 1MZFE Swap into '95 Celica ST, The "V-Celica" |
 Sep 17, 2005 - 11:33 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%)  |
I'm thinking of swapping the 1MZFE V-6 from a Camry including the auto into my new Celica. Call it the V-Celica. I'll keep it auto since it's going to be my wife's car and she wants auto, plus it's unique that way.
Has it ever been done? -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 17, 2005 - 11:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '04 From phoenix az Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
do it to prove the people who say you cant do it...
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Sep 17, 2005 - 11:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(trdevelopment @ Sep 18, 2005 - 4:34 AM) do it to prove the people who say you cant do it... [right][snapback]335528[/snapback][/right] I don't think anyone here doubts that I can do it, but why do people say that? It's been done on a 5th gen before. -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 17, 2005 - 11:46 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
sweet idea except for the auto part.
-------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 18, 2005 - 12:06 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yes its been done tho
in a fifth gen 6 spd manual w/ a supercharger FTW -------------------- Sometimes we live to beat the odds.
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Sep 18, 2005 - 12:09 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(Akimbo @ Sep 18, 2005 - 5:06 AM) yes its been done tho in a fifth gen 6 spd manual w/ a supercharger FTW [right][snapback]335546[/snapback][/right] Which 6-speed did they use? -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 18, 2005 - 12:10 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Akimbo @ Sep 18, 2005 - 5:06 AM) yes its been done tho in a fifth gen 6 spd manual w/ a supercharger FTW [right][snapback]335546[/snapback][/right] Ahem... 5 speed... there are no 6 speeds boxes for FWD S/MZ series... otherwise the MR2 guys and 3SGTE guys woulda wet themselves a long time ago... ;] Anyway... so you're gonna let the wife keep the car. Hehe... I'd probably do the same actually... but IMO... buy a Camry if she wants a V6 auto. Gotta do the stick... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Sep 18, 2005 - 12:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 18, 2005 - 5:10 AM) QUOTE(Akimbo @ Sep 18, 2005 - 5:06 AM) yes its been done tho in a fifth gen 6 spd manual w/ a supercharger FTW [right][snapback]335546[/snapback][/right] Ahem... 5 speed... there are no 6 speeds boxes for FWD S/MZ series... otherwise the MR2 guys and 3SGTE guys woulda wet themselves a long time ago... ;] Anyway... so you're gonna let the wife keep the car. Hehe... I'd probably do the same actually... but IMO... buy a Camry if she wants a V6 auto. Gotta do the stick... [right][snapback]335548[/snapback][/right] Yeah I really don't know what I'm going to do yet, we'll see as time goes by. If I can get what I want for it, I'll sell it. Like I keep telling her, there'll be another 6th gen  But I like to kick ideas around 
This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Sep 18, 2005 - 12:16 AM -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 18, 2005 - 12:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
supercharged V6 5spd 6gc
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Sep 18, 2005 - 2:32 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Find a hatch 6th Gen and do the 1mz with a Supercharger/ 5spd manual transmission. You'll then be my hero.
-------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting. |
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Sep 18, 2005 - 11:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 17, 2005 - 11:37 PM) QUOTE(trdevelopment @ Sep 18, 2005 - 4:34 AM) do it to prove the people who say you cant do it... [right][snapback]335528[/snapback][/right] I don't think anyone here doubts that I can do it, but why do people say that? It's been done on a 5th gen before. [right][snapback]335531[/snapback][/right] cause alot of people on this site have the idea of its never been done before on a 6th gen it can't be done ... -------------------- |
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Sep 19, 2005 - 2:57 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Sep 18, 2005 - 5:47 AM) supercharged V6 5spd 6gc [right][snapback]335561[/snapback][/right] TT! |
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Sep 19, 2005 - 9:05 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 55 (100%) |
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This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Apr 4, 2012 - 8:04 PM -------------------- JDM guy made me do it.
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Sep 19, 2005 - 9:36 PM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Sep 19, 2005 - 10:05 PM) I would love to see it. I think it would get people pumped to keep pushing the envelope, trying new things builds technology, here and everywhere. At least the engine people. [right][snapback]336282[/snapback][/right] agreed DO IT DOC!
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Sep 19, 2005 - 10:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
soooo....how much to get a v6 5spd into my celi doc
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Sep 20, 2005 - 12:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '05 From toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
a swap like that has been done on a 5th gen ... he announced it on toyotanation
-------------------- I've learned my lesson... the best mod you can have for your car is a good alarm system
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Sep 20, 2005 - 12:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Sep 20, 2005 - 3:47 AM) soooo....how much to get a v6 5spd into my celi doc [right][snapback]336336[/snapback][/right] Is it auto or manual, and do you want to use the GT tranny (cheaper) or the E153 (stronger)? And I assume you want the 1MZFE? -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 20, 2005 - 9:39 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '04 From New York City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dan wants a jetta V6 engine in his celi
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Sep 20, 2005 - 10:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
Is it auto or manual, and do you want to use the GT tranny (cheaper) or the E153 (stronger)? And I assume you want the 1MZFE?
(ST 5spd is wat i have) wat ever tranny will hold a supachaga |
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Sep 20, 2005 - 10:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Sep 20, 2005 - 3:52 PM) Is it auto or manual, and do you want to use the GT tranny (cheaper) or the E153 (stronger)? And I assume you want the 1MZFE? (ST 5spd is wat i have) wat ever tranny will hold a supachaga [right][snapback]336453[/snapback][/right] Okay well you're going to want an E153 then. At least you don't need the auto/manual conversion. I'm pretty certain that we can score a decent 1MZFE for around $600, installation will be $900, the tranny with the axles and mounts and other BS will probably be close to another $1000, add another $1000 for the odds and ends... $3500... dang, that's a pretty good price! It's because the 1MZ is easier to get and there's no intercooler stuff to deal with. The tricky part of it will be... a. finding a 5-speed 1MZ or b. making an auto 1MZ ECU happy with no auto tranny attached to it (doable)
This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Sep 20, 2005 - 10:39 PM -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 23, 2005 - 1:41 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '05 From toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 20, 2005 - 10:39 PM) QUOTE(playr158 @ Sep 20, 2005 - 3:52 PM) Is it auto or manual, and do you want to use the GT tranny (cheaper) or the E153 (stronger)? And I assume you want the 1MZFE? (ST 5spd is wat i have) wat ever tranny will hold a supachaga [right][snapback]336453[/snapback][/right] Okay well you're going to want an E153 then. At least you don't need the auto/manual conversion. I'm pretty certain that we can score a decent 1MZFE for around $600, installation will be $900, the tranny with the axles and mounts and other BS will probably be close to another $1000, add another $1000 for the odds and ends... $3500... dang, that's a pretty good price! It's because the 1MZ is easier to get and there's no intercooler stuff to deal with. The tricky part of it will be... a. finding a 5-speed 1MZ or b. making an auto 1MZ ECU happy with no auto tranny attached to it (doable) [right][snapback]336756[/snapback][/right] there are a lot of 5spd solaras and camry's here in canada i'm assuming its the same down there in the states... best bet would be solaras since most camry owners prefer automatic -------------------- I've learned my lesson... the best mod you can have for your car is a good alarm system
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Sep 23, 2005 - 8:34 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
wouldnt you guys think that the engine size would be a great dif in weight in the celi. Make it more nose heavy? It would prolly help a good bit for the traction issues, but for handling? Id still love to see it.
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Sep 23, 2005 - 11:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Digndoug @ Sep 23, 2005 - 8:34 AM) wouldnt you guys think that the engine size would be a great dif in weight in the celi. Make it more nose heavy? It would prolly help a good bit for the traction issues, but for handling? Id still love to see it. [right][snapback]337589[/snapback][/right] the aluminum v6 is about the same weight as the 3sgte. To answer your question, weight would not be a real issue. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 23, 2005 - 12:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
even if weight is an issue....coilovers help to adjust the suspension properly
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Sep 23, 2005 - 1:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(jgreening @ Sep 23, 2005 - 9:55 AM) QUOTE(Digndoug @ Sep 23, 2005 - 8:34 AM) wouldnt you guys think that the engine size would be a great dif in weight in the celi. Make it more nose heavy? It would prolly help a good bit for the traction issues, but for handling? Id still love to see it. [right][snapback]337589[/snapback][/right] the aluminum v6 is about the same weight as the 3sgte. To answer your question, weight would not be a real issue. [right][snapback]337646[/snapback][/right] I believe it weighs less by about 40lbs. |
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Sep 23, 2005 - 1:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(FallenHero @ Sep 23, 2005 - 1:33 PM) QUOTE(jgreening @ Sep 23, 2005 - 9:55 AM) QUOTE(Digndoug @ Sep 23, 2005 - 8:34 AM) wouldnt you guys think that the engine size would be a great dif in weight in the celi. Make it more nose heavy? It would prolly help a good bit for the traction issues, but for handling? Id still love to see it. [right][snapback]337589[/snapback][/right] the aluminum v6 is about the same weight as the 3sgte. To answer your question, weight would not be a real issue. [right][snapback]337646[/snapback][/right] I believe it weighs less by about 40lbs. [right][snapback]337680[/snapback][/right] Until you get the supercharger on there
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 24, 2005 - 12:14 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(behindthesmile @ Sep 23, 2005 - 6:41 AM) there are a lot of 5spd solaras and camry's here in canada i'm assuming its the same down there in the states... best bet would be solaras since most camry owners prefer automatic [right][snapback]337554[/snapback][/right] But are they V6 5-speeds? -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 24, 2005 - 4:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '05 From toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 24, 2005 - 12:14 AM) QUOTE(behindthesmile @ Sep 23, 2005 - 6:41 AM) there are a lot of 5spd solaras and camry's here in canada i'm assuming its the same down there in the states... best bet would be solaras since most camry owners prefer automatic [right][snapback]337554[/snapback][/right] But are they V6 5-speeds? [right][snapback]337848[/snapback][/right] yeah as far as i know they are 5speeds with the 1mzfe engine -------------------- I've learned my lesson... the best mod you can have for your car is a good alarm system
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Sep 24, 2005 - 5:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(behindthesmile @ Sep 24, 2005 - 9:51 AM) QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 24, 2005 - 12:14 AM) QUOTE(behindthesmile @ Sep 23, 2005 - 6:41 AM) there are a lot of 5spd solaras and camry's here in canada i'm assuming its the same down there in the states... best bet would be solaras since most camry owners prefer automatic [right][snapback]337554[/snapback][/right] But are they V6 5-speeds? [right][snapback]337848[/snapback][/right] yeah as far as i know they are 5speeds with the 1mzfe engine [right][snapback]337877[/snapback][/right] Because the 5SFE with 5-speed is very common, it's the V6 5-speed that's hard to find. -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Sep 24, 2005 - 7:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '05 From Richmond, B.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Found one on the first page of listings on car-part.com -- 1998 Camry V6 transmission with 89,000 miles for $1000. Admittedly, it was the only manual V6 I saw on that page, but that was one of 46 pages of 1998 Camrys. I didn't bother widening my search beyond that one year.
They are uncommon compared to the autos, certainly, but there were so bloody many Camry/Solaras put out... |
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Oct 4, 2005 - 4:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Lincoln, Ar Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Its very possible, u just need the motor mounts of off the V-6 camry and put it into to your celica. Everything should bolt right up.
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