAFC?? If so, then could you give me an example? From what i understand, this would just increase your fuel flow to accomodate a more powerful ignition, correct?? i would like to invest in this kind of set up, but want to know how this all works to get more power N/A versus turbo.

[bojangles_8686]

So west_minist your basically saying get:

meters - what kind of meters?

Adjustable fuel regulator - made by who?

Apex SAFC

CraneCams HI-6TRC CD Ignition

Nology M80 coil - I would rather get the M70 because the M80 is for high modded cars isnt it?

Nology Hotwires

Nology SilverStone Spark Plugs

Nology Ground Straps

Pulley and other like stuff - what kind of pulley?

[west_minist]

QUOTE (Silver94CelicaOwner @ Mar 26, 2003 - 10:31 PM)

hmmmm.......adjustable fuel regulator......is that something other than the Apexi SAFC?? If so, then could you give me an example? From what i understand, this would just increase your fuel flow to accomodate a more powerful ignition, correct?? i would like to invest in this kind of set up, but want to know how this all works to get more power N/A versus turbo.

Yes in a sense.

The injector cc (please go to rceng.com for further details) is when given is at a specify Fuel pressure. Around 43PSI.

But increasing your fuel pressure, you are actual increasing the cc value of the injector. Or delivery of fuel.

Normal, injectors are run up to 80% of there value. This is where we coming in to such talk as duty cycle. How low the injector stay open.

The more pressure up to some point, the less time the injectors stay open. Also, you have the problem of using too much fuel with just the AFPR.

To combat this probelm, you can use the Apex to control your duty cycle in essence.

The apex have other functionality, but in essence, that is what it does.

You can set fuel delivery or duty to the injector through the rpm range in 100rpm segment (I believe, check documentation), there buy tuning your car for ore hp.

Other fact are in there, but let us call it tuning.

I hope that helps

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Yeah, that helps me alot, thanks

[rlan214]

QUOTE (west_minist @ Mar 26, 2003 - 5:52 PM)

QUOTE (rlan214 @ Mar 26, 2003 - 12:21 PM) ngk nice and cheap Rlan! We are talking about real performance here. Well the choice is up to him. What he need is some advice from those who have such things.

well good enough if ure running with few mods
well i would agree with nology but for that price
id rather save up for something else just meh tho

[rlan214]

bojangles_8686

if ure looking for the best bang for the buck id suggest u go turbo using 3sgte parts

i think ibwilson is doing that right now

or go to celica.net's forced induction forum then search turbo 5sfe

there should be a thread about turboing 5sfe under 1k

[west_minist]

QUOTE (bojangles_8686 @ Mar 26, 2003 - 10:41 PM)

So west_minist your basically saying get: meters - what kind of meters? Adjustable fuel regulator - made by who? Apex SAFC CraneCams HI-6TRC CD Ignition Nology M80 coil - I would rather get the M70 because the M80 is for high modded cars isnt it? Nology Hotwires Nology SilverStone Spark Plugs Nology Ground Straps Pulley and other like stuff - what kind of pulley?

Check out my write up on turbocharging for equipment model #s and so on.

TRD AFPR

M80 is a direct replacement for the LX92 which goes with the CraneCams. Don't bother about it. The HI 6 can work with it.

If you can get an under-driven pulley for your engine, check out the parts list @ http://www.6gc.net/index.php/action/parts_database

[west_minist]

You could never turbocharge you car for under 1K properly. You will pay for it later.

I know that there are pretty expensive. But if you understand how the nology wires works compare to CD ignitions, there are rightly price.

[rlan214]

turboing ure gt under 7xx $$$

its a lil good rid for gt peeps

oh that 7xx$ doesn't include gauges
and make sure ure engine is up to spec