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post Jun 19, 2006 - 1:13 PM
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Ok everyone. I was installing the last Tein S-Tech lowering sring and I rounded off the sway bar bolt. The actual inner piece that requires an allen key/wrench is the rounded off part. What are my options for fixing this? Anyone else have this problem? I'm kind of at a standstill until I come up with something and I'm fresh outta ideas.
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Any ideas? Any one?

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post Jun 19, 2006 - 1:51 PM
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Drill away...

This happened on my AllTrac, had to drill out the sway bar end links and buy new ones. I hate living in rust belt!


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 2:31 PM
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I just found out a sure fire way to get these off, except everyone I talked to told me not to waste my time to post it...

Drill it out!

Anyways Those suck, I have a brand new OEM toyota peice if your interested.

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post Jun 19, 2006 - 2:33 PM
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I did the same thing to mine. You can drill them out like they are saying or just cut them off, either way you are looking at getting some new ones.


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 2:44 PM
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sometimes a 14mm deep socket with air impact will get it off.


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 3:36 PM
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grind it out or drill it. same thing happened to my prizm.


if you dont have one, get an electric impact gun. i beleive pepboys has a nice kit for $100 that includes a 400 or 500lb gun and a flip socket set.

then get a good set of metric impacts, sears has a set thats 12-27mm for about $60. trust me, you'll love it! you're not going to get those knuckle bolts off by hand as easily as you can with the impact. also while you're out get a 4 foot peice of thick wall gas/water pipe from the hardware depot, in whatever size fits over most of your wrenches and your breaker bar. also, get a breaker bar! ratchets dont like to be piped and they will break!


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 5:23 PM
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electric doesnt have much power, i used a makita hi-end electric impact and it barely got the job done and the bolts were tight since i just worked on my suspension not to long ago.


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 5:46 PM
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I had to use a saw-zaw to cut mine off. I just made new ones.
post Jun 19, 2006 - 7:27 PM
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I have an impact gun... hooked up to our air compressor tank... Pretty nice and pretty powerful.... But how would that work? I mean the how to says that you must hold that nut in place while unscrewing with the allen wrench... So I don't see how an impact gun would any? For those of you who broke yours or cut them off... How much were new ones and where did you get them? Thanks in advance smile.gif


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 7:32 PM
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QUOTE(LewFX @ Jun 19, 2006 - 5:23 PM) [snapback]446432[/snapback]

electric doesnt have much power, i used a makita hi-end electric impact and it barely got the job done and the bolts were tight since i just worked on my suspension not to long ago.

it depends on the electric, if the makita was cordless...well thats the problem.


i have a 240FT/lb corded impact and a 460FT/lb air impact. ive used them both equally and i enjoy the ease of the electric. a 500ft/lb electric is more than enough power for suspension. just remember not to ride the trigger too long or else you can burn out the motor.

QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 19, 2006 - 7:27 PM) [snapback]446471[/snapback]

I have an impact gun... hooked up to our air compressor tank... Pretty nice and pretty powerful.... But how would that work? I mean the how to says that you must hold that nut in place while unscrewing with the allen wrench... So I don't see how an impact gun would any? For those of you who broke yours or cut them off... How much were new ones and where did you get them? Thanks in advance smile.gif

get a wrench on the other side and wedge it agaist the car body or the ground. or use that pipe i mentioned....stick the box end over the bolt head and the open end down the pipe, then turn the bolt till the pipe is wedge against the ground. then use the impact.


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 8:17 PM
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i just used a air impact gun with a 14mm deep socket and fired away, came off without any other wrench or allen...also sprayed on some pb blaster...they are about $40 each at kragens, chucks or parts america or toyota has em for 50-60 each

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post Jun 19, 2006 - 9:05 PM
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I found this out from toyota perfomance first hand.

Impact Gun
14mm Deep Socket
Wire Brush Wheel For drill / Air grinder
PB blaster

Grind the crap outta the threads so there all shiney and new looking
Soak it all in PB Blaster
Hit it with the gun till it comes shooting off, Did it 9 times between my cars worked perfect everytime.

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post Jun 19, 2006 - 10:47 PM
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OK here is the PROVEN "JDM Guy" way of getting it off....(Manny - presure2 - is a genius)

get some needle nose vise grips and grab BEHIND the sway bar bolt (behind the sway bar - there is just enough room to get it back there and hold it) and use a socket to get the nut off. Hold the vise grips firmly in place and PB Blast the nut and then turn. It will come off. No need to cut (believe me, I have cut the ones on my ST - took forever - and this way was used on my GT). No nee to mess with the stripped stuff - trust me. Also, I would reccomend replacing the link just incase you rip the boot.


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jun 19, 2006 - 11:47 PM) [snapback]446537[/snapback]

OK here is the PROVEN "JDM Guy" way of getting it off....(Manny - presure2 - is a genius)

get some needle nose vise grips and grab BEHIND the sway bar bolt (behind the sway bar - there is just enough room to get it back there and hold it) and use a socket to get the nut off. Hold the vise grips firmly in place and PB Blast the nut and then turn. It will come off. No need to cut (believe me, I have cut the ones on my ST - took forever - and this way was used on my GT). No nee to mess with the stripped stuff - trust me. Also, I would reccomend replacing the link just incase you rip the boot.

ok behind the bolt someone mentioned that a 14mm socket would fit over it... if it will then wouldn't this be easier or did i miss interpret them when they mentioned a 14mm socket? Thanks guys and if "JDM Guy" says it's peachy then i'll give it a go, although honestly i'm not sure what u mean bu "replacing the link just incase you rip the boot" could you clarify?


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 11:09 PM
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just buy 2 new ones and prepared to toss the old ones, might as well replace em if they old


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 11:13 PM
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sure, end links wear over time and there is a rubber boot over the ends of the links that is filled with fluid. If you mishandle or tear the boot, the fluid leaks out (and dries up) and the link does not swivel like it should causing a lack of responcive handling.

basicaly, if you rip the boot, replace.

just some quick info, you do not turn the bolt (with the allen wrench) EVER - that is how you strip it easily. You hold the allen wrench in the and with an open ended wrench you turn the nut (14mm). By the JDM Guy method you are still achieving the same thing, just not using the allen wrench (which does get stripped because of the parts being seized). The needle nose vise grips grabs the end bolt BEHIND the sway bar and hold it firmly (instead of usiong the allen wrench) and you have leverage. The just PB and use a ratchet & socket to get the nut off. End of lesson.


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post Jun 19, 2006 - 11:24 PM
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na na na na na na na na na na na batmannnn, sorry had to do it


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post Jun 21, 2006 - 6:05 PM
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the "JDM Guy" way works 10x better.... I would suggest needle nose pliers w/ a vice grip option on them.... My dad had one of these and it worked amazingly well. Thanks smile.gif Once I get my front passenger side bearings changed i'm goo to go smile.gif


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post Jun 22, 2006 - 8:01 AM
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QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 21, 2006 - 7:05 PM) [snapback]447360[/snapback]

the "JDM Guy" way works 10x better.... I would suggest needle nose pliers w/ a vice grip option on them.... My dad had one of these and it worked amazingly well. Thanks smile.gif Once I get my front passenger side bearings changed i'm goo to go smile.gif

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post Jun 22, 2006 - 8:42 AM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jun 19, 2006 - 11:47 PM) [snapback]446537[/snapback]

OK here is the PROVEN "JDM Guy" way of getting it off....(Manny - presure2 - is a genius)

just wanted to say it again smile.gif


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