I admit it, I'm the ricer |
I admit it, I'm the ricer |
Nov 5, 2006 - 6:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
So, I went to the norcal JDM theory meet. I was one of 2 6gcs there, but if anyone goes on any other car forums, particularly evo forums, you'll probably hear about some "dumbass ricer in a celica"
coming off the freeway onramp only a matter of blocks away, I was trying to keep up with the EVO in front of me who was going pretty damn fast. well, somewhere around 60-70 mph on this 35mph offramp my car car lost traction and I started sliding FF drift style. now, all of a sudden the weight transfer throws my car in the total opposite direction, the car jumps over a curb, and according to my friend driving behind me, all four wheels were over a foot of the ground at one point. I flew over the small dirt embankment (a good 3ft drop.) and was now going the wrong way on a one way onramp... lucky for me there were no other cars coming that direction. anyway, I pulled over in a parking lot to examine the damage. honestly, there is some scratches on my front bumper, and the center crossmember is pretty scratched, other than that, no damage. I was EXTREMELY lucky. I was also the laughing stock of the entire show. but I'm alive, and my car is alive. and I think I'm going to start driving more careful now. the end. go ahead. criticize me, I deserve it. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Nov 5, 2006 - 6:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 28, '05 From USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
6gc GT vs. EVO 8/9 =
unless i was pushing over 200 hp i wouldn't even think of running with an evo |
Nov 5, 2006 - 7:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 25, '06 From South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
tell me you didnt show up to the meet after that?
ya that stinks, but im glad it didnt turn out to bad. -------------------- |
Nov 5, 2006 - 7:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Its fun to pretend.
But dont pretend your cars fast. -------------------- |
Nov 5, 2006 - 7:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(Griff @ Nov 5, 2006 - 4:00 PM) [snapback]499682[/snapback] tell me you didnt show up to the meet after that? ya that stinks, but im glad it didnt turn out to bad. yeah, I went to the meet after that... where the guy in the evo I was following just laughed at me, then went on to tell other people, and it spread like wildfire and everyone there was talking about it and I just overheard bits and pieces like "dumbass ricer in a celica..." I didn't stay long though. there wasn't much interesting to see. just a bunch of S2000s and 7th gen celicas mostly. oh, and for the record I wasn't trying to race the evo, he was just driving pretty fast but not flooring it, so I tried to catch up (by flooring it...) If I had AWD like him, I probably wouldn't have had such a sudden loss of traction like I did. This post has been edited by 6strngs: Nov 5, 2006 - 7:11 PM -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Nov 5, 2006 - 7:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 5, 2006 - 7:08 PM) [snapback]499684[/snapback] QUOTE(Griff @ Nov 5, 2006 - 4:00 PM) [snapback]499682[/snapback] tell me you didnt show up to the meet after that? ya that stinks, but im glad it didnt turn out to bad. yeah, I went to the meet after that... where the guy in the evo I was following just laughed at me, then went on to tell other people, and it spread like wildfire and everyone there was talking about it and I just overheard bits and pieces like "dumbass ricer in a celica..." I didn't stay long though. there wasn't much interesting to see. just a bunch of S2000s and 7th gen celicas mostly. oh, and for the record I wasn't trying to race the evo, he was just driving pretty fast but not flooring it, so I tried to catch up (by flooring it...) If I had AWD like him, I probably wouldn't have had such a sudden loss of traction like I did. 100 % agree with you on that, that's why I don't race anything -------------------- |
Nov 5, 2006 - 7:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 7, '03 From Northern Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
you're trying to go 60-70 on a 35mph exit with stock suspension?
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Nov 5, 2006 - 8:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '05 From Southern California Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
man that sucks.. i would of been way too embarrassed to go to the meet afterwards
as long as you learned from the experience you shouldn't be too hard on yourself... you did get really lucky though that you didn't get yourself or someone else hurt -------------------- |
Nov 5, 2006 - 8:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 25, '06 From Box Elder, South Dakota Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
lol, stuff like this happens bro, and yeah, you need to be thanking wahtever god you pray to, lol.....anywho, like airfron said, as long as you learn from it, dont worry too much about it....
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Nov 5, 2006 - 8:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '05 From dallas Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Sorry i laughed, just thinkin about a persons reaction when a cars off the ground going into a ditch makes me laugh.
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Nov 5, 2006 - 8:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 2, '06 From Socal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol
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Nov 5, 2006 - 9:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
yeah.. we all do dumb things.. but what's important, like everyone said, is that you learn from it.
i was a 'ricer' at one point and i tried going through a small S-curve with my old car leading out of the freeway.... in the snow. i managed to do it going 70kms with my 4th gen when it's only a 40km/h exit before but i tried it again another day and i did the first curve no problem but then i was too much at an angle that i couldn't countersteer enough to do the second.. i was a going outside off the desired line and ran up the snowbank from the front tire only and back down on the road.. checked to see if there were any damages and luckily, there was none.. i learned from my mistake... ... now i only go 60 kms... lol. j/k -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Nov 5, 2006 - 11:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '06 From Nashville Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
to bad you didnt have a huge ass ricer wing..you would have probably had the down force to hold you down..hehe
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Nov 6, 2006 - 3:02 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(Shocker @ Nov 5, 2006 - 8:33 PM) [snapback]499776[/snapback] to bad you didnt have a huge ass ricer wing..you would have probably had the down force to hold you down..hehe but I thought the cool grooves in my *unpainted* VIS bullet fenders were for that! yes, I admit my car looks hella rice right now. but, I just got a call tonight that the rest of my bodykit is in, probably picking it up tomorrow, then it'll be off for paint real soon. I'm just so glad that I decided NOT to put my JDM front extensions on before the meet (which I almost did) because they would probably be toast by now... anyway, yeah, my friend driving behind me said I was going 60-70, but now that I really think back, I think I was in second gear at around 5500 RPMs when I lost traction... so probably closer to 40-45 mph. and I really don't know what the speed limit was on that offramp, for all I know it was 25mph, it was fairly sharp. I think the problem was I was still accellerating into the turn. but it's really not that I lost traction that threw me over, it was that after losing traction the car jerks REALLY sharp in the opposite direction afterwards... I dunno if it's cause I try to countersteer or what (I don't really remember what I tried to do) I think I need some FF driving lessons... This post has been edited by 6strngs: Nov 6, 2006 - 3:03 AM -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Nov 6, 2006 - 4:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From Aurora IL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
your suspension is completely stock, and you have zero dollars invested in decent rubber/wheels on your car. you're trying to act fast & furious in a sporty grocery getter, you may as well have been in a ford tempo.
take a look at this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_wheel_d...ont_wheel_drive there are too many disadvantages to using FWD as a platform for racing. it isn't designed for it. keep in mind that car manufacturers designed front wheel drive for one reason - cost. you have been lulled in to a false sense of security because you THINK your car handles great, when in fact, it handles like **** in comparison to any rwd/awd car. people on here believe that the 6th gens are gods gift to ultimate handling, and they're completely wrong. they're always going to handle like ****, because they're FWD cars. drive safe, if a cop catches you doing this ****, or you hurt someone, you'll wish you drove like a grandma. take it from someone who is currently riding on 3 tickets, it isn't fun. This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Nov 6, 2006 - 4:10 AM |
Nov 6, 2006 - 4:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
If you're at those sort of RPM's in second gear going around a sharp corner, its going to break loose, period. All that happened was massive ammounts of understeer since your front wheels were trying to plant the power to the ground and handle the corner all at once......not going to happen, the car will just lose control.
At least you learned your lesson though, discretion should always be used while driving and fortunately you and your car are both safe. Just don't drive like that again and you won't need any lessons. haha. -------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting. |
Nov 6, 2006 - 4:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '04 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
I'm glad nothing too bad happened to your car, and that you're OK.
Going 70 on a 35 ramp is really pushing it... -------------------- |
Nov 6, 2006 - 5:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '05 From green springs ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(sinner96ST @ Nov 6, 2006 - 4:09 AM) [snapback]499850[/snapback] your suspension is completely stock, and you have zero dollars invested in decent rubber/wheels on your car. you're trying to act fast & furious in a sporty grocery getter, you may as well have been in a ford tempo. take a look at this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_wheel_d...ont_wheel_drive there are too many disadvantages to using FWD as a platform for racing. it isn't designed for it. keep in mind that car manufacturers designed front wheel drive for one reason - cost. you have been lulled in to a false sense of security because you THINK your car handles great, when in fact, it handles like **** in comparison to any rwd/awd car. people on here believe that the 6th gens are gods gift to ultimate handling, and they're completely wrong. they're always going to handle like ****, because they're FWD cars. drive safe, if a cop catches you doing this ****, or you hurt someone, you'll wish you drove like a grandma. take it from someone who is currently riding on 3 tickets, it isn't fun. i dont want to arguee with you but at a controled event that me and my friend went to i was able to out corner his porche 944 ,all though he was stock and i was modded ,i was able to run a better lap then him but it wasnt by much and his dads mustang could not keep up -------------------- |
Nov 6, 2006 - 5:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '06 From Colorado Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It is about getting the "feel" of any car or truck.
Pirelli tires and some 5 spoke lightweight BBS rims turned the already somehat stiff suspention on my olds to a ground hugging mofo after I learned what it could and couldn't handle. A leaf blower and some nawwwzz and I will have a true sleeper. |
Nov 7, 2006 - 10:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '06 From Chile Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
glad to hear ur car had almost no damage and u learned something
btw someone correct me but in a ff car when going to the limit at a curve isnt that u dont have to accelerate or you will produce understeer? just doing when u r on the desired direction after the apex? This post has been edited by DeathWing: Nov 7, 2006 - 10:37 PM |
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