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post Nov 24, 2009 - 3:43 PM
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ok so it was running fine yesterday and this morning i go and start my car and nothing. turned the key and no sound, no crank.....so was running late to work so i just jumped into my mom's minivan, haven't had time to look at it. I know i have to check fuses and coil...then check my ignition kill for my alarm. Anything else i need to check?

Oh...and seems like everytime i pump a full tank of gas the car starts to sputter like not getting enough air...any ideas of what might cause this?

My car is a 3sgte swap stock everything w/walbro 255lph

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post Nov 26, 2009 - 12:19 PM
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ok so i figured it out but still has a problem....i check my fuse box on driver side kick panel and my "ST"(i think its stands for starter) fuse is blown...its a 7.5 amp fuse....replaced it and it blows again. Check wiring on the starter and every thing looks good also have ground wired up to the starter bolt to chassis...replace fuse again and it blows again. WTF!!!....replaced it with a 10 amp fuse and that blows too...i ran out of solutions...i need your suggestions.
post Nov 28, 2009 - 12:00 PM
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post Nov 28, 2009 - 12:34 PM
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a short somewhere between the ignition and the starter in the small wire (solenoid wire) or a short in the solenoid itself.


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post Nov 28, 2009 - 2:03 PM
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QUOTE (Bitter @ Nov 28, 2009 - 12:34 PM) *
a short somewhere between the ignition and the starter in the small wire (solenoid wire) or a short in the solenoid itself.


where is the solenoid located?

EDIT: How does it look like?

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post Nov 28, 2009 - 2:37 PM
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QUOTE (team_omega @ Nov 28, 2009 - 11:03 AM) *
QUOTE (Bitter @ Nov 28, 2009 - 12:34 PM) *
a short somewhere between the ignition and the starter in the small wire (solenoid wire) or a short in the solenoid itself.


where is the solenoid located?

EDIT: How does it look like?


The solenoid is the part of the starter assembly that has all the wires going to it.


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Sweet Jesus.


You rang?


Sorry, wrong number. :laugh:
post Nov 28, 2009 - 4:06 PM
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QUOTE (dabazied @ Nov 28, 2009 - 2:37 PM) *
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QUOTE (Bitter @ Nov 28, 2009 - 12:34 PM) *
a short somewhere between the ignition and the starter in the small wire (solenoid wire) or a short in the solenoid itself.


where is the solenoid located?

EDIT: How does it look like?


The solenoid is the part of the starter assembly that has all the wires going to it.


k thanks...i will check that when i get home later today
post Nov 29, 2009 - 2:51 PM
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ok so i put in a 20amp fuse and it started up fine...weird...anything weird you guys see here?
post Nov 29, 2009 - 2:55 PM
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yea, 20 amp is WAY beyond what the circuit is rated for, you're just begging to start a fire somewhere. you never diagnosed why its blowing fuses.


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post Nov 30, 2009 - 10:17 AM
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also check the alternator constant power. that might be grounding out somewhere.

but try disconnecting both the constant power and the ground source on the starter and see if the fuse blows again. that will tell you its in the wiring somewhere. if it does not blow then the starter itself might be haing a internal issue


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post Dec 1, 2009 - 2:55 AM
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Yeah, and take that 20 fuse out, wayyyy too high bro. But if you plan on keeping it in there, I suggest you buy a cpl fire extinguishers off me. Comes in red or blue, also with mounting brackets for quick access/styling. $15+shipping. You will need a couple of em if you keep that 20 in there.


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Sweet Jesus.


You rang?


Sorry, wrong number. :laugh:
post Dec 2, 2009 - 5:29 AM
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Replace starter. if a wire was shorting out it would keep blowing the fuses.
post Dec 2, 2009 - 12:03 PM
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ok will check on starter tonite...haven't drove the car since last week been so busy working a 11hrs jobs...hopefully its just the starter because drtweak did my harness and i know he does great quality work.
post Dec 4, 2009 - 6:30 PM
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ok so starter is fine, took it to o'rielly to have them test it......i tested with the starter relay unplugged and still blows.tested with new fuse, turn it all the way without pressing clutch pedal and it didn't blow but as soon as i press on the clutch pedal it blows...so i think its the clutch start switch...anyone knows how I would test the clutch start switch? one of my buddies said that a bad clutch start switch might cause it to keep blowing too because over the years it wears down or something like that..he went into details too but forgot what he said...any suggestions?

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post Dec 18, 2009 - 10:06 AM
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ok so i took it to the shop and after two weeks, the guy said that on the engine harness, the starter relay is connected directly to the fuel pump relay thats why my fuse keeps blowing because it's drawing too much current for both when i try to crank it...he said it's not suppose to be like that. is the guy right about it or wrong?

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