the e-ram, my experience Options

[celicaST]

ok, first off, this is NOT a thread to debate whether this product is beneficial or not (ill put that to rest soon enough). ive argued the idea of an electric supercharger on the other thread, so NONE of that here. plus i guarantee you will lose the argument this thread is to document my experience with this controversial product. i realize im taking a gamble, but for $300 i figured i might as well. i wouldnt have bought it unless i was confident it would work. this is what im getting for those who dont know. it is a 833watt, 25000rpm motor capable of delivering 800 CFM in free air
2006 e-ram
it will be installed between the throttle body and the existing stock airbox so as to retain cold air intake. so ill be the guinea pig, and i will post my honest impressions after installation. before you ask, i will dyno only if i can find one nearby, and for a good price. if youre so inclined for proof, feel free to paypal me the expense
also, if all goes well, i plan to run the motor at 16.2 volts to increase its power to 1135 watts to increase boost pressure.

This post has been edited by celicaST: Feb 14, 2006 - 1:04 AM

[lagos]

good luck

[Blakout16]

this should be interesting O.o if it does work, u might go lean.

[GT4WRC]

If you were that desperate to waste $300, you could have sent it to me. I'd have put it to far better use
Gary

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

You're not going to use the new filter? I really think you should. The stock box is very restrictive and does not pull in that cold of air. It's a simple set up once you look at it. Stock box sucks. Have you taken it apart before and looked at how it was getting it's air? I suggest doing this before leaving it. You can just buy a little bit of piping and run an open filter in your fender. But I really think the stock air box will choke this thing down.

[Boss-Celica]

Honestly I would like to see this thing work. Good luck.

[burneeed]

good luck.............

[sugarfree]

Will you need a BOV also?

This post has been edited by sugarfree: Feb 14, 2006 - 1:11 PM

[TheStreetzKing]

you realize if this works everyones gonna be buying em haha

[Celicaca]

good luck man. reveal the truth!

[celicaST]

good luck

thanks, hopefully i wont need it

this should be interesting O.o if it does work, u might go lean.

i thought about that but i doubt it will go lean because its not going to provide that much boost. im in colorado so any boost it does provide (they advertise 1 psi, but im guessing .5 to .8) will be well within the operating parameters of the ecu and injectors to handle (at a mile in elevation, air density is around 12.5% lower than at sea level anyways).

If you were that desperate to waste $300, you could have sent it to me. I'd have put it to far better use
Gary

damn i would have given it to you!! too late now no, actually, im not really doing this so much for myself. the main reason im doing it is for the community to see if it is a valuable product.

You're not going to use the new filter? I really think you should. The stock box is very restrictive and does not pull in that cold of air. It's a simple set up once you look at it. Stock box sucks. Have you taken it apart before and looked at how it was getting it's air? I suggest doing this before leaving it. You can just buy a little bit of piping and run an open filter in your fender. But I really think the stock air box will choke this thing down.

ive looked at the possiblities to install it, and the reason i chose this is for simplicity and performance. i did not want to get a short ram and intake hot air for obvious reasons. the eram fits perfect as to my measurements in that location. i will be buying a k&n replacement filter though as well. also, this way it will look stock, wont have to buy piping (except for a short section) or relocate IAT sensor. youre right though, a modified cold air intake, such as the dr.cai, would be the best option, however. i just want to get it in quickly. if it works as well as i hope, i will get a cai set-up and mount two erams inline.

Will you need a BOV also?

haha, no

This post has been edited by celicaST: Feb 14, 2006 - 4:22 PM

[CelicaSTX02]

How are you planning to prove to people if this thing does work? Are you saying people should just take your word for it or are you gonna show some testing results (i.e dyno tests, videos or your runs w/ and w/out the eram, or g-tech testings).

[Predator]

why would he lie about such a thing anyways? it would only result in someone else buying the thing and be pissed and dissappointed when it doesn't live up to his expectations

[celicaST]

How are you planning to prove to people if this thing does work? Are you saying people should just take your word for it or are you gonna show some testing results (i.e dyno tests, videos or your runs w/ and w/out the eram, or g-tech testings).

good question, although i would hope people would take my word for it, i know thats not the case. im not working for eracing and i wouldnt want anybody else to waster 300 bucks if thats what happens to me. i will look for a dyno around here, but i wont if it its too much of an inconvenience, im not here to please everyone else i will post speedometer videos of it disconnected/connected, and my review will be detailed. again im not expecting drastic performance increase, however, i believe for 300 bucks it will produce more gains than exhaust, headers, intake would. anybody coming to the colorado meet can try it for themselves (hopefully by then ill be running it at 16.2volts and 1135 watts). i dont have a g-tech. i will make an effort to get a dyno done, because im interested in the actual results myself.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Check your 0-60 and 0-100 time now. And then check it again after you put the eram on. Buy a stop watch and have a friend watch your speedometer. This isn't the most accurate, but it will do something. The 0-100 should give us the best messurement. Make sure you test in the same place each time. Might want to do about 3 runs to make sure they're reliable. Like I said, it's not the best way, but it will tell you something.

[presure2]

from the eram website N/A mr2 (more than likely 5sfe)

my car with just the injen short ram with heatsheild.

[CheesyLobster]

I don't doubt that it wont work if the fan is of good quality. You won't need to worry about leanness at 1 psi. Like Manny showed, id expect about 5 hp.

Btw, that hooks into your tps and adjusts its power, right?

This post has been edited by CheesyLobster: Feb 14, 2006 - 8:25 PM

[celicaST]

I don't doubt that it wont work if the fan is of good quality. You won't need to worry about leanness at 1 psi. Like Manny showed, id expect about 5 hp.

Btw, that hooks into your tps and adjusts its power, right?

yes as long as the fan doesnt allow significant backflow and the motor is powerful, it will work. it does connect to the TPS, but it doesnt adjust power. the motor only turns on at WOT. it draws 60amps when its on so it can only be on during bursts to prevent overheating and draining the battery. manny do you have a dyno of you car without the injen? i assume both those runs were with it on.

by the way, should be here by next week sometime. im going to run some tests on it while its out of car before i install it.

[lagos]

from the eram website N/A mr2 (more than likely 5sfe)

my car with just the injen short ram with heatsheild.

for anyone not paying attention to the dyno sheet. the eram dyno lost about 10 hp compared to mannys bone stock 5sfe

[Batman722]

the moral of the story is this...

the 5s (MR2) is at 104.2 hp to the wheels stock
the eram added a +3.2 hp for a total of 107.4

Manny had his 5s dynoed (before the turbo) and he was at 114.6 and 115.1 hp (with only and Injen SR intake and stock cali-spec exhaust which has 2 cats).

anyway, $300 for 3 hp ? about $100 per pony. A swap with an average cost of $4000, starting out at 105 hp and ending up with about 190hp = about $47 per pony.

edit: spelling

This post has been edited by Batman722: Feb 14, 2006 - 10:08 PM