 Toysport 3SGTE rip off, 3rd Gen 3SGTE |
 Oct 14, 2003 - 6:34 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
*Side-note-> I was supposed to get a ST205 3SGTE front clip with E-153 tranny(recieved 5sfe b/c they said it was too hard to install a E-153)
Man..... I got my engine from toysport the other day and when I was looking at it, it did not seem like the 3rd gen 3SGTE. At first it looked good, but I obviously noticed that the intercooler was air-air not water-air, but I could be wrong. (the 3rd gen 3SGTE intercooler has a black plastic cover with small hoses going into it, right?) Plus toysport argues that the 3rd Gen 3SGTE does not have a C20 turbo and it is nonexistant. Well, the engine I got has a CT26 and the intercooler really looked like it was air-air. But....if they gave me a ST185 WRC, I would not mind, but that also has a water-air, and I don't know what that engine looks like. I am pretty sure they gave me a 2nd gen 3SGTE. I am not 100% sure if I am right with this, but if someone can help me, so I can go argue with them this weekend since I also bought the GT4 hood and bumper from them and I am going to go pick that up from them. **The hood would not do any good for me if the intercooler is air-air...right? |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 6:39 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
if the IC is air-air then no the hood wouldnt do anything... Take some pictures and we could help you out more.
edit: you could have gotten a 3rd gen, no problems from another distributer. Never, I mean never deal with toysport unless it is your last option. They will cheat, steal, and lie! This post has been edited by Chrobis: Oct 14, 2003 - 6:41 PM |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:00 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Once again ill back up toysport cuz i like them..and ill be ordering my GT4 spoiler posts from them next week..but im gonna be hardA$$ and say if its not here within a month were gonna have to make it cheaper then the discount youre giving me initially.. :-)
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:04 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '03 From Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, it sounds (to me) like a 185. However, pics would be sweet.
On the other hand, I would take the engine back no matter what it was. You were supposed to get a clip with a certain tranny but they sent you something completely different. I'm sure it will cost the same...  . Anyhow, seems like you got screwed. Call a lawyer if they won't take it back.
This post has been edited by Inferno: Oct 14, 2003 - 7:09 PM |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What would the consequences be if it was kept TMIC?
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:22 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '03 From South Central Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok . ok. Once again. I will have to talk s*** about ToySport. DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM. THEY ARE THE WORST COMPANY OUT THERE. Even if it were your last resort, dont give them a call. Now about the tranny. They should have never sent you the 5sfe tranny. You CLEARLY asked for the E-153 tranny, so that's what they have to send you. They should'nt give a rats a** if it's hard to install or not. U GET WHAT YOU ASKED FOR. All they can do is inform you that it's difficult to install, in which case you would have to make the decision on which tranny you prefer. As for the motor, take a picture of it and post it up and we will be able to tell you what you got. |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah toysport is pretty shady, but they are close by and I can go argue with them to give me a free FMIC( I think they had one custom made) and I will some other stuff...IF not I will have to go there and kick some a$$, especially that fat a$$ who seems to be the owner.
But I did get a good deal for the GT4 stuff...I think. I paid 1900 for the projector lights, the front bumper, and the hood. |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:29 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
that suxs.
--------------------  All I have in this world is my Balls and my Word and I'm not breaking em for no one,- Tony Montana Team 6gc 2005 |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '03 From South Central Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
this is what the st205 3sgte motor should look like
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah thats what I thought it looked like.
Mine had the mesh cover on the intercooler and it had the black cover not the silver one for the front piece. I don't know if the ST185 RC looks like this one, but it probably is similar since it has a water-air intercooler. Well, I gotta figure some things out. |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 7:57 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok this is plan and simple you ordered and paid for one thing and got another one... call a lawyer and slap them with a big a s s lawsuite.....and report them to the right people....
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Oct 14, 2003 - 8:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
haha...Law suit, not yet dude. Gotta see what they will give me, plus there is a real nice guy who would clear things up for me at toysport.
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Oct 14, 2003 - 8:12 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '03 From South Central Los Angeles and Long Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
LOL that FAT A$$ is an A$$hole that guys name is Joel. I F***ING hate that guy. IF they told you that there is NO CT20 turbo they're B.S'ing you. The ST205 comes with a CT20b turbo but to my knowledge it will say TOYOTA on it? (please double check someone) And sphinx is right who gives a F*** if the E153 tranny is hard to put on? ARE they doing the swap for you?? If so thats not a good idea. They will rip you off. They wanted to charge me about $7,000 for the basic 2nd swap (thats including the engine), when i got it done for around $5,000 with my own customizing. The e153 tranny should just bolt right up and if thats what you ordered AND PAID for, then you should get that. HONESTLY i would stay away from ToySport. I think Natalie the real reason why you like them is b/c you PERSONALLY never delt with them, YOUR DAD did. HE called and talk SH*T and got all the missing parts. (well thats how you made it seem to me) If you can let me know when you are going back there cuz i have to pick up some pieces for the GT4 bumper that i've been waiting for, since JUNE. Then we can both chew him out. I'm pretty sure there are some voluteers here too that will join us. haha David |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 8:25 PM
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damn dave
 yea Jabberwock why dont you post some pics of the engine? 
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Oct 14, 2003 - 8:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hell yeah, well I am going to call tomorrow, but I am going to try to go this Friday. I actually have my own mechanic who is doing the swap and I am trying to help out too.
The Mario dude is cool though, he was trying to help me out. And I am sure that you are right about the C20b turbo. They didn't tell me that. I saw that on their website to check out some stuff. And for the pieces for the GT4 hood.....he was giving me the hood and bumper this week, and he said I had to wait another week for small pieces of the hood. But it would be cool to meet up and kick A$$hole's A$$. |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 8:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the pics on the engine will have to wait.
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Oct 14, 2003 - 8:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 6, '03 From Pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Ahhhh Toysport, What a bunch of shady bastards...
My ordeal with them started 2 and a half years ago. My engine blew in my celica and I thought that was the perfect reason to swap for a 3sgte. I came across Toysport and thought they were a reputable company so I gave them a call. I spoke to Joel and he told me my options and I said I d email him if I decided to go for it. Well needless to say I opted to go for it but I wanted them to get me everything I needed for the swap plus I was converting to a manual so I needed all the associated parts. Joel told me he could have it ready in 2 weeks for 5 grand. I paid him half up front and the rest on completion. Well completion never came. A month went by and it was excuse after excuse. 4 months go by and still no engine, I told him he needed to do something or give me my money back, he assured me it would be done in a matter of days. Well after 6 months I told him to give me my money back but was told they couldnt do that because it was a special order and they would have to charge a restocking fee. So they kept 2000 dollars I still had no engine, I drove a rental for 6 months, Had to buy a stock engine, pay a ton to have it put in because they ripped everything out to make room for the 3sgte and 8 months later my car was on the road. So I would look elsewhere for my engines if I were you. |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 9:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
if this is the black mesh u are talking about then it is a st185. They have the tmic with the mesh like this. ID RAISE HELL!
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Oct 14, 2003 - 9:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
damn the raped you good... i hope you got a lawyer and got your money back.... cause the restocking stuff is B S ... cause you never got what you paid for and sent it back... the trully stole your money....i say get a lawyer and sue them you can get your money back and the money you paid for the rental and to get your car fixed.... -------------------- |
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Oct 14, 2003 - 9:57 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '03 From Maine Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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