Operation: Boosted Tangerine, BACK UP AND RUNNING!!! Options

[SeverX13]

Ok guys. As many of you know i am going to be turboing my celica towards the end of this month/beginning of march. I have a 1994 celica GT coupe with 98k on it. The compression and leak tests went perfect. i only need to get a new valve cover gasket. I plan on turboing with a t3/t4 (ebay turbo). i know im probly gonna take some sh!t for the turbo but honestly i dont care. its my car and i will do with it what i choose. the numbers will show haha. But ive been talkin to Jim for the past 2 years about my build. The original plan was to drive over to jersey and jim and i would install it. but recently i found a garage and dyno that are very close to me. so i will be using that garage to install my turbo set up with my good friend Cam (Boosted185). I cant thank Jim and Cam enough for helping me out with this. I started off as this kid with no knowledge of cars what so ever and now i have alot more knowledge to where i can start my build. Jim really helped me learn alot and i cant thank him enough. Ive asked so many questions (some more then once ) and Jim put up with it all and helped me out so much. again i cant thank him enough. Jim and Shannons builds were a big inspiration to me. but anyway, thats enough of my thoughts haha. I have been ordering parts. I have the I/C, t3/t4 turbo, SAFCII, boost guage, walbro fuel pump, rx7 injectors,HKS BOV, guage pod, and several parts on the way. I am welding a 10an fitting to the 5sfe oil pan instead of the 3s pan. I will be making the custom DP. I will be running an ACT performance clutch and a full 3" exhaust with no res. I will be replacing the water pump and the timing belt as well. My head gasket is composite so i will be upgrading that to metal. I plan on running around 14psi. I will be posting pics of the parts i have later on in the day. I honestly cant wait for this. Its something ive been wanting to do for so long. Its finally becoming a reality.

~Brent~

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Sep 26, 2009 - 7:02 PM

[NGHTKD]

im right behind ya, 5sfte ftw!!!
i cant wait until the fitting all begins!!!

cal.

[_Jim_]

Best of luck Brent, cant wait for the updates

[Tigawoods]

good luck brent! are you going to be doing this while you are around my area? or at home?

[SeverX13]

good luck brent! are you going to be doing this while you are around my area? or at home?

it will be done at home. i should be movin down in july. we should meet up

[Tigawoods]

for sure. we will def do that photoshoot/cruise thing we where talking about

[NGHTKD]

what size/specs are the turbo???

[presure2]

good luck brent!
hope everything goes well for ya!

[SeverX13]

what size/specs are the turbo???

its a t3/t4 ebay turbo .57 trim externally wastegated

[95st-celica]

good luck brent...looks like you got your $hit together...you ever need a hand im not to far let me know...hope everything goes smoothly....when are you planning on starting?

[SeverX13]

good luck brent...looks like you got your $hit together...you ever need a hand im not to far let me know...hope everything goes smoothly....when are you planning on starting?

end of this month or early march

[hurley97]

Your plan sounds pretty well thought out.

I wouldn't really worry about the ebay turbo as much as people might say. It's only a matter of time until any turbo fails but the question with a cheap ebay turbo is how it's going to do it and what kind of damage will follow. Shannon's has held up pretty well so far and she's putting some serious pressure through it.

What I do think you should reconsider is drilling and tapping the 5S oil pan as opposed to just using a 3S oil pan. Drilling and tapping anything is much more at risk to leak than a stock component that's made to not leak and last a long time. If I had the option on the 7A to just swap oil pans instead of drilling and tapping my upper oil pan I definitely would, you have that option and I think you should take advantage of it. Just my $0.02, like you said, it's your car and you will do with it what you want. I wish you luck either way.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Feb 11, 2009 - 8:39 PM

[SeverX13]

Your plan sounds pretty well thought out.

I wouldn't really worry about the ebay turbo as much as people might say. It's only a matter of time until any turbo fails but the question with a cheap ebay turbo is how it's going to do it and what kind of damage will follow. Shannon's has held up pretty well so far and she's putting some serious pressure through it.

What I do think you should reconsider is drilling and tapping the 5S oil pan as opposed to just using a 3S oil pan. Drilling and tapping anything is much more at risk to leak than a stock component that's made to not leak and last a long time. If I had the option on the 7A to just swap oil pans instead of drilling and tapping my upper oil pan I definitely would, you have that option and I think you should take advantage of it. Just my $0.02, like you said, it's your car and you will do with it what you want. I wish you luck either way.

No im gonna pass on that. ill stick with the 5s pan. the weld will be fine. and theres no strain so the weld wont break or anything. ive seen plenty of turbo setups on other cars that add the 10an fitting on. i mean look at teh mistu guys, the honday guys, and the mazda guys. most of them all just add the fitting and they are fine.

[jcaron9gt4]

Just spend the extra $35 to get an oil pan that has it in already, one less thing to worry about. My buddy tapped his and had problems with it leaking and having to re-tap it...etc, etc. It's just not worth the hassle or the risk. And his was done at a shop, not by himself.

[SeverX13]

Just spend the extra $35 to get an oil pan that has it in already, one less thing to worry about. My buddy tapped his and had problems with it leaking and having to re-tap it...etc, etc. It's just not worth the hassle or the risk. And his was done at a shop, not by himself.

nah im goin 5s pan. im gettin it all done for free so it doesnt matter. my mind is set

[lagos]

Just spend the extra $35 to get an oil pan that has it in already, one less thing to worry about. My buddy tapped his and had problems with it leaking and having to re-tap it...etc, etc. It's just not worth the hassle or the risk. And his was done at a shop, not by himself.

nah im goin 5s pan. im gettin it all done for free so it doesnt matter. my mind is set

Rule 1. Don't cheap out on the small stuff.

[_Jim_]

Seems like I waste of an argument. I can only see using the 3s pan if running a CT based turbo, other wise....I see no point. Every other car that doesn't have an accessible oil pan, welds a 10an to there pan and have been doing so for years with NO problems.

There is nothing wrong with welding in a 10an weld fitting to the stock pan, this is not "cheaping" out. I cant see the point in Buying a 3s pan to add an apter fitting to it, to adapt to a 10an line, when you can just weld a 10an weld fitting directly to the factory 5s pan. Like Brent said....This is how Hondas due it, Fords, Chevys, etc.....and have been doing so for years.

Does buying a 3s pan for 50bucks and buying an adapter fitting for 25 bucks work.....Yes
http://www.berktechnology.com/shop/product...29&P_ID=419

Does buying a 10 or 12an weld fitting, welded to your stock 5s oil pan for $6.00 work just as well....Yes
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15264/10002/-1

This is not "cheaping out"

[pipes]

Seems like I waste of an argument. I can only see using the 3s pan if running a CT based turbo, other wise....I see no point. Every other car that doesn't have an accessible oil pan, welds a 10an to there pan and have been doing so for years with NO problems.

There is nothing wrong with welding in a 10an weld fitting to the stock pan, this is not "cheaping" out. I cant see the point in Buying a 3s pan to add an apter fitting to it, to adapt to a 10an line, when you can just weld a 10an weld fitting directly to the factory 5s pan. Like Brent said....This is how Hondas due it, Fords, Chevys, etc.....and have been doing so for years.

Does buying a 3s pan for 50bucks and buying an adapter fitting for 25 bucks work.....Yes
http://www.berktechnology.com/shop/product...29&P_ID=419

Does buying a 10 or 12an weld fitting, welded to your stock 5s oil pan for $6.00 work just as well....Yes
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15264/10002/-1

This is not "cheaping out"

X2 you guys are kinda pushy on your beliefs imo

[presure2]

yea, i gotta agree with jim on this one, while i "prefer" using the 3s pan, a properly welded fitting onto a 5s pan will work just fine.
and ya cant really argue with "free" now, can ya?
lookin forward to the results, brent!

[jcaron9gt4]

Yes, a properly welded fitting will work fine, key word being properly. IMO, I would rather eliminate the risk by using a factory pan. Either way, goodluck and can't wait to see some progress on this project.