New brake pads and rotors, which ones? Options

[6strngs]

Alright, my car has been in need of some new brakes for a while now, I figure it's time I get some in, especially since my uncle who is coming out for christmas said he would help me install them. Anyway, I want to go with a cross-drilled or a drilled and slotted rotor. I saw the drilled/slotted rotors on nopi, but they're pretty expensive. I also saw some on irotors.com that were only $229 for the front and back. (plus an extra $50 for zinc plating on them, but I figure that that is only for rust protection, and since I live in cali, rusting rotors really isn't a problem. so I shouldn't need the zinc plating, right?) so, does anyone know if they are any good?

And I don't know what kind of pads to get. I've heard good and bad about EBC greenstuff pads. And I've heard that Hawk pads were pretty good. I want something that can be used on my daily driver, but are an upgrade from stock that will hold up to aggressive braking, and possibly even autocrossing one day. I don't really know the pros/cons of ceramics vs. regular pads so I don't know which I need.

thanks in advance for any help!

[hurley97]

ceramic pads are quieter than metallic and supposedly leave less brake dust and can withstand higher temperatures.

as for drilled vs slotted... some say drilled compromise the structural integrity of the rotors, they do provide faster cooling but are more prone to cracking or warping and are mainly for use on the track (although I know lots of people who have them without any problems). slotted still provide a good amount of cooling without too much change in structure and might be a better bet for street/daily use. also keep in mind that if either drilled or slotted become warped you cannot have them shaved down, you have to get a brand new set.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Dec 4, 2006 - 7:51 PM

[Bitter]

Hawk HPS pads and powerslot rotors always seem to make a good combo.

[CelicaST202]

Hawk HPS pads and powerslot rotors always seem to make a good combo.

+1 my bro has it on his MR2 turbo

[Bitter]

i love them on the prizm, same weight and almost the same sized brakes as the ST. the car stops great!

[LewFX]

ceramic pads are quieter than metallic and supposedly leave less brake dust and can withstand higher temperatures.

as for drilled vs slotted... some say drilled compromise the structural integrity of the rotors, they do provide faster cooling but are more prone to cracking or warping and are mainly for use on the track (although I know lots of people who have them without any problems). slotted still provide a good amount of cooling without too much change in structure and might be a better bet for street/daily use. also keep in mind that if either drilled or slotted become warped you cannot have them shaved down, you have to get a brand new set.

you can trim cross drilled rotors with no problems according to this place that i went to

[6strngs]

so, from what I see, Hawk makes a their HPS, HP plus, and cermaic pads for the front, but they only make HPS for the back. So if I went with the irotors cross drilled and slotted rotors, and HPS pads on all wheels it should be a good set-up for my needs, right? or should I go with a different pad for the front?

[dustin15brown]

I have cross drilled and slotted in my fronts and rears... no problems at all... I also have ceramic pads, which I will say cause less brake dust... My wheels definitely stay cleaner for longer...

ceramic pads are quieter than metallic and supposedly leave less brake dust and can withstand higher temperatures.

as for drilled vs slotted... some say drilled compromise the structural integrity of the rotors, they do provide faster cooling but are more prone to cracking or warping and are mainly for use on the track (although I know lots of people who have them without any problems). slotted still provide a good amount of cooling without too much change in structure and might be a better bet for street/daily use. also keep in mind that if either drilled or slotted become warped you cannot have them shaved down, you have to get a brand new set.

you can trim cross drilled rotors with no problems according to this place that i went to

Lew nailed it.... cross drilled and slotted, or any combo and be trimmed.... just have to find a place that correctly does it... Many places are not able to or simply will not try because it's a lot harder to actually do... but reagardless... they can be done

[Kadett]

Use Ferodo brake pads.

Still dont know why people who use there car for 99.9% as a Daily Driver want to place rotors with less contact surface by using Cross/Drilled/Slotted rotors.

Better replace your brake lines for stailbraided ones.

[6strngs]

Use Ferodo brake pads.

Still dont know why people who use there car for 99.9% as a Daily Driver want to place rotors with less contact surface by using Cross/Drilled/Slotted rotors.

Better replace your brake lines for stailbraided ones.

heat dissipation, and it disperses water... other than that, they just look really cool

and I plan on getting some steelbraided lines, but they shouldn't have to be done at the same time as your pads/rotors do they? as far as I know, you can change your pads/rotors without even opening up the brake line. and when you do install braided lines, you are only replacing the solid straight lines that run down the car, and not the short flexible pieces that connect to the caliper itself. Therefore, I can get the braided lines later on when I can afford them, and just get these now (since my parents agreed to lend me some money to get new brakes, but they won't give me money to replace something that doesn't otherwise need replacing, and I'll have to do that with my own money once I have some)

[JonMarkos]

Hawk HPS pads and powerslot rotors always seem to make a good combo.

I don't think powerslot makes rotors for our cars, I know they don't make it for a 97 Vert.

[Negative]

as far as I know, you can change your pads/rotors without even opening up the brake line.

True.

and when you do install braided lines, you are only replacing the solid straight lines that run down the car, and not the short flexible pieces that connect to the caliper itself.

Not true. They replace the flexible part. The real benifit of them is they don't expand like the OEM rubber lines causing additional time/effort to apply braking pressure. You will notice that the braided ones seem to work more "positively" or just brake quicker/easier. Hard to explain but i loved the ones I installed on the 4th gen and it's def in the works for when I start my brake upgrade project.

[Bitter]

Hawk HPS pads and powerslot rotors always seem to make a good combo.

I don't think powerslot makes rotors for our cars, I know they don't make it for a 97 Vert.

they do not specifically, but do camry rotors fit?

[JonMarkos]

Hawk HPS pads and powerslot rotors always seem to make a good combo.

I don't think powerslot makes rotors for our cars, I know they don't make it for a 97 Vert.

they do not specifically, but do camry rotors fit?

I'm not sure, I just sent powerslot another e-mail asking them if camry rotors will fit, I'll let you know when I hear back from them.

[Kadett]

as far as I know, you can change your pads/rotors without even opening up the brake line.

True.

and when you do install braided lines, you are only replacing the solid straight lines that run down the car, and not the short flexible pieces that connect to the caliper itself.

Not true. They replace the flexible part. The real benifit of them is they don't expand like the OEM rubber lines causing additional time/effort to apply braking pressure. You will notice that the braided ones seem to work more "positively" or just brake quicker/easier. Hard to explain but i loved the ones I installed on the 4th gen and it's def in the works for when I start my brake upgrade project.

What he said:

When you brake hard the Brake Oil will go hot and make your rubber flexibel brake lines soft. So instead of only pumping the oil to your calipers they will also expand a bit. With steel braided lines you dont have this effect thus it mean you have a straighter brake feel.

[JonMarkos]

I just got an email back from Powerslot, they informed me that their Camry rotors will not fit on our cars.

[Bitter]

well thats too bad

[6gsillyca]

So does ANY powerslot rotor fit on our cars? Is there any slotted rotor that fits the celica? I was looking for a set of reputable slotted rotors but can only find ebay knockoffs.

Does anyone know what the irotors.com rotors look like? I wasnt able to find a description of any sort on their website, as to what kind of rotors/pads you get when you order (solid, vented, xdrilled, slotted, x/slotted, hawk pads, ebc, axxis etc), just the prices.

This post has been edited by 6gsillyca: Dec 11, 2006 - 1:53 AM

[LewFX]

im selling front and rear crossed drilled and slotted rotors.

[6strngs]

im selling front and rear crossed drilled and slotted rotors.

what kind? what price? and are they new or used?