 NO 8TH GEN CELICA!!!! MOTORTREND REPORTS ITS TRUE!, WHAA? |
 Nov 29, 2003 - 2:57 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 14, '03 From Long Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
The Death of the Celica may mark a new era of toaster vehicles as sales of the Celica slow. This is possibly due to the low price of the Z and the Celica's approching cost of the Z. Initially, Celica sales were up almost 230% from the 6G but sales have reportedly deteriorated.
The death of the Honda Prelude may of influenced Toyota's decision to eliminate the Celica for the 8th generation (in U.S. anyway). What will replace it? Most likely the xC...Toyota Caldina. (or the Corolla hatchback) More as more develops... -Nate  (I really really hope this ISN'T true) |
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Nov 29, 2003 - 4:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '02 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
what pisses me off the most is the fact there still will be celica's just not here in the US.
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Nov 29, 2003 - 4:28 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Hopefully its not true.
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Nov 29, 2003 - 4:50 PM
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BS.
Toyota thrives on the Celica. If something gets changed, it'll be a renamed Celica.. kind of like the Integra to RSX type thing. |
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Nov 29, 2003 - 5:01 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
damn that sucks.. but for some strange reason i don't care... seeing as i might not ever get a new celica.. my next care will for sure be a big more powerful care... but yea it will be sad to see the longest selling car in amreica die..
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Nov 29, 2003 - 5:04 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What pisses me off is that 3 months ago I heard this from a Toyota exec and no one believed me. Now a magazine publishes the crap 3 months after I knew it was going to be true and now everyone believes it. Kind of funny how that happens...actually I even got b!tched at by Nate telling me I was wrong and sales are so high and will keep growing that they will never stop producing the Celica anytime soon. Oh well, just glad that in the end, I didn't b!tch back when it happened and now I can just laugh I guess. The only thing I have to say is...I told ya so! 3 months ago!
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Nov 30, 2003 - 3:50 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 14, '03 From Carson to Riverside, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
if it goes down like that, then i think its crap. i always like the style/look of the prelude (i dont know about the specs, but i know its pretty good) and those went down...and now the celica?! whack. oh and how could they possibly hatchback the new corollas???? like a focus or something?! i dunno imo they just wouldnt look right as hatch since the body shape is different.
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Nov 30, 2003 - 3:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Caldina is the Matrix, which will have a 3sgte
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Nov 30, 2003 - 3:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
2005 Toyota Celica: Significant update with freshened styling and mechanical changes.
thats from motortrend.com... lets hope that this no 8th gen. deal isnt true... I find it odd that if the celica is such a loosing proposition, that they would even bother to freshen the current generation, ya know? The sport compact market is flourishing right now, so isn't it dumb for toyota to turn its back on it now? just my 2 cents... motortrend article -------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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Nov 30, 2003 - 5:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
sounds to me like toyota is running out the celica... that car has been on the market for a little over 5 years... if there isnt a 06 prototype 8gc... then id say they will probably let it die... which is a real shame, theyre too family focused, they completely forgot about the enthusiast.
--------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Nov 30, 2003 - 8:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From winter springs, fl Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
they need to bring back the gt-four celica, it would save everything. a competitive price to compete with subaru and mitsubishi, get back in the rally scene and own the world.
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Nov 30, 2003 - 8:27 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's true, they're gonna replace it with that Caldina/Scion thing...not sure, looks like a Matrix. Comes in a GT-FOUR version.
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Nov 30, 2003 - 9:21 PM
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There's no U.S. market for a 2 door AWD turbocharged sports car. That's the big difference maker... the celica is a 2 door sports car... not a 4 door sports sedan. As far as a competitive price goes... gt-4s always were in the 30K range... so that's also very unlikely. As far as the Caldina, they're not gonna bring the 4wd turbo version, at least it's very unlikely cause that's kinda opposite of the Scion purpose. They'll probably bring over the Euro versions called the Corolla T-Sport. It's essentially the low-end Caldina (cause the caldina comes with a bunch of different powerplants) powered by the 1zzfe (corolla motor) and the 2zzge (Celica GTS motor). This thing is not a matrix. Has 5 door and 3 door versions, is a lot smaller and quicker than the matrix. I think these things look pretty damn good, if you like the Euro sports styling and stuff. These will more than not compete against Civic Hatchbacks and VW GTi's. Also, I've heard things about the Scion xC being a larger sedan... however... all is unknown till the due date. check out: http://www.gtstudio.ee/est/projectgallery/corollatsport.htm For Corolla T-Sport picts... tis a nice looking car...IMO |
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Dec 1, 2003 - 12:08 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
similar styling to the GTi! german rip-off... but i like!! 2 thumbs up, toyota may sound like theyre retarted, but they always pull something out
-------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Dec 1, 2003 - 12:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hey i love the look of that corolla t-sport.. wont' mind having one of those parked infront of the house... but has anyone looked at toyotas web site? the added the 2zz-ge to the corolla for next year it's the xrs
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Dec 1, 2003 - 3:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 14, '03 From Long Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I know snadman but I wasn't really bitchin at you. It was more like a small debate. I didn't want you to take it personally mang! You should know that I don't wanna be mean about it. Hey if i'm wrong im wrong. I'm only human. I've been wrong in the past and ill be wrong in the future. Yea you say something an "exec" says but it just seemed unbelievable at the time. Plus, your story seemed very unlikely. You gotta admit, if you REALLY read it. It DID seem like there were big holes in it. You don't need to laugh...I never laughed at you. Bitch? how did I bitch? just a friendly debate about it. You stated your facts, and I stated mine. I don't see any problem with that. People like to see two sides and then see the outcome. Hey as I said before, if I offended you...well.......sorry! LOL
-Nate
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Dec 1, 2003 - 4:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Whatever, I ain't really offended just something that made me laugh inside is all. Pissed me off at first but I'm gladthat my earlier comments didn't turn out to be false and that I was right. It's all good in the hood Nate...props to the actual magazine support of what I just heard verbally. I'm glad that Toyota is shifting it's weight, it needs to do soemthing.
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Dec 1, 2003 - 4:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
even though the weight is shifting from the enthusiast to broad market family grocery getters? bah, i dont mind, their doing great, but it seems like theyre leaving the enthusiast nothing to the imagination... no celica? supra talk dying? everything fuel cell?? leave us SOMETHING to stimulate the toyota enthusiast.... -------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Dec 1, 2003 - 5:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i read something don't know which mag it was in.. i'm looking though all of them right now... but it said that toyota will be the first company to come out with a fuel cell sports car... and that it most likly be the new supra or some version of it...has anyone else heard or read this? -------------------- |
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Dec 1, 2003 - 10:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 14, '03 From Long Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Toyota is making great strides and progres with hybrid technology. The new Prius is awesome. I've heard of that theory of the fuelcell/hydrogen etc...So far the only vehicle that has come forward with this technology is Honda with the Honda Dualnote. A quasi-NSX that rates around 400-500HP with 40-50MPG.
-Nate
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