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post Oct 10, 2008 - 9:37 PM
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I'm just curious but is a camry with a 5S-FE transmission the exact same transmission on a Celica GT? Does the Celica have its gearing towards performance and the Camry towards Economy or are they the same gearings? Any Ideas?
 
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post Oct 11, 2008 - 4:21 AM
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QUOTE (RavenAegis45 @ Oct 10, 2008 - 10:37 PM) *
I'm just curious but is a camry with a 5S-FE transmission the exact same transmission on a Celica GT? Does the Celica have its gearing towards performance and the Camry towards Economy or are they the same gearings? Any Ideas?


I feel that I can answer a few questions regarding automatic transmissions.

The 5S-FE engine mates to an A140E. The ONLY difference that I can see between these two transmissions is that the Camry final drive gear is larger than the final frive gear in the Celica. Therefore, a Camry trans in a Celica will get up to speed a bit faster than the standard celica, but the downside is that it will be reving slightly higher in top gear, and also the speedometer will say you are traveling faster than you actually are.

My car is a good example: i myself have a camry transmision in my celica. at 100kph (60mph) I am reving at 2800 RPM, and the speedometer says I'm doing 108kph.

If I had the standard celica transmission in my celica, it would be reving at 2600 RPM at 100kph.
post Oct 11, 2008 - 10:38 AM
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I See thanks, so then a Celica's tranny would get better mileage then a Camry's? And I think your right my 98 GT does 60mph at about 2600 rpms. thanks for answering my question
post Oct 11, 2008 - 3:40 PM
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I should point out that the reason for the larger final gear in the camry is because of the larger wheels. A celica and a camry driving down the highway at same speed in final gear should actually be at the same RPM. If you stick the celica's wheels onto the camry, the camry will have to rev a little faster than before at top gear. but also the camry will be able to speed up from 0 a fraction faster.

I have only commented about the A140E transmission, which is mated to the 4 cylinder engines in camrys and most celicas.

You can tell the transmission code by looking at the engine plate attached to the firewall.

I am also aware there are A24xE transmissions out there in celicas... but i'm not sure which models have these. They are geared slightly differently again, with different ratios. Anyone have an A241 or A243?
post Oct 11, 2008 - 7:14 PM
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i dont think you'll be finding an A2x series trans in a 5SFE celica

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A245E

4 Speed Tranaxle A245E was based on the A240E used in the 1989 MR2, but was reduced in size and weight

Applications:* 1993-2007 Corolla 1.8L 7A-FE

Number of disc B3 is changed from 6 to 5 in 2005

Gear ratios for this transmission.
1st 2nd 3rd 4th Reverse
3.643:1 2.008:1 1.296:1 0.892:1 2.977:1

Corolla Final Drive Axle
93-96 97-02 03-07
2.821 2.655 2.962

[edit] A246E

Application:

* 1994-1999 Celica ST
* 2003-2007 Matrix (with VVT-i Engine)

Gear ratios(for Maxtrix): 1st - 4.005:1 2nd - 2.208:1 3rd - 1.425:1 4th - 0.982:1 Rev - 3.272:1 Drive axle ratio : 2.962


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post Oct 11, 2008 - 8:25 PM
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Ok, so it seems that no A24x trans was ever mated to a 5SFE engine. I wonder were any of the A24x series transmissions used on S-block engines? I suspect that all the A24x series transmissions were only mated to the 1.8 and 1.6 litre A-block engines... and that the bell housing would not bolt up to a 5S-FE anyway.

I also suspect that the A24x trans is not as strong as the A1x or A5x transmissions....

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