Plasma Direct/Booster Ignition System, anyone heard of this? Options

[jcbass7]

ok so reading my magazine i ran across this

Okada Plasma Direct

Its an ignition amplifying system that appears to actually do something instead of just creating an electrical fire..

they have the direct plug and play for the 3s-ge engine, would that plug into a 3sgte engine?

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Sep 18, 2007 - 6:02 PM

[BloodyStupidDave...]

ok so reading my magazine i ran across this

Okada Plasma Direct

Its an ignition amplifying system that appears to actually do something instead of just creating an electrical fire..

they have the direct plug and play for the 3s-ge engine, would that plug into a 3sgte engine?

Interesting. I don't really understand the difference between their three products. Perhaps Crewchief could chime in here also?

[jcbass7]

ok so reading my magazine i ran across this

Okada Plasma Direct

Its an ignition amplifying system that appears to actually do something instead of just creating an electrical fire..

they have the direct plug and play for the 3s-ge engine, would that plug into a 3sgte engine?

Interesting. I don't really understand the difference between their three products. Perhaps Crewchief could chime in here also?

Different applications maybe? as in some are plug and play and some are not etc.

[FreddyTheOthaMea...]

I saw a article in DSport where they dyno'd a car with that same system (I think it was a a WRX they tested it on) and it yielded a 12hp increase (If i recall....) i'll have to goto my batcave (bathroom) and look up my older mags....


EDIT:

http://www.dragsport.com/issue/2007/0707_tech.shtml

STI not WRX....

This post has been edited by FreddyTheOthaMeat: Sep 18, 2007 - 1:03 PM

[jcbass7]

I saw a article in DSport where they dyno'd a car with that same system (I think it was a a 350Z they tested it on) and it yielded a 12hp increase (If i recall....) i'll have to goto my batcave (bathroom) and look up my older mags....

That seems like a pretty fair upgrade wouldn't you agree?

[FreddyTheOthaMea...]

Totally

[jcbass7]

any one else have opinions on this thing? i'm just trying to learn more about it etc. it seems like a decent little upgrade tested as well

EDIT:also stabilized the boost and power curve

"Just as Okada Projects claims, an increase and stabilization of boost pressure was had."
-DSport Mag

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Sep 18, 2007 - 2:43 PM

[jcbass7]

more researhc yeilds:

the direct system will not work for us since we do not have coil over set up. But okada sells a booster set-up that does the same job since we have distributors. AND its about 500 less


PLASMADIRECT / PLASMABOOSTER (TOYOTA)

Automobile
MR2

Year
1991-1995

Eng. Code
3S-GTE

Ignition type
Distributor

Part#
PB1401000S

Price
$249.50


I have no clue what this would get us on a tuned 3S but it got the Scooby 12hp.. 250$ for 12.. I'll take it.. (not saying we will see 12 from this)

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Sep 18, 2007 - 6:00 PM

[Crewchief]

Thanks for the invite.
Ok this is the engineer in me talking and a little of the mechanic.
Sounds a good idea on the surface but there are some basic problems
1) plugs have resistors in them to protect from surges and give consistent spark millions of times.
way over amping a plug will burn out the resistor.
The plug makers only make the plugs to take a certain amount of volts and amps while that is a pretty wide range way over juicing them will burn them out.
So plugs won't last as long.
2) once the resistor goes regulating the heat of the spark is out the window it will fluctuate widely
throwing a powerful spark is a great thing but getting the heat range wrong can cause serious damage including heat scoring on the piston.
3) creating a multiple spark will only work with a multiple electrode plug so this will only be effective with that style of plugs which are not made to fit all cars.
this over sparking will cause more spark erosion on the plugs anode and can eat away at the electrode. Which again will effect the heat range and gap.

Lastly you can get this with out spending $250
Halo spark plugs will give you multiple sparks from you existing ignition system.
It provides a direct path for the fuel air mixture to ignite flame kernel firing 31% faster then standard plugs burning more of the fuel already in the combustion chamber reducing emissions.
A performance shop in the UK JDP performance one of the techs working there did an emissions test before removing his cat another after then again after adding Halo's the test after the Halo's was almost the same as with a cat.
on the Dyno he gained 11 bhp and 9ftlb of torque with Halo's just as a bonus he also went up 2mpg this test was on a 94 prelude with 137,000 miles.
A set of Halos will cost around $60 and last for 3 years with the right heat range for your car.

PLASMA DIRECT (PAT)

A revolution in ignition technology!!
The Plasma Direct is the ignition coil with a high power amplifier built in to it.
The Plasma Directs produce 4 times more spark energy than stock coils and also generate an ultra fast multi spark discharge of 10 sparks up to highest RPM.
The spark amperage is increased 100%, allowing the spark to reach many more molecules and therefore accelerate the ignition and combustion process. This is extremely important in forced induction applications but also improves the performance of normally aspirated engines.

The Plasma Direct will increase horsepower and torque throughout the entire rpm range. This upgrade will also reduce fuel consumption. Even the engines with a legendary smoothness will be further refined with the Plasma Direct upgrade. Our Plasma Directs are OBD II compliant and C.A.R.B. approved.

Installation is easy. Direct bolt-in to the engine, no splicing or cutting into stock wiring, simply replace the stock coils with our Plasma Direct Coils and ready to go!

Plasma Direct is made to a specific application. Please check Application chart to find the correct model for your car.

[domyz]

on a tuned car, this will surely have an effect

This post has been edited by domyz: Sep 20, 2007 - 5:55 PM

[BloodyStupidDave...]

on a tuned car, this will surely have an effect

I don't think Crewchief was disputing the bhp effect of this product but rather commenting on the increased wear and tear on both the engine and the ignition components.

[Crewchief]

I don't think Crewchief was disputing the bhp effect of this product but rather commenting on the increased wear and tear on both the engine and the ignition components.
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Spot on buddy, It will increase BHP and performance but will place a burden on the ignition system, there are also ramifications with having a spark that is far to hot for your engine.
I have been a spark plugs dealer for 6 years an engineer for 12 and a mechanic for 27.
I was a registered denso and Bosch dealer, and am still a NGK dealer and I am one of only 2 Halo distributors on earth.
I can say with complete confidence the Plug manufacturers go to very expensive lengths and liaise with the makers of cars to match heat ranges to engine needs and specs.
I have further refined that for the EU market due to our very high quality (but extortionately over priced fuel $8 per gallon at the pump) You want to match the final spark heat to the fuel, compression and engine performance figures.
A better spark but not necessarily hotter is what you want.
If you increase the amperage and voltage the heat will go up, and the higher performance the engine the cooler the spark you want.
If you use a plugs that is too hot or over heat a plug for a faster spark you can damage the piston or the valves as well as the spark plug.