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post Jan 23, 2006 - 11:29 PM
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I race my own Mr2 today just to see whats it made of and it wooped my celi. I felt disappointed hoping it will win. Well the mr2 only beat the celi by a car link. But still im mad now. It cant be that slow. Im so tempted to do a 3sgte swap now. I thnk it could b my bald tires on my celi. But ima do another run tomorrow and video it. hope i beat it.


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post Jan 23, 2006 - 11:32 PM
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MR2's will hook up better. They are heavier though, but not by much. I'm debating a 3sgte with a lsd. It might fix the problems I thought would happen with that much power to the front wheels.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 12:16 AM
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a 5SFE MR2 will always beat a 5SFE Celica... mod for mod...


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Jan 23, 2006 - 10:32 PM) [snapback]383146[/snapback]

MR2's will hook up better. They are heavier though, but not by much. I'm debating a 3sgte with a lsd. It might fix the problems I thought would happen with that much power to the front wheels.


I had no tire spin on my 3sgte with the stock turbo and LSD without slipping the clutch. With the GT28RS, its another story.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jan 24, 2006 - 12:23 AM
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I thought last I checked the base mr2 was a tenth of a second slower in 0-60.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Jan 24, 2006 - 5:23 AM) [snapback]383187[/snapback]

I thought last I checked the base mr2 was a tenth of a second slower in 0-60.

my MR2 can run consistant 15.7's-15.9's... stock... I would imagine more loaded models (T tops, sunroof, etc) are only a few tenths behind at the most...

You gotta drive an MR2 first... and they do feel much different...

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post Jan 24, 2006 - 12:34 AM
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these sites really vary so, if one site says it's a tenth of a second faster in 0-60, dosen't mean it's true.

does anyone know of a good reliable site with 0-60 times?


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 7:04 AM
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the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 24, 2006 - 7:04 AM) [snapback]383338[/snapback]

the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?

Is that with the 5sfe? I thought the 15's was with the 3sgte.

EDIT: That's sad if it's only running high 15's with a turbo set up.

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post Jan 24, 2006 - 11:58 AM
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an NA mr2 runs mid 15s

my buddy had one back in the day. his car was always faster then mine, back when i was still NA. the mid engine rwd setup really makes a huge difference, you really have to drive one to know how it can put your in your seat, even with a 5sfe in it.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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[/quote]the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?[quote]

you don't have to be like that kindasad.gif my information was wrong, I asked if anyone knew a accurate site.

what are the 0-60 times in comparison of the models.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Jan 24, 2006 - 11:08 AM) [snapback]383425[/snapback]

the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?
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you don't have to be like that kindasad.gif my information was wrong, I asked if anyone knew a accurate site.

what are the 0-60 times in comparison of the models.


I find it interesting that you criticize the way Manny answered your question when you continually bash people in your posts. Thats hypocritical.

On another note, I am building a turbo V6 MR2 and aiming for 10's. It will have air conditioning and 200 ft /lbs by 3500 RPMs.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jan 24, 2006 - 1:06 PM
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A second and a haff difference just from engine placement? I know you guys know what your talking about, but it's just hard for me to wrap my mind around. It doesn't sound right. What is the reason for it being like this? Picks up that 1.5second on launch?


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 1:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Jan 24, 2006 - 1:06 PM) [snapback]383455[/snapback]

A second and a haff difference just from engine placement? I know you guys know what your talking about, but it's just hard for me to wrap my mind around. It doesn't sound right. What is the reason for it being like this? Picks up that 1.5second on launch?


its better to push (rwd) then the pull (fwd). the car is also a 2 seater and a lot smaller then a celica. i dont know if all the weight specs people post are correct, cause just by looking at the mr2 i would say its a lighter car, but who knows. all i can tell you is that my buddy was always able to floor in in 1st-3rd and it would throw me back in my seat, while my 5sfe was never able to do anything like that. he took his car to the track once and ran a 15.9.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 1:19 PM
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I think a NA MR2 might be the car for me then. I know these 5sfe's are good motors. I'm going to look into this.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 2:20 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Jan 24, 2006 - 6:19 PM) [snapback]383465[/snapback]

I think a NA MR2 might be the car for me then. I know these 5sfe's are good motors. I'm going to look into this.


As long as you dont need to carry anything around laugh.gif

They are GREAT cars though... very low maintence and good power band. Lasting 200k+ miles with few problems usually is the best part


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 2:23 PM
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RWD>FWD...


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 4:14 PM
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MR2s ARE in fact on average heavier than a celica.
I find the maintence is very dependant on who owned the car before you, and of couse, what you are planning on doing with it.
and since the question was posed and no answer was given, a stock MR2 turbo can run a mid 14 if in good health.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 5:05 PM
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QUOTE
I find it interesting that you criticize the way Manny answered your question when you continually bash people in your posts. Thats hypocritical.


Is this about the kid wanting to buy a stolen car? I usually only "bash" when it's really stupid conversation, and that conversation yesterday was by far the most extreme occasion where I have bashed.

That kid's question deserved to be bashed, it's common knowledge that what he was trying to do with his buddy is illegal. The question of the mr-2s 0-60 or quarter mile times, is not common knowledge because it's difficult to sometimes find accurate 0-60 times. I admitted that my info was inaccurate and asked for an accurate site for 0-60 times. I just feel some things are stupid questions, I answer questions like these sometimes in a mean way and if my question was stupid, I would have no problem with Manny giving me a reply typically reserved for n00bs.


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post Jan 24, 2006 - 5:14 PM
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1994 Toyota Celica GT 8.4 16.4

1990 Toyota MR2 Turbo 6.2 14.7
1991 Toyota MR2 8.5 16.3
1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo 6.1 14.7
1994 Toyota MR2 6.2 14.8

I simply went by these numbers and I was only looking at the 0-60. and I got it from a quick yahoo search.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/art.../0-60times.html
They even claim themselves that they aren't accurate, but these numbers are far off from ours. Anyone know of a list like this? Sometimes it's a pain in the ass if you're trying to research and compare 0-60 times.


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