want to get lower spring?any suggestion Options

[zd1818]

hey guys I just bought my 17' rims and I found that it makes my st slightly higher than on my original rims, offset 48 but it doesnt scrub anything under fender...

just wondering if there any prob when I change the springs.. dont want to spend too much on coilover...

This post has been edited by zd1818: Jun 9, 2010 - 3:49 AM

[garin]

the tanabe df210 sprongs have the lowest drop. 2.2 inches in the front - 1.5 inches in the back.

[4-eyed-freek]

if you dont want to spend all that money you could get spring compressors at your local auto parts store, i paid 12$ for mine and i lowered the front an 1 1/2 and the back the same. prity good for 12 bucks.

[hatchy_gt-s]

^ Dont listen to him that is one of the most dangerous and damaging things you can do/get, I mean while your at it why dont you just cut them...
Anyway aftermarket springs are a good way to go as long as you get proper struts that are made for lowering(I think KYB but Im not sure). As for coil overs Ksports makes a good coil over for simple street aspect and are pretty reasonable price.

[playr158]

if you dont want to spend all that money you could get spring compressors at your local auto parts store, i paid 12$ for mine and i lowered the front an 1 1/2 and the back the same. prity good for 12 bucks.

*breath* I'm going to be very nice here and not flame your lack of common sense.

this is the worst and most unintelligent idea, they are a TOOL. they don't lower your car

only replacing the springs with other springs designed to lower or coilovers will work.

now please go outside and take the TOOLS off your car.

[4-eyed-freek]

ok A-im not talking about the tool, and B-do wee need to get so negative here i mean come on, go ahead and spend all the money you would liike, i have had them on my car for almost a year now and havent had a single probleme.

[pittfirefighter]

if you dont want to spend all that money you could get spring compressors at your local auto parts store, i paid 12$ for mine and i lowered the front an 1 1/2 and the back the same. prity good for 12 bucks.

*breath* I'm going to be very nice here and not flame your lack of common sense.

this is the worst and most unintelligent idea, they are a TOOL. they don't lower your car

only replacing the springs with other springs designed to lower or coilovers will work.

now please go outside and take the TOOLS off your car.

x2

we are not trying to be mean or hateful... if that was the case they would not advise you to the issue at hand, they would laugh at you and wait for the thread saying "my spring compressor flew off and caused me to crash"... spring compressors are a tool, they are not made to be kept on your car... they are for installing the shocks...

to the OP - tein springs and eibach (TRD) are both good and MANY MANY people are running them here, you will need to replace your shocks to KYB or such - lowering springs will destroy your stock shocks or any cheap replicas - Tanabe are the lowest as mentioned but you will have to cut/roll your fenders on most 17" rims...
i hate to say this - but ebay coilovers - aka adjustable springs - may be the route for you if you are not looking for any performance advantages

prices:
springs - $200/4
KYB shocks - $200/4
coilovers (good) - $800/4

[garin]

ebay coils tend to blow shocks. i'd get a kyb struts/shocks, with legit lowering sprngs, or legit coilovers.

[jordisonjr]

If its a daily driver and your roads are really rough I'd go with the Tien springs. That's what I have and I love them. Ride quality is much like stock and very comfortable. Although it may not look as low as you want with 17's depending on the tire size.

[nics]

ok A-im not talking about the tool, and B-do wee need to get so negative here i mean come on, go ahead and spend all the money you would liike, i have had them on my car for almost a year now and havent had a single probleme.

got pics of what your were talking about?

[Tom_SS2]

DD - Teins
bit more agressive - Eibach pro kit

[4-eyed-freek]

yup i will post them tomarrow.

[hatchy_gt-s]

ok A-im not talking about the tool, and B-do wee need to get so negative here i mean come on, go ahead and spend all the money you would liike, i have had them on my car for almost a year now and havent had a single probleme.

got pics of what your were talking about?

This is what he is using as a lowering method

sorry for the size but as you can see not a good method seeing as it tightens up the spring causing damage to the spring and shock when driven on due to restriction.

Edit:Oh ya and this is what happens when they fail (and they will)

Spring comp. for lowering FTW!!!

This post has been edited by hatchy_gt-s: Jun 10, 2010 - 1:41 AM

[Tom_SS2]

This is what he is using as a lowering method

is that a guess cos they look like spring compression tools which would interfere with the suspension travel,

he might just be using clamps which really should only be used at shows to lower the car that little bit further while stationary (it usually says it on the box)


This post has been edited by Tom_SS2: Jun 10, 2010 - 7:45 AM

[4-eyed-freek]

yup those are the ones, on the botom picture.

[playr158]

Bottom picture is intended for temporary truck use in most all cases.

they ARE NOT a lowering solution and should not be used to permi lower a car.


CORRECT methods are whats important here, and we're trying to teach you that there is a CORRECT way to do something...and an INCORRECT

while incorrect might be "ok" for the short term or temporarily get you what you want...its not the RIGHT way to do something and it is not the SAFE LONG TERM solution.

[hatchy_gt-s]

This is what he is using as a lowering method

is that a guess cos they look like spring compression tools which would interfere with the suspension travel,

he might just be using clamps which really should only be used at shows to lower the car that little bit further while stationary (it usually says it on the box)

Ok... Still the same method still the same results.


No clamp or press should be on a loaded spring that rebounds and coils almost 10 million times a day!

Ok A-im not talking about the tool, and B-do wee need to get so negative here I mean come on, go ahead and spend all the money you would like, I have had them on my car for almost a year now and havent had a single problem.

Now you have to understand we are trying to tell you thats is the wrong way to do that (aka VERY helpful advice). Im positive you dont know everything about 6GC's more or less cars for that matter(not saying you dont know anything just not everything). Most of us are here to help people to expand the knowledge of not just celicas but cars in general, from simple electrical problems to full engine swaps. Playr is one of the best people to talk to about susp. so take his and others advice to heart we've been around the block we know whats proper and what can damage.

[hatchy_gt-s]

Bottom picture is intended for temporary truck use in most all cases.

they ARE NOT a lowering solution and should not be used to permi lower a car.


CORRECT methods are whats important here, and we're trying to teach you that there is a CORRECT way to do something...and an INCORRECT

while incorrect might be "ok" for the short term or temporarily get you what you want...its not the RIGHT way to do something and it is not the SAFE LONG TERM solution.

Like Fix A Flat!!! lol
and totally wrote the same thing but you posted first

[Madlife]

prices:
springs - $200/4
KYB shocks - $200/4
coilovers (good) - $800/4

Where can you find KYB Struts for $200 for a set? I always thought they were more than that.. my rear ones are shot, but i may do a whole struts \ spring setup while im at it... at 160k im sure its only a matter of time till i kill the front ones..

Im interested in the tein pictures as well.. NY roads suck and i have never been on a car with coilovers that was reasonably comfortable.

[nics]

prices:
springs - $200/4
KYB shocks - $200/4
coilovers (good) - $800/4

Where can you find KYB Struts for $200 for a set? I always thought they were more than that.. my rear ones are shot, but i may do a whole struts \ spring setup while im at it... at 160k im sure its only a matter of time till i kill the front ones..

Im interested in the tein pictures as well.. NY roads suck and i have never been on a car with coilovers that was reasonably comfortable.

ebay. in my location $229 shipped.

edit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...em=390189020343

This post has been edited by nics: Jun 17, 2010 - 2:28 AM