400whp caladina powered FF 6gc, stock bottom end |
400whp caladina powered FF 6gc, stock bottom end |
Dec 6, 2007 - 4:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
Dec 6, 2007 - 4:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '05 From Charlotte NC Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 6, 2007 - 4:26 PM) [snapback]620279[/snapback] and GUESS what i have to say about THAT..... MUHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! THANKS FOR THE INFO!!! only a few more months.... -------------------- |
Dec 6, 2007 - 4:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Whose car is this?
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Dec 6, 2007 - 4:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 11, '06 From Sefner, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 24 (100%) |
just be sure to put collision insurance on this one hahahahahahhaha
good luck cant wait to see it -------------------- |
Dec 6, 2007 - 5:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '05 From Charlotte NC Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
i just asked the author of that thread (rickyb) who owned it i need to talk to that guy....
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Dec 6, 2007 - 5:27 PM |
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interesting comments by ricky in that thread, jay.
seems like he's finding some new things out about the gen4 3s... sounds like a HELL of a ride. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered |
Dec 6, 2007 - 7:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
wonder if the owner is on here.
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Dec 6, 2007 - 8:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '05 From Charlotte NC Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
i know for a fact that herbalife has a 330 whp caldina (the actual car) he gave me some pointers...and knows where to get aftermarket parts for that motor
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Dec 6, 2007 - 8:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
id still pick a 3rd gen over a 4th.
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Dec 6, 2007 - 8:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '03 From Crestview, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I've never seen a 1 piece manifold/turbine like this. Looks like an awesome setup though.
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Dec 6, 2007 - 8:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 29, '05 From So-Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
EAST, share some info with us on the after market parts for the ST215 engine...my choice is runninng in the middle of the ST205 engine and the ST215...
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Dec 6, 2007 - 9:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 1, '04 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(BLINKYxMUNKEY @ Dec 7, 2007 - 1:03 AM) [snapback]620362[/snapback] I've never seen a 1 piece manifold/turbine like this. Looks like an awesome setup though. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j177/all...ac/IMGP3128.jpg interesting...smooth flow...nice numbers... I'm curiouse though, what are the specs on the head? more specifically, valve diameter and cam specs.... This post has been edited by frosty: Dec 6, 2007 - 9:53 PM -------------------- CLOSED on 25 acres! -shop coming soon.... |
Dec 7, 2007 - 7:45 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '07 From Québec, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I know that the exhaust cam is the same as ST185 and ST205. Here's my guess for the intake cam :
Specs of stock ST185 cams: Ex, max cam lift 8.2 mm, 236°, max lift at 118° BTDC, open 56° BBDC, close 0° In, max cam lift 8.2 mm, 236°, max lift at 110° ATDC, open 8° BTDC, close 48° ABDC Overlap 8° Specs of stock ST205 cams: Ex, max cam lift 8.2 mm, 236°, max lift at 118° BTDC, open 56° BBDC, close 0° In, max cam lift 8.7 mm, 240°, max lift at 113° ATDC, open 7° BTDC, close 53° ABDC Overlap 7° Specs of stock ST215 cams: Ex, max cam lift 8.2 mm, 236°, max lift at 118° BTDC, open 56° BBDC, close 0° In, max cam lift 8.7 mm, 244°, max lift at 113° ATDC, open 7° BTDC This is my guess for the 4th gen cam specs For the valve spec, according to the EPC, 4th gen 3sgte intake valve aren't interchangeable, so they aren't the same as other gen. According to the EPC, the exhaust valves of the 4th gen are the same as the 3rd gen ST205 one. So, find the diameter of the ST205 exhaust valve and you will know the spec of these 4th gen exhaust valves. I own a 4th gen too. If I disassemble the head, I'll take measurement to have the spec of the head. |
Dec 7, 2007 - 10:52 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '05 From Charlotte NC Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE(chacha @ Dec 6, 2007 - 8:13 PM) [snapback]620369[/snapback] EAST, share some info with us on the after market parts for the ST215 engine...my choice is runninng in the middle of the ST205 engine and the ST215... wow pit! this info is pretty useful! though im no gear head, im always trying to learn more. Chacha, sorry, dont have much in the way of aftermarket available here BUT i will try to get a hold of herbalife to find out what after market parts he had on his, im pretty sure he had an AEM fuel rail slightly modified but the caldina he has is in jamaica, and i dont have the list of stuff he has in my mail, will get back to ya on it if i can though -------------------- |
Dec 7, 2007 - 3:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
Oh god, the place where this thing was tuned is seriously less than a mile from my house! I've got to find this beast so I can get a ride in it!
-------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Dec 7, 2007 - 4:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(6strngs @ Dec 7, 2007 - 3:01 PM) [snapback]620646[/snapback] Oh god, the place where this thing was tuned is seriously less than a mile from my house! I've got to find this beast so I can get a ride in it! you should go there an have ricky tune your car. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Dec 7, 2007 - 5:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 7, 2007 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]620692[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Dec 7, 2007 - 3:01 PM) [snapback]620646[/snapback] Oh god, the place where this thing was tuned is seriously less than a mile from my house! I've got to find this beast so I can get a ride in it! you should go there an have ricky tune your car. sounds good to me! maybe he'll give me a special mr2oc.com member discount! (haha, I wish) but seriously, I think I'm gonna give him a PM and see if he could do it. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Dec 7, 2007 - 11:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 29, '05 From So-Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
where is he located and where was the info on the little tuner place, did i miss it? maybe ill go and check him out since he's in cali...if he's done 4th gen swap...maybe he'll consider doing one for me ...
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Dec 8, 2007 - 1:45 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(chacha @ Dec 7, 2007 - 8:44 PM) [snapback]620811[/snapback] where is he located and where was the info on the little tuner place, did i miss it? maybe ill go and check him out since he's in cali...if he's done 4th gen swap...maybe he'll consider doing one for me ... livermore CA is about an hour east of san francisco. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Dec 9, 2007 - 12:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '07 From Québec, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
So, as I can seen, a lot of people want to know what are the aftermarket parts are available for the ST215 3SGTE engine. Here's are some parts that are bolt on :
-Adjustable cam gear (AEM, Fidanza, HKS, OBX, ATS). Any cam gear kit for 3SGTE will fit. -XS Power SSAC ST205 manifold/downpipe used with a ST205 turbo will convert the one-piece ST215 manifold/turbo to a nicely upgradeable ST205 Ct20b turbo kit. You can add to this a t3/t4 adaptor and you will be able to use a t3/t4 turbo (like I did on my ST215 swap) -Pistons, rods, crankshaft are all the same for ST205 and ST215 -The injectors are the same as the ST205 one, so, if there is a 3rd gen fuel system available, it will fit the ST215 too. -The exhaust camshaft is the same as the ST205 one. So an HKS 264/272 exhaust camshaft will bolt on. For the intake, I don't know if the HKS one would fit. Next year, when money will allow it, I'll buy a HKS264/264 camshaft kit and I'll know if the intake camshaft fit or not. -You can remove the top ATA intercooler and add a FMIC as easy as any other 3SGTE. The things that need heavy custom work is the ECU/wiring harness, ignition component (because of coil-on-plug). In my case, I used a Megasquirt II ECU with Ford EDIS wastespark ignition system and everything works nicely. The other aftermarket parts like BOV, wastegate, air intake, boost controller etc, can be fitted easily like on any other 3SGTE engine. So plz, stop saying that the ST215 engine isn't easily modifyable, there are plenty of parts that can be used to give a lil more hp to this unknown beast. Thanks Sam |
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