Spark Plugs, What kind is the best? |
Spark Plugs, What kind is the best? |
Apr 12, 2006 - 9:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 29, '06 From Regina, SK, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 38 (100%) |
I tried doing a search for what spark plugs people have used and have had good success with in their cars. Please let me know what type of spark plugs you are using and if they are good or bad and what experiences you have had with them if any. Also if you wouldn't mind saying what type of engine you have it installed on. Right now I have the 5SFE engine but am eventually wanting to go to a 3SGTE, any need to have different plugs for the two engine types?
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Apr 12, 2006 - 9:16 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
stock denso or ngk plugs are your best bet for the 5s/3s (at stock boost levels)/ 7a
when you up the boost on the 3s, most guys go with a 1 step colder plug. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Apr 12, 2006 - 9:37 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 1, '05 From rapid city, SD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ngk iridiums did my 3sfe well
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Apr 12, 2006 - 12:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 29, '06 From Regina, SK, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 38 (100%) |
Can you order the NGK's pregapped? What is the proper gap for the spark plugs?
Just looked on the NGK catalogue and it has the gap defined as 0.044, part number BKR6EIX-11 (Iridium IX). Does that gap sound correct? -------------------- |
Apr 12, 2006 - 12:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
QUOTE SPARK PLUG application.................NGK #....................Denso # 1.8L (7A-FE) ........... BKR5EYA ................ K16R-U 2.2L (5S-FE) .......... BKR6EP11 ............... PK20R11 4-CYLINDER SPARK PLUG SPECIFICATIONS application.................GAp#in.(mm)........Tq in FT/lb(n.m.)# 1.8L (7A-FE) ......... .031 (0.79) ............. 13 (18) 2.2L (5S-FE) ......... .043 (1.09) ............. 13 (18) toyota BGB This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 12, 2006 - 12:04 PM |
Apr 12, 2006 - 1:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have very good luck with boush platinum +4's. Other than the CAI, my engine is stock
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Apr 12, 2006 - 2:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 29, '06 From Regina, SK, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 38 (100%) |
Playr - Thanks for your post, you also answered my next question about the proper torque to tighten them with.
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Apr 13, 2006 - 4:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '05 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
for the beams engine what do you suggest guys?
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Apr 13, 2006 - 4:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '06 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(WALKER @ Apr 12, 2006 - 3:31 PM) [snapback]420702[/snapback] Playr - Thanks for your post, you also answered my next question about the proper torque to tighten them with. Check Playr's post again |
Apr 16, 2006 - 7:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '05 From Rochester, Massachusetts Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
i would have to agree with spunky, my bosch platinum +4's have treated me pretty well
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Apr 17, 2006 - 2:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '04 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I agree, Bosch +4's are doing well for me, too. I've had them in my car for almost 1.5 years and checked them for fouling three weeks ago. They were unbelievably clean and I still get good response and gas milage.
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Apr 18, 2006 - 10:39 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
So far I have not found anything better than the NGK Irridiums. Denso (stock plugs, wires etc) and NGK are the same company so going with stock and the upgrade in metals seems to make the most sense to me.
I had the Bosch Platinum +4's on my old 3s-GTE swapped 4th gen but a mechanic told me they were causing problems with my pistons (I think he said they were burning the tops of the pistons or something). -------------------- |
Apr 18, 2006 - 10:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From Thornton, CO. Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Bosch* +4s are engineered for euro cars, why would you put em into a jap import?? I have NGK irridiums in mine, runs pretty good.
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Apr 19, 2006 - 12:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '04 From Oakdale, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Not trying to hijack but I have a question
Alright I plan on running between a 35 and 50 shot of nitrous for a little fun this summer and wanted to do things as safely as possible. I've read up and people have been saying that NGK plugs are good for nitrous from my understanding and that you're supposed to run a step or two colder so the spark doesn't blow. Can somebody help me find what plug I should get or point me in the right direction. I know I’m a noob but want to do it as safely as possible. -------------------- -Brad
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Apr 19, 2006 - 7:01 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
then 1 step colder you want
BKR7E 2 steps BKR8E |
Apr 19, 2006 - 8:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Lincoln, Ar Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Spark plugs are just a matter of psychology matters: this works better, that one works better, this has iridium tips and that one has platnium tips.
Either way you look at it, its all taste and preference and for a 7afe engine I would just stick to the cheap $1-2 spark plugs, cause it wont do you any better to run Irdium Plugs that cost $5-8. Spark plugs do not make you gain any more HP than wat came stock on your engine, unless of course you didn't gap it right, it does lag like crap. Unless u have a high performance engine, tick with cheapo! |
Apr 19, 2006 - 8:27 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
QUOTE(soulshadow @ Apr 19, 2006 - 9:20 AM) [snapback]423437[/snapback] Spark plugs are just a matter of psychology matters: this works better, that one works better, this has iridium tips and that one has platnium tips. Either way you look at it, its all taste and preference and for a 7afe engine I would just stick to the cheap $1-2 spark plugs, cause it wont do you any better to run Irdium Plugs that cost $5-8. Spark plugs do not make you gain any more HP than wat came stock on your engine, unless of course you didn't gap it right, it does lag like crap. Unless u have a high performance engine, tick with cheapo! this is kinda of a dumb statement.... the heat range on which you're selecting has an effect on what your motor runs like as well as a proper gap... iridiums will work well on a naturally aspirated car but on a forced feed car...now thats a different story i think import tuner or someone came out with a rather large spread on spark plug information... but its not "psychology" there is a proper way to do spark plugs... http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/techinfo/spar...=31000&country= tech info on plugs This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 19, 2006 - 8:30 AM |
Apr 19, 2006 - 8:30 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Agreed.
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Apr 19, 2006 - 8:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '04 From Oakdale, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 7:01 AM) [snapback]423416[/snapback] then 1 step colder you want BKR7E 2 steps BKR8E Thanks -------------------- -Brad
95 GSX: Stock motor, fp3065, corn = 10.9 @ 140 06 R6: Strappd and sprocketed = 11.0 @ 127 01 a4: daily 94 Celica: totaled - someday have another celica thats fast instead of looks cool |
Apr 19, 2006 - 2:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 29, '06 From Regina, SK, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 38 (100%) |
One more question that I am going to throw out there in regards to the 1 step colder plug (ie. BKR7E vs. BKR6E). It was mentioned that when going with the 3S engine some go one step colder, also now been brought up with regards to nitrous application.
Is there a negative side to going with a BKR6E on a 5S engine? Not that I am planning on doing that, just curious to find out what possible problems (if any) you could run into if you went with 1 or 2 steps colder than recommended. -------------------- |
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