 3sgte swap into a Vert, can it handle the power ? |
 May 27, 2007 - 1:03 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined May 13, '07 From riverside, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
So i am planing to put in a 3S-GTE into my 97 Vert , i did some research and everyone says that it is favourible to put reinforcment to the chasis and the unibody and stuff in order for it to handle the new found power ! , on a convertble which already have reinforcments in order to make up for the loos of a complete body ( NO TOP! LOL ) , so can it handle the power ??
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May 27, 2007 - 1:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sure it does. jgreening also had a Vert with swapped 3S-GTE.
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May 27, 2007 - 1:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Dont spend money on supports until after the swap is complete. It isn't necessary and you may decide you don't need it if the cowl shake is livable.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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May 27, 2007 - 2:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '07 From riverside, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok , thank you guys for the answers , i have another question and its not worth a whole new thread , will a 3sgte fit under the stock hood ? or do i need to buy a GT4 style one ?? which is one is better for the motor ?
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May 27, 2007 - 4:41 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
most 3s swapper get rid of the stock ic for a fmic unless its the water-to-air one. i believe the top mount just barely fits under the stock hood, but a fmic would be better for your motor.
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May 27, 2007 - 5:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '07 From riverside, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well that sucks , i always liked the look of the intercooler mounted on top of the engine , but i can live with a fmic
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May 27, 2007 - 6:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You don't want the stock a/a top mount intercooler that came with the second gen 3sgte in the 5th Gen alltrac (ST185). It really needs a scoop to be effective and even then is not made for more than stock boost. However, I concur with you that a FMIC has its draw backs in the looks department if you are trying to stay sleeper like I was. What I did was paint mine black and it basically disappeared. The other option is to buy a w/a intercooler that came with the 6th gen GT4 (ST205). It is much better for intercooling than the previous A/A topmount.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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May 27, 2007 - 6:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '07 From riverside, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i am going for a 3rd gen , they are about 500$ more and have like 50-60 more HP and have the W/a intercooler
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May 28, 2007 - 1:27 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '07 From riverside, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok , this might sound irrelevent but i need some opinions
 ... i just spend the last 3 hours researching about the 3SGTE , how to swap into a GT , problems .. my mechanical experience is really low , i just know how things go and whats what but i really cant do much with my own hands ... i love my celica , our 6g are probably my favourite cars on the road and i really want to do a 3s-gte swap in the future , now here is the problem , considering that the car is not really comon , it will be hard to find a shop that knows the swap and can do it nicely ( i dont want my tranny to be mounted in a wrong way , or to have my A/c not wired up and all the other issues related ) ... so what do i do ?? keep on trying ? or just save up , sell it and buy a GTI ( only turbo car i can afford and i HATE IT ) ... any suggections ... i am really starting to feel that this is a bit too complicated for me 
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May 28, 2007 - 3:43 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
save up while you research and learn more. a lot of swap experts here were once in your position. or you can just ship the car out to a pro like dr tweak.
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May 28, 2007 - 12:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '07 From riverside, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well , my main problem is not just that i dont have experience , i dont have tools nor the palce to do it .. its that bad lol , and shiping the car is an option , but doctor tweak is in NY(right) , how long will it take ?? i cant live without my car ... do any body know any swap experts here is So-Cal ??
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May 28, 2007 - 6:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 20, '06 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 44 (100%) |
I did my swap with little to no expereience, i had my wiring done by doc tweak (mailed him the harnesses) and while that was away i worked on the rest. There are a decent amount of people in so-cal on the site with car expereience and im sure they would help out. For me it was an incredible learning expereince that really got me interested in working on my car myself.
it will take longer and you will have to redo some of your own work, but the knowledge gained is worth the time and effort!  PS: i borrowed an engine hoist and bought tools as needed This post has been edited by jcbass7: May 28, 2007 - 6:14 PM |
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May 28, 2007 - 9:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '07 From riverside, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well doing it on my own is defentily out of the question , i dont think i can do it , i know my mechanical skills and it is not that advanced !! so SO-CAL people : is there anybody in socal that can do my engine swap professionally ?? anybody !
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