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post Apr 16, 2003 - 1:23 PM
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What do you need to modify to shoot nitrious in your car? I have an ST so do I need to do anything to it before I buy a bottle and hook things up? And exactly when do you use nitrious, what RPM's? I might wanna try it out!
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post Apr 16, 2003 - 1:41 PM
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depends on how big of a shot your gonna use, as to what modifications you need to do, also only use it at wide open throttle and above 3000 rpms. let me know exactly what your aiming for and i'll let you know how to do it.
post Apr 16, 2003 - 4:24 PM
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retard your timing
post Apr 16, 2003 - 5:32 PM
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I think that NOS is such a waste of money...Why get a SHOT of NOS that would last you like 5 seconds when you can turbo or do a swap and gain performance for as long as you have your car?? Just my opinion though...im not a big fan of NOS frown.gif


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post Apr 16, 2003 - 6:45 PM
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i also hate it when people (nobody in particular rolleyes.gif ) call it NOS when we are talking about nitrous. there is NOS, Compucar, Edelbrock, Nitrous Express, Zex, etc.......... it is nitrous oxide in general. bunch a' torettos!!!!! biggrin.gif
post Apr 16, 2003 - 7:19 PM
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I think nitrous is one of the cheapest horse power mods you can get. It may only last a couple of seconds, but thats all it takes to kick someones ass!!! Plus the fact that it is only used for a couple of seconds means that it won't kill the motor as fast. Nitrous is a good mod, especially if you dont have the money for a turbo setup, and it looks really f*cking cool when you purge. I say go for it.
post Apr 16, 2003 - 7:37 PM
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one time I was using NOS and it blew the welds on my intake manifold rolleyes.gif

then the floorpan fell out... haha
post Apr 16, 2003 - 8:24 PM
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Sounds like a movie to me. Fast N Furious did it.
post Apr 16, 2003 - 10:34 PM
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HA, Why did the floorpans fall off anyway, and what was spitting out those green bolts? : )

ANYWAY, N2O is great for the money. On an engine like ours it can last up to 15 seconds on one shot. (running it at low RPM's is REALLY bad though.)
post Apr 16, 2003 - 10:42 PM
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I think the easiest nitrous upgrades you can do is the Zex dry nitrous system. You can buy a Zex cone filter to put on an intake and it has a place to put the nitrous injecter so you dont have to drill a hole in your intake tube. It injects the nitrous into the intake so you don't need to do half as much installation with selenoids etc... Just install the nozzle with or without the Zex air filter (it just makes it easier with that) install the bottle, install the computer unit, run some wires and install arming switch. The nitrous is administered when the system is armed and your at wide open throttle so you can screw up the timing you should shoot.

takes like 3 hours sor so, and cost a lil over $500, up to 75 shot depending on injector but if you run that much you should retard your timing

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post Apr 16, 2003 - 11:53 PM
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Where didd u get the Zex kit and the filter for only 500 bucks?!?!?!


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post Apr 17, 2003 - 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (Matty19 @ Apr 16, 2003 - 10:55 AM)
depends on how big of a shot your gonna use, as to what modifications you need to do, also only use it at wide open throttle and above 3000 rpms. let me know exactly what your aiming for and i'll let you know how to do it.

im just looking at a normal 45 shot. whats needed to be done?
post Apr 17, 2003 - 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (deX @ Apr 16, 2003 - 9:27 PM)
im just looking at a normal 45 shot. whats needed to be done?

The most popular and safer kit for our cars is the Zex dry kit. I think they only have 55, 65, and 75 shot jets, but you can probably run either one fairly safely, without doing serious long-term damage to your car. Damage to your vehicle while running nitrious is all on the driver...

All you need for the install, a drill, screwdrivers, wire cutters/strippers, and cooler spark plugs. Running low shots, you can probably get away with not retarding the timing... but I can't say for sure. I've ran up to a 75 shot, with little problems. I only sprayed while racing, and it was always in mid 3000rpm, in either 2nd or 3rd gear. 2nd isn't very safe... but you can.
post Apr 17, 2003 - 6:19 AM
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How do you retard your timing ? And what does this mean?

post Apr 17, 2003 - 9:19 AM
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QUOTE (evolve @ Apr 17, 2003 - 3:33 AM)
How do you retard your timing ? And what does this mean?

2nd that!
post Apr 17, 2003 - 11:00 AM
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When using a shot of nitrous, what happens when you shift gears?

With most setups there is a WOT switch that only allows you to use nitrous when your at Wide Open Throttle. so when you shift gears and let off the gas does the nitrous shut off untill you floor it again?


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post Apr 17, 2003 - 5:10 PM
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the nitrous will go when you are pushing the button
so when you shift, just lift off the button
post Apr 17, 2003 - 5:47 PM
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Just get a zex kit, they are the easiest to use and install. All you have to do is drive the car, and the nitrous takes care of itself.
post Apr 17, 2003 - 8:42 PM
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so does the zex kit have like a button you push when you wanna use it or does it just come in whenever??
post Apr 17, 2003 - 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (evolve @ Apr 17, 2003 - 3:33 AM)
How do you retard your timing ? And what does this mean?

On the older 94-95 Celica's... retarding the timing is done simply by turning the distributor a certian number of negative degress. Of course, use a timing light and make sure you have your adjustments done correctly.

On the newer OBD-II 96-99 Celica's, adjusting the timing is done with an OBD tool (little computer gizmo)...

Retarding the timing means, basically, retards the ignition of the spark plug to fire slighty after TDC (top dead center, when the piston fully compresses the air/fuel misture).

As far as Nitrious engaging between shifts, when the throttle isn't wide open, I think it retards and delays until the throttle is wide open again before engaging. Like I mentioned before, try not to spray in 2nd, unless you know what you're doing. Spraying in 3rd gear is safer because unless you're gonna run 13's or 14's... you probably won't shift past 3rd in a 1/4 mile drag...=]

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