between GT and ST, noobie question PLEASE HELP Options

[Ve1Ls1dEvolutioN]

is there a difference between GT and ST front spindle and hub?? i'm converting brakes from ST to GT. i bought cross drilled and slotted rotors but they wouldn't fit. i'm guessing i have to replace the backplate. but does anyone think i have to get new spindle and hub too??

thanx
alex

[Kwanza26]

The calipers are different... the backplates have nothing to do with the braking system... it's mostly a dust cover. The knuckles/spindle/hubs are all the same.

[lazer_mjj]

Not really much point is there? I mean they are only a few mm bigger, save yourself the hassle buy st rotors and spend the change of braided brake lines for better braking

[playr158]

is there a difference between GT and ST front spindle and hub??

you can't swap between gt front and rear
you keep the ST front

and swap ST REAR DRUMS to GT REAR DISK

you have to keep front st rotors
or bump it up to 7th gen

[dustin15brown]

There should be a few threads about this already.. try a search

[nowitzon]

quick one how much does it cost in total parts,labor etc to change over to disc brakes on a st

[playr158]

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This post has been edited by playr158: May 14, 2005 - 8:01 PM

[Illyont]

quick one how much does it cost in total parts,labor etc to change over to disc brakes on a st
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Get a European car They come with disc brakes all around as stock.

[playr158]

no just get a GT

has nothing to do with country

GT=aw disk
ST= drum for the majority

[red94celicagt]

no just get a GT

has nothing to do with country

GT=aw disk
ST= drum for the majority
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yup, i got a '94 GT stocked brakes came with disks all around

[S_C_M]

I have GT front brakes on my ST. In order to use GT discs, you need to change the calipers and caliper mounting brackets over to GT parts. Brake lines bolt into the new calipers just fine. I don't have backing plates on my conversion.

I did this years ago, wish I'd have kept my Toyota boxes with the OEM part numbers, but a dealer should be able to supply the info.

[playr158]

yea GT works on the front
just need to replace the whole assembly

and there should only be backing plates on the rear for the e-brake
the front only has, caliper, disk, pads, bracket

[DmVinny]

Can you take the rear disc brakes from a GT and put them in an ST?

[Kwanza26]

Can you take the rear disc brakes from a GT and put them in an ST?
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Yes... you need the spindle/hub/backing plate/ebrake drum (should all be one piece), calipers /w brackets, rotors, ebrake cables, and brake lines. Essentially the entire rear assembly that bolts onto the lower suspension arms and strut. It's a direct swap over to the ST.

 
yea GT works on the front
just need to replace the whole assembly

and there should only be backing plates on the rear for the e-brake
the front only has, caliper, disk, pads, bracket

The front has backing plates also. Why wouldn't they? Backing plates have nothing to do with the e-brake, they're mostly a dust cover. You also don't need the "whole assembly". You need the calipers with brackets, and rotors. That's it. Yet another example of you not knowing what you're talking about...

[Ve1Ls1dEvolutioN]

as far my situation i have no other choice but to upgrade my front ST to GT disc...i bought cross drilled and slotted rotors about 2 years ago and just gettin' a chance to put them now...not knowing i have to change the whole backplate,spindle,hub,calipers and everything...

backing plates on the front from a GT and an ST have two different part numbers...therefore 2 different size...backing plate for an ST is a little smaller than the GT...when i tried inserting just the rotors it would not spin and clear the backing plate

[playr158]

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yea GT works on the front
just need to replace the whole assembly

and there should only be backing plates on the rear for the e-brake
the front only has, caliper, disk, pads, bracket
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The front has backing plates also. Why wouldn't they? Backing plates have nothing to do with the e-brake, they're mostly a dust cover. You also don't need the "whole assembly". You need the calipers with brackets, and rotors. That's it. Yet another example of you not knowing what you're talking about...
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i said exactly that just wat you call a backing plate i call a dust cover and you don't have to have a dust cover either

as in "whole assembly" i was refering to wat i stated
"caliper, mounting bracket, pads, rotor"
those are the necessities of changing st-gt
so i DO know what i'm talking about

stfu

This post has been edited by playr158: May 22, 2005 - 12:18 AM

[Kwanza26]

i said exactly that just wat you call a backing plate i call a dust cover and you don't have to have a dust cover either

as in "whole assembly" i was refering to wat i stated
"caliper, mounting bracket, pads, rotor"
those are the necessities of changing st-gt
so i DO know what i'm talking about

stfu
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No no no... you STFU. You really have ZERO clue what you're talking about. You can't even differentiate what a dust cover and backing plate is. First you say the backing plate is part of the e-brake, then you say the fronts don't have them, now you're saying you refer to them as dust covers AFTER I tell you they have nothing to do with the e-brake system? That's all a backing plate does... is to cover the rotor. Woopie... Don't try to sound like a smart ass calling things all sorts of crazy names. As for "whole assembly"... whole assembly is the spindle/knuckle, hub, calipers, rotors, basically everything minus the suspension arms and strut. AGAIN, more proof you just don't know jack sh!t. You continually speak out of turn and pass off completely WRONG information. You are the one who really needs to just Shut the f*ck up.

as far my situation i have no other choice but to upgrade my front ST to GT disc...i bought cross drilled and slotted rotors about 2 years ago and just gettin' a chance to put them now...not knowing i have to change the whole backplate,spindle,hub,calipers and everything...

You don't need to change any of that for the fronts... you only need calipers. For the rears, you'll need the entire assembly.

backing plates on the front from a GT and an ST have two different part numbers...therefore 2 different size...backing plate for an ST is a little smaller than the GT...when i tried inserting just the rotors it would not spin and clear the backing plate

Like I said, they're more or less dust covers. You can remove them completely (fronts only), or just bend them back to clear the rotor. No big deal. They're usually removed when big brake kits and such are installed.

[FAQdaWorld]

Should i call the fire department? someone may have just got burned...

[Cutrara]

The internet is serious business.


Good luck with the brake conversion.

[Ve1Ls1dEvolutioN]

are the brake line for the front the same in a GT and ST??