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post Jun 5, 2010 - 11:17 AM
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So when I first bought this car, it had a really bad erratic idle, that would drop down to 0 and bounce right back up in a matter of a second, and keep doing this. It would flicker, and then stall. It's not fuel related. It'll actually stall when I'm driving and then not start back up. I replaced the ignition coil and all was fine. Now, three months later, it's doing this again >:( What do you guys think? It's throwing a 12, 13, and 41 codes. Could these all be related to the 41 (TPS?)


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post Jun 5, 2010 - 11:35 AM
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distributor.


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post Jun 5, 2010 - 11:46 AM
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Do you think so? I figured 12 and 13 were leaning towards that, and 41 is obvious, so dizzy and tps?


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post Jun 6, 2010 - 10:03 AM
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Ok, so normally when I start my car it revs to ~ 1500 rpm and then drops to normal idle of about 750 on the first turn. Starting last week though it's been starting weakly at about 750. I had the fuel filter, cap, and rotor replaced yesterday but when I tried starting the car this morning it turned but didn't catch...just died. Upon turning the key and pressing the gas it fired right up like normal.

So my question is...do I need to replace the distributor?


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post Jun 6, 2010 - 10:08 AM
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pull a spark plug, attached to a wire, ground it on the valve cover, disconnect the igniter, have a friend crank the engine, and check for spark. Blue= good spark, yellow= not so good, none= broken.


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post Jun 6, 2010 - 4:17 PM
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u wont get a spark with the ignitor unplugged


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post Jun 6, 2010 - 8:45 PM
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oops, didn't mean to put that, was thinking about something else. Leave igniter connected. just bump it though, don't start it


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post Jun 7, 2010 - 9:21 AM
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clean your throttle body throughly with TB or CARB cleaner, and try again

QUOTE (Keiri @ Jun 6, 2010 - 10:03 AM) *
Ok, so normally when I start my car it revs to ~ 1500 rpm and then drops to normal idle of about 750 on the first turn. Starting last week though it's been starting weakly at about 750. I had the fuel filter, cap, and rotor replaced yesterday but when I tried starting the car this morning it turned but didn't catch...just died. Upon turning the key and pressing the gas it fired right up like normal.

So my question is...do I need to replace the distributor?


pull your EFI fuse for ~ 10 min, if that doesn't correct your problem, replace the dizzy && adjust your TPS.

QUOTE (SleekCelica @ Jun 5, 2010 - 11:17 AM) *
So when I first bought this car, it had a really bad erratic idle, that would drop down to 0 and bounce right back up in a matter of a second, and keep doing this. It would flicker, and then stall. It's not fuel related. It'll actually stall when I'm driving and then not start back up. I replaced the ignition coil and all was fine. Now, three months later, it's doing this again >:( What do you guys think? It's throwing a 12, 13, and 41 codes. Could these all be related to the 41 (TPS?)


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jun 7, 2010 - 12:01 PM
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jun 7, 2010 - 10:21 AM) *
clean your throttle body throughly with TB or CARB cleaner, and try again

QUOTE (Keiri @ Jun 6, 2010 - 10:03 AM) *
Ok, so normally when I start my car it revs to ~ 1500 rpm and then drops to normal idle of about 750 on the first turn. Starting last week though it's been starting weakly at about 750. I had the fuel filter, cap, and rotor replaced yesterday but when I tried starting the car this morning it turned but didn't catch...just died. Upon turning the key and pressing the gas it fired right up like normal.

So my question is...do I need to replace the distributor?


pull your EFI fuse for ~ 10 min, if that doesn't correct your problem, replace the dizzy && adjust your TPS.

QUOTE (SleekCelica @ Jun 5, 2010 - 11:17 AM) *
So when I first bought this car, it had a really bad erratic idle, that would drop down to 0 and bounce right back up in a matter of a second, and keep doing this. It would flicker, and then stall. It's not fuel related. It'll actually stall when I'm driving and then not start back up. I replaced the ignition coil and all was fine. Now, three months later, it's doing this again >:( What do you guys think? It's throwing a 12, 13, and 41 codes. Could these all be related to the 41 (TPS?)



Stephen,

I'm guessing the line above my post is directed to me; the throttle body was cleaned last year...should I still do it again?



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post Jun 7, 2010 - 1:25 PM
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keiri, yes the line above it directed at you.

clean the TB, make sure your vac lines are still ok. are you having any drivability problems?


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jun 7, 2010 - 2:35 PM
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jun 7, 2010 - 2:25 PM) *
keiri, yes the line above it directed at you.

clean the TB, make sure your vac lines are still ok. are you having any drivability problems?


No drivability problems; once she starts she's fine. The first 5 minutes or so of driving the car is at a higher RPM until it warms up and then it drives like it's been driven all day.

The only problem I found on the vac lines was the little connector at the rear of the stock intake has a couple really small hairline cracks at the top of the tube radiating out from the middle.


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post Jul 3, 2010 - 2:42 PM
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Reviving an old thread- my car's still doing this. I replaced the ignition coil now. It's no longer throwing the 41 code, but in place of that it's throwing a 14. It's all ignition system now. I have 5 different igniters and they all do the same thing, so I'm thinking it's not that.


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post Jul 3, 2010 - 5:16 PM
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its the distributor, like i said in the first reply after your first post. thumbsup.gif


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post Jul 3, 2010 - 5:46 PM
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Now, to be sure, and I'm not doubting you in the least; just giving you more details. This is an intermittent problem, sometimes it'll drive for a week and be fine, and then the next day it won't start, or it will start and the rpm's will be incredibly unstable. I probably should have told you this in the first place. Is it still the distributor?


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post Jul 3, 2010 - 5:48 PM
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QUOTE (SleekCelica @ Jul 3, 2010 - 6:46 PM) *
Now, to be sure, and I'm not doubting you in the least; just giving you more details. This is an intermittent problem, sometimes it'll drive for a week and be fine, and then the next day it won't start, or it will start and the rpm's will be incredibly unstable. I probably should have told you this in the first place. Is it still the distributor?


yeah same happened to me it was overheating till i replaced it and all was good again
post Jul 3, 2010 - 5:51 PM
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I really hope this is the problem.... will one off a camry 5s work?


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post Jul 3, 2010 - 5:52 PM
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QUOTE (SleekCelica @ Jul 3, 2010 - 6:51 PM) *
I really hope this is the problem.... will one off a camry 5s work?


should i got mines off a rolla
post Jul 3, 2010 - 6:15 PM
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Cool, I'll let you guys know how this works out on monday


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post Jul 21, 2010 - 3:33 PM
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Bought a distributor from checkers auto in oklahoma... It said MR2 distributor, non turbo, so I got it shipped to me. Not only was it not for an mr2, it was from a 6 cyl Mazda "mr3" I'm pretty sure mazda doesn't make a 6 cylinder "mr3"


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post Jul 21, 2010 - 3:42 PM
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QUOTE (SleekCelica @ Jul 21, 2010 - 4:33 PM) *
Bought a distributor from checkers auto in oklahoma... It said MR2 distributor, non turbo, so I got it shipped to me. Not only was it not for an mr2, it was from a 6 cyl Mazda "mr3" I'm pretty sure mazda doesn't make a 6 cylinder "mr3"

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ouch hope u getting ur money back

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