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post May 14, 2009 - 1:02 AM
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I've seen a few post with some details for this swap, but not specific enough to give me a direct answer.

I know a few have successfully done this swap and now its my turn to ask for help.

I have a 98 Manual GT and wanted to know if there are any parts or anything I need to look out for when doing this swap.

I will be picking up this Beams next Monday. The harness, ecu, air flow meter, header, shifter, fuel pump, axles, and tranny are included in this set.

Does the harness need to be rewired to work or is it just plug and play?

Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks
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post May 14, 2009 - 1:59 AM
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i believe you need motor ecu speedo tranny and axle's and prob some more items but yeah. why not just go with the 3sgte?


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post May 14, 2009 - 6:54 AM
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got the speedo. Price and convenience was a playing factor in choosing the beams. I saved on shipping because it was a local sale. Beams setup allows me to use the exisitng axle and tranny where as the 3sgte i would have to get a stronger tranny and axle. I like the red top look. The beams gives enough power for now.
post May 14, 2009 - 10:43 AM
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s that was the surpise you were talkin bout


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post May 14, 2009 - 10:49 AM
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QUOTE (Akirad1 @ May 14, 2009 - 4:43 PM) *
s that was the surpise you were talkin bout



Yep - picking it up Monday -
post May 14, 2009 - 11:39 AM
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dam from jhot? i wanted to pick it up next month lol

it should be fun, i too want to go the n/a route this time
post May 14, 2009 - 11:51 AM
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Talk to Dr. Tweak, he can guide you in all of your electrical needs.

http://www.phoenixtuning.com


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post May 15, 2009 - 2:00 AM
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3rd/4th gen 3sge tranny have a higher final drive but they are all s54 transmissions.

Anybody know the top speed for 2.2 ltr gt celica vs a 3rd/4th gen 3sge.

Im glad you going with beams swap. its a rare engine and i have that engine in mind when i come to do my swap. you been researching that engine from http://www.beams-redtop.com/redparts.htm

you find any headers for it. beams wasn't given that much aftermarket support like it should have...

you would need custom a/c lines and power steering i think??

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post May 15, 2009 - 5:31 PM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 15, 2009 - 8:00 AM) *
3rd/4th gen 3sge tranny have a higher final drive but they are all s54 transmissions.

Anybody know the top speed for 2.2 ltr gt celica vs a 3rd/4th gen 3sge.

Im glad you going with beams swap. its a rare engine and i have that engine in mind when i come to do my swap. you been researching that engine from http://www.beams-redtop.com/redparts.htm

you find any headers for it. beams wasn't given that much aftermarket support like it should have...

you would need custom a/c lines and power steering i think??



Thank you so much for that website info. Its gonna help alot.
post May 15, 2009 - 6:47 PM
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You can't order any replacement parts for it if your in the states though right ?? Cause those numbers don't come up on 1sttoyota or toyotaworld.


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post May 15, 2009 - 7:06 PM
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wow, cool to see that beams is going to something good...

that website will link you to a forum, if i recall, there is a guy that can get the parts from new zealand. I want to do this mod for a while. but no money,

talk to outsider, he did the swap. dont know if he still has the car....


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post May 15, 2009 - 10:01 PM
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yup no problem 2bcelica. Hmm not sure Remy, about the whole ordering factory parts for the engine works all in those beams forums.

yes outsider did the swap a few years ago. Also check this out http://www.southerncarcustoms.com/GS_Projects.htm
there is a guy who did beams swap and also that white celica that did the 3sgte swap he looks familiar from pics here on 6gc. who is that guy. and also dr tweak did a swap on a 92 gt celica with beams in it. So that makes it 2 beams in the u.s. for sure. could be some more we don't know about???

check out maikl profile. he has some really nice headers. but it doesnt list what kind they are. he what got me inspired to considering the beams engine.

http://www.6gc.net/members/maikl


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post May 15, 2009 - 10:59 PM
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there is a guy that can get the parts from new zealand.


lol good ol' New zealand biggrin.gif


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post May 18, 2009 - 9:08 PM
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Just got the beams today. Looks great and in very good condition. Pics are a bit dark. Will be working on it soon and will be in touch with Dr. Tweak for the harness conversion. Can't wait to get everything completed.





post May 18, 2009 - 9:34 PM
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Congrats..... wink.gif

The header is a two piece unit, make sure you got both parts.
Did you get the cat that bolts on the end of the header?
Do you have the gauges? You will need the tach.

I still have the car. It is still running like a top.
I have never had any trouble what so ever.

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post May 18, 2009 - 9:40 PM
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QUOTE (Outsider @ May 19, 2009 - 3:34 AM) *
Congrats..... wink.gif

The header is a two piece unit, make sure you got both parts.
Did you get the cat that bolts on the end of the header?
Do you have the gauges? You will need the tach.

I still have the car. It is still running like a top.
I have never had any trouble what so ever.


Yeah I got the bottom part of the header and the tach too. Did Tweak do ur harness also, or did u do it yourself? Any thing I should look out for when attempting this? Thanks
post May 18, 2009 - 9:50 PM
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you lucky sob. I envy you. But im glad we have another member doing a beams swap. since everyone always goes for turbo setup or 3sgte.!! cant wait till you get it done. I might even have to drive down to texas someday to check it out. CONGRATS!!!


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post May 18, 2009 - 10:40 PM
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I did my harness (past avionics tech experience).
It did throw me for a loop though. After everything was installed, It would not start. I traced it back to a non-existant but required jumper under the fuse box in the engine bay. It was something I missed when doing my wiring. If I remember corectly, I only had to cut about 4 or 5 wires and lengthen them. Mechanically, parts will bolt into place.


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post May 19, 2009 - 1:21 AM
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yo outsider. you have a vid of your beams swap in action. you still have kmh gauge or mph gauge conversion.

Do you have lsd on your car??? how many miles does your engine have


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post May 19, 2009 - 2:11 PM
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congrates good luck with the install, welcome to the 3sge family thumbsup.gif


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